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Milo Yiannopoulos is Going on Real Time with Bill Maher

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I don't think it's Bill's job to destroy Milo. The dude gets destroyed daily.

Show is just giving an Alt Right crazy a go because Bill is probably curious what the fuck is going on over there.
 

SURGEdude

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Milo simply embarrassed Maher and further proved that the left has no argument to shut him down. Second best thing I've seen this week. First being that Trump press conference. Can't wait to read Milo's book when it's released in June.

That username is so funny. I suspect it's gonna be a return to lurking soon enough for a cretin like you.
 

Breads

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Milo simply embarrassed Maher and further proved that the left has no argument to shut him down. Second best thing I've seen this week. First being that Trump press conference. Can't wait to read Milo's book when it's released in June.

Shut what down? That he is a bigot and people support bigotry? There is no arguement to be made. There is no both sides to this conversation. Just shitty people being shitty.
 
Malcolm Nance going off about Wikileaks being a laundromat for Russian intelligence, they could have hacked the RNC if they wanted to, and that the Russians just decided to join up with Repubs was beautiful at the end.
 

chaos789

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Well Gee thanks....

Trans rights are important they're just less important than literally everything else...

Meanwhile certain states are trying to turn trans folk going to the bathroom into a crime but sure let's fix the world before we fight that.

I guess I should be grateful you put us above animal rights though...

Honest question what compelled you to make public just how low you prioritize trans rights in response to a discussion about a transphobe and his transphobic comments?



I read somewhere on this thread that someone said transgender rights is the greatest issue of our time. And I just disagree with that. I agree all people deserve equal rights and of course that includes transgender people. I just think people having affordable healthcare especially if sick, a clean and sustainable environment and dealing with the growing disparity of income inequality are greater issues of our time. I have a debalitating chronic illness so healthcare or access is something I did not have prior to the ACA due to pre-existing conditions. So for that reason healthcare is a personal issue for me.
 

SURGEdude

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Milo simply embarrassed Maher and further proved that the left has no argument to shut him down. Second best thing I've seen this week. First being that Trump press conference. Can't wait to read Milo's book when it's released in June.

You mean the one where he lied about his electoral college numbers and then dismissed his fuckery because he's a dumb cunt who doesn't know how to use Google?

Dude is like Stalin if Stalin's mom was a rich alcoholic.
 

JP_

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Wouldn't consider myself a supporter of his. I do agree with a number of things he says, but not everything. I think his book would be a good read to try to further understand his point of view.

Milo is just regurgitating the same edgelord contrarianism you'd find on places like 4chan. Milo isn't anything special.
 
Milo simply embarrassed Maher and further proved that the left has no argument to shut him down. Second best thing I've seen this week. First being that Trump press conference. Can't wait to read Milo's book when it's released in June.

There was no judgement made on the left tonight. The only person who failed to shut down Milo was Maher, and Maher had no interest in shutting Milo down. He was only too happy to allow himself to be buttered up.

Maher does not represent the left - he only represents himself. Larry Wilmore did a much better job of representing the left and sticking it to Milo.

Milo is just regurgitating the same edgelord contrarianism you'd find on places like 4chan. Milo isn't anything special.

Combine the 4chan worldview with a narcissistic entertainer and you have Milo.
 

Alucrid

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I read somewhere on this thread that someone said transgender rights is the greatest issue of our time. And I just disagree with that. I agree all people deserve equal rights and of course that includes transgender people. I just think people having affordable healthcare especially if sick, a clean and sustainable environment and dealing with the growing disparity of income inequality are greater issues of our time. I have a debalitating chronic illness so healthcare or access is something I did not have prior to the ACA due to pre-existing conditions. So for that reason healthcare is a personal issue for me.

maybe you need to shore up your reading then because they said "one of the most pressing political issues"
 

chaos789

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Yes, the bolded is true. Which is why it's weird that you came in here to explain how you think trans rights are lower on your priority list for no apparent reason.


I was just sharing an opinion. Probably not the wisest decision but it is late and I am tired.
 
I read somewhere on this thread that someone said transgender rights is the greatest issue of our time. And I just disagree with that. I agree all people deserve equal rights and of course that includes transgender people. I just think people having affordable healthcare especially if sick, a clean and sustainable environment and dealing with the growing disparity of income inequality are greater issues of our time. I have a debalitating chronic illness so healthcare or access is something I did not have prior to the ACA due to pre-existing conditions. So for that reason healthcare is a personal issue for me.

So one person , somewhere in a thread wherein trans issues are important and key, said something and you felt the desire to let us know that not only do you disagree but show us exactly how low you think my community's issues are...

Why?

This is about a transphobic bigot getting his transphobia unchallenged by the host of a talk show and you're in here talking about literally everything but...
 
Milo is just regurgitating the same edgelord contrarianism you'd find on places like 4chan. Milo isn't anything special.

Nothing special but he gains more and more followers everyday. He's now come to aide pewdiepie and pewdiepies following are starting to watch Milo's videos. Go on Milo's Facebook page and you'll see people claiming to be pewpiedie subscribers that appreciate his support and are agreeing with his point of view on the MSM.
 

Got

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Milo simply embarrassed Maher and further proved that the left has no argument to shut him down. Second best thing I've seen this week. First being that Trump press conference. Can't wait to read Milo's book when it's released in June.

lookit this edgy bigot, lol
 

Kthulhu

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I see your point.

I actually saw Wilmore speak right after the Presidential election. And it was a great cathartic release, not only was he killing it on stage for a non-comedic talk, but also was optimistic trying to appease to our sensibilities as most people were during November. I still believe that Larry would be a lot more successful heading The Daily Show with our current shit storm.

Is there a video of Wilmore speaking? It sounds like an interesting watch.
 
It's really difficult to discuss something with someone who won't even accept harassing someone on Twitter is wrong. You can detail why it's wrong but they don't care. It's never wrong to them. Maher and the table could have said anything and Milo would never budge an inch. Berkeley didn't even phase Milo's reputation and probably gained him sympathizers (evident from the whole "first ammendment!" stuff).

What is the solution? Milo is part of a very loud and big group. Simply ignoring him will help him and his audience validate just how spiteful, intolerant, fake, etc the other side is.

I think he's here to stay until governments start hampering down on hate speech and making it known it's not OK.
 
Nothing special but he gains more and more followers everyday. He's now come to aide pewdiepie and pewdiepies following are starting to watch Milo's videos. Go on Milo's Facebook page and you'll see people claiming to be pewpiedie subscribers that appreciate his support and are agreeing with his point of view on the MSM.

Pewdiepie discovered his tween fans got a little older and became /pol/-visiting edgelords. He's just following the money.
 

~Kinggi~

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Nothing special but he gains more and more followers everyday. He's now come to aide pewdiepie and pewdiepies following are starting to watch Milo's videos. Go on Milo's Facebook page and you'll see people claiming to be pewpiedie subscribers that appreciate his support and are agreeing with his point of view on the MSM.

Highly disturbing post. The fact people cant introspectively look at themselves and realize they are the leaders of hatred is scary and sad, and ultimately the wrong side of history that leads to them being, well, dealt with.
 

Breads

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Milo is just regurgitating the same edgelord contrarianism you'd find on places like 4chan. Milo isn't anything special.

This is all he is. He was nothing until he made Breitbart a bastion for GG where everyone else rejected them. Now, under the guise of free speech, he is building a career off of literally being a hate monger who built a support network for other bigots. He is a professional troll and his shield is lol j/k Im a faggot jew. You don't even have to ask him to know what side of an issue he is on. What provokes liberals to the glee of /pol/ - that's his position.

Nothing special but he gains more and more followers everyday. He's now come to aide pewdiepie and pewdiepies following are starting to watch Milo's videos. Go on Milo's Facebook page and you'll see people claiming to be pewpiedie subscribers that appreciate his support and are agreeing with his point of view on the MSM.

Bigot figurehead coming in to defend a popular person shunned for making bigoted jokes? Shocking.
 

JP_

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Nothing special but he gains more and more followers everyday. He's now come to aide pewdiepie and pewdiepies following are starting to watch Milo's videos. Go on Milo's Facebook page and you'll see people claiming to be pewpiedie subscribers that appreciate his support and are agreeing with his point of view on the MSM.

Yeah, there's a lot of young people out there that believe stupid shit. Milo is charismatic and it's a novelty to see 4chan nonsense spoken by a real person rather than posted on an image board. Disappointed, but not surprised to see his troll army grow.
 
Nothing special but he gains more and more followers everyday. He's now come to aide pewdiepie and pewdiepies following are starting to watch Milo's videos. Go on Milo's Facebook page and you'll see people claiming to be pewpiedie subscribers that appreciate his support and are agreeing with his point of view on the MSM.

Big surprise that people who find PewDiePie entertaining would also line Milo
 

SURGEdude

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Nothing special but he gains more and more followers everyday. He's now come to aide pewdiepie and pewdiepies following are starting to watch Milo's videos. Go on Milo's Facebook page and you'll see people claiming to be pewpiedie subscribers that appreciate his support and are agreeing with his point of view on the MSM.

Popularity doesn't equal truth. If it did then some asshole from a reality TV show would be running the country.
 

Spoo

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I don't think it's Bill's job to destroy Milo. The dude gets destroyed daily.

Yes, but part of the power of a person -- if he can be called that -- like Milo is that he acknowledges implicitly that he has absolutely no self-respect. You can call him whatever you like, however you like, and it feeds directly into his bloodstream because the further and further you go down the rabbit hole of actually *voicing* just how disgusted you are by him, the more he believes it to support his own statement: that we should just freely say whatever the fuck comes to our minds, without regard for others. He has created a distasteful image for himself, and, since he has no self-respect, he can take any criticism, especially those that the left are known for, which are decidedly less barbed than his and his followers'.

That's what makes him strong, really. Any actual attempt to discredit him, or call out his behavior for what it is, makes no actual impact on him. So, Maher stands NO chance, but not because he's basically a limp noodle of a would-be leftist who actually *agrees* with a lot of his viewpoints, but because there's actually nothing to be said to change him, or make him see how his own views degrade who he is as a person. He's given up his own humanity in seeking his goal, which is a complete devaluation of what makes us more than animals to begin with. That he is a walking contradiction, as Maher says, is tangential; he builds none of his self-worth on how he identifies as a gay man, or any other social status he has. So calling him names does very little. If anything, his status continues to imbue him with more power; as a contradiction, without critical thinking, it's not detectable for what it is: armor for his sick ideologies.

None of what he is as a contradiction matters to those who can see past it to the content of his character, which is devoid of a passion for humanity. We wonder about the contradictions; how can a person feel this way? The answer is clear: he doesn't value himself at all, he only values his bizarre message, and is willing to throw everything and everyone else under a bus to legitimize it. The way in which he uses his sexuality to claim an above-it-all status is particularly terrifying; I don't believe in God, but evil is very real, and I think it's partially embodied here.

That Maher can actually get along with the guy is deserving of ridicule, but I'd imagine that'd come mostly from people who haven't seen Maher in action before.
 

Kthulhu

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Wouldn't consider myself a supporter of his. I do agree with a number of things he says, but not everything. I think his book would be a good read to try to further understand his point of view.

Read my other posts and you'll figure out his point of view.

He's an attention whore who will say/do anything to get it. Don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth, 'cuz he doesn't mean a word of it.
 

chaos789

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Er why did you even bring up how you don't care as much about trans rights when you just admitted we can focus on more than one thing? No one gives a shit about your personal ranking of social issues


I was not trying to rank them I just made a list of issues in no particular order. I know it might of came across as I was ranking them because I put one in front of the other, but I was not trying to rank them.
 
Yes, but part of the power of a person -- if he can be called that -- like Milo is that he acknowledges implicitly that he has absolutely no self-respect. You can call him whatever you like, however you like, and it feeds directly into his bloodstream because the further and further you go down the rabbit hole of actually *voicing* just how disgusted you are by him, the more he believes it to support his own statement: that we should just freely say whatever the fuck comes to our minds, without regard for others. He has created a distasteful image for himself, and, since he has no self-respect, he can take any criticism, especially those that the left are known for, which are decidedly less barbed than his and his followers'.

That's what makes him strong, really. Any actual attempt to discredit him, or call out his behavior for what it is, makes no actual impact on him. So, Maher stands NO chance, but not because he's basically a limp noodle of a would-be leftist who actually *agrees* with a lot of his viewpoints, but because there's actually nothing to be said to change him, or make him see how his own views degrade who he is as a person. He's given up his own humanity in seeking his goal, which is a complete devaluation of what makes us more than animals to begin with. That he is a walking contradiction, as Maher says, is tangential; he builds none of his self-worth on how he identifies as a gay man, or any other social status he has. So calling him names does very little. If anything, his status continues to imbue him with more power; as a contradiction, without critical thinking, it's not detectable for what it is: armor for his sick ideologies.

None of what he is as a contradiction matters to those who can see past it to the content of his character, which is devoid of a passion for humanity. We wonder about the contradictions; how can a person feel this way? The answer is clear: he doesn't value himself at all, he only values his bizarre message, and is willing to throw everything and everyone else under a bus to legitimize it. The way in which he uses his sexuality to claim an above-it-all status is particularly terrifying; I don't believe in God, but evil is very real, and I think it's partially embodied here.

That Maher can actually get along with the guy is deserving of ridicule, but I'd imagine that'd come mostly from people who haven't seen Maher in action before.

I think if Maher brought him on and was ultra combative that would've served the Alt Right more. The Alt Right wants a war and Maher just treating hum like the attention seeker he is and moving on to other panellist is the correct way to deal with a full time troll.
 

SURGEdude

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I was not trying to rank them I just made a list of issues in no particular order. I know it might of came across as I was ranking them because I put one in front of the other, but I was not trying to rank them.

The thing is that ranking issues is fine. We don't have infinite time or resources and that means prioritizing them is ethically required. The people who only put an issue that affects themselves over larger ones are selfish. Thankfully in many cases we can do multiple things at once. But if we can't, I'd much rather we save humanity from extinction than anything else.
 

Breads

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Don't invite him on your late night talkshow?

There is nothing that obligated Maher to do this in the first place.

Unfortunately the solution to bigotry is a lot more complicated than that. If I ever figure out the solution I will let yall know.

In the mean time yeah fuck them there is no reason to give them a platform. No platforming them does not make their numbers grow nor is it ignoring them. No platforming them simply stops, for one precious moment, the spread of their hateful ways. By putting them on you're just giving them a megaphone to spread that vile shit to your audience. Nothing more... nothing less. There is no meaningful conversation to be had.
 

chaos789

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So one person , somewhere in a thread wherein trans issues are important and key, said something and you felt the desire to let us know that not only do you disagree but show us exactly how low you think my community's issues are...

Why?

This is about a transphobic bigot getting his transphobia unchallenged by the host of a talk show and you're in here talking about literally everything but...


Ok fine. Then perhaps you can tell me, someone not very familiar with Milo. Why do so many flock to him and listen to his bs? Because what I saw tonight on Bill Maher was an opportunist who gets off on getting people worked up.
 
People who thought this wouldn't normalise Milo's hate speech and get new fans, even from this very thread, sure are in for a surprise.

Milo definitely comes off as an idiot but charming and insanely self centered. My wife has never heard of him, when we sat to watch Overtime (she doesn't watch the main show) she thought he was loud, brash, stupid but charming and totally agreed with his thing at the beginning about not allowing trans women into college locker rooms.

I think he's gonna get a lot of fans from his appearance on the show. Way more people in America are anti trans than people on here probably wanna admit, and I think Milo has seized on that as a point to grow his exposure.

Can't wait to read Milo's book when it's released in June.
 

chaos789

Banned
The thing is that ranking issues is fine. We don't have infinite time or resources and that means prioritizing them is ethically required. The people who only put an issue that affects themselves over larger ones are selfish. Thankfully in many cases we can do multiple things at once. But if we can't, I'd much rather we save humanity from extinction than anything else.


I agree with that which is why I feel the environment and climate change are the most important issues of our time.
 
Ok fine. Then perhaps you can tell me, someone not very familiar with Milo. Why do so many flock to him and listen to his bs? Because what I saw tonight on Bill Maher was an opportunist who gets off on getting people worked up.

Because he's a charismatic bigot, and there are a lot of bigots in the world?
 

Toxi

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I think if Maher brought him on and was ultra combative that would've served the Alt Right more. The Alt Right wants a war and Maher just treating hum like the attention seeker he is and moving on to other panellist is the correct way to deal with a full time troll.
You know what would have been more effective? Maher not inviting Milo onto his show and comparing him to Christopher Hitchens in front of a national audience.
 
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