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Minecraft |OT3| Dig Your Way to Fortune! Build Your Way to Glory!
- Thread starter Mengy
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This is the kind of thinking that leads to spawn being a completely laggy, unplayable mess.
In my experience, having loads of mobs in a small pen creates extra lag (collision yay), but regardless, you're basically in the spawn chunk. If you're going to keep making huge farms, move them several hundred blocks out.
There's no requirement to donate, just post your brother's Minecraft name and someone will get around to adding him whenever they can.
TrojanBlade
Member
I just got minecraft on ps3 for my son as he loves minecraft. Is there no online mode for this version? I don't see any games listed. How can he join a server to play with others online?
Puppet Shadow
Member
TrojanBlade
Member
oh wtf ...that sucks....Now I need to find some minecfraft "friends" for him around his age (he is 10)
oh wtf ...that sucks....Now I need to find some minecfraft "friends" for him around his age (he is 10)
do you not have a PC that could run it? there are quite few kid-friendly PC servers out there, and you can get OK framerates on recent integrated graphics (I'd say sandy bridge and up are OK)
-Minsc-
Member
I'm not sure if somebody is going around stealing maps or the server is somehow eating them. Here's how I found my map board this morning.
The middle map was, for some reason, rotated and the lower right is missing. It's possible there's some weird side effect to maps in frames during the server resets.
Otherwise, each of those maps cost 8 paper, 4 iron ingots, 1 redstone dust and my time gathering the resources and venturing out to the coordinates to craft it. Be nice, please don't swipe them.
The middle map was, for some reason, rotated and the lower right is missing. It's possible there's some weird side effect to maps in frames during the server resets.
Otherwise, each of those maps cost 8 paper, 4 iron ingots, 1 redstone dust and my time gathering the resources and venturing out to the coordinates to craft it. Be nice, please don't swipe them.
I realised I had two of the town center map copies stashed in a chest last night so returned them. The copy chest is just missing one for map G right now.
I think some people don't realise how maps work. They see the thing on the wall, R-click it and it pops off and then they panic.
I think some people don't realise how maps work. They see the thing on the wall, R-click it and it pops off and then they panic.
-Minsc-
Member
To get that fancy 3x3 map board I posted above here's what I did. I went with with the default zoom level of 0 (Spawns map is zoom level 1). These maps cover an area of 128x128 blocks. I first created the middle map at the centre of my build. From my centre coordinates, I travel out 128 blocks in each of the north, south, east and west directions and created maps at these points. This gets you the top, bottom, left and right maps. The corner maps are simple, just head 128 blocks in the desired direction from the centre point of one of your outer map then make a map at this point.
Code:
X --128 -- X -- 128 -- X
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128 128 128
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X --128 -- X -- 128 -- X
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128 128 128
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X --128 -- X -- 128 -- X
X = Map centresMore information on maps can be found here:
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Map#Zoom_out
To get the proper map centres of other zoom levels simply replace "128" with the desired map length.
thanks. I was trying to zoom out copies of the spawn map but then they didn't line up properly. I realise what was going wrong now.
I did make a 2048x2048 map (fully zoomed out) which isn't great for detail, but handy to show you where you are if you get lost and give you an indication of which direction to head for spawn or your house.
I did make a 2048x2048 map (fully zoomed out) which isn't great for detail, but handy to show you where you are if you get lost and give you an indication of which direction to head for spawn or your house.
Seems like it's all working towards making survival... well, hard. There's always creative mode so it makes sense that you'd restrict resource farming.
it wont make survival hard, there's nothing hard about farming a set of diamond gear.
it'll just make survival about constant upkeep with no forward momentum in player capability past day 2.
-Minsc-
Member
Could you point me to details?
the tl;dr would be:
pigmen and iron golems will no longer drop iron or gold nuggets unless killed by a player.
villagers will not breed unless traded with, trades will require more than the most recent offer to reset.
what this basically means is that we have to finish all rail lines before bukkit updates to 1.8
we also need a surplus of hoppers just in case.
ill probably stop stocking my store too since ill need to build up a personal emerald supply.
bukkits glacial update pace may end up being a saving grace.
I think the best way to deal with this is to add forms of minimal but scalable automation as part of the game, rather than keep it as through current methods that exploit how mobs spawn and behave. By minimal and scalable I mean that they are like Redstone - simple but can be used to create highly complex and robust mining/farming systems.
Smacking a few iron golems that have been reduced to half a heart isn't the end of the world. Although it does show how pointless it is to mess with things, when there are ways to work around it fairly easily
And the villager breeding rules will only affect your setup? Once you have a farm up and running you should be OK shouldn't you?
And the villager breeding rules will only affect your setup? Once you have a farm up and running you should be OK shouldn't you?
There's a very simple solution to that, have a low drop rate when mobs are killed automatically, and a 'normal' one (affected by enchants) when a player does the deed. (adjust it accordingly when players come up with new farm designs if you have to)
It makes the fully automated farms less effective, but still worthwhile because you don't have to take care of it, and if you want more you have to take care of it yourself.
It makes the fully automated farms less effective, but still worthwhile because you don't have to take care of it, and if you want more you have to take care of it yourself.
-Minsc-
Member
In theory, I have no problems with jeb's proposed changes. In practice, I'm not sure what to think yet. Crispy does make a point of iron and gold farms having to become grinders. With that I guess it's not so bad. At my pigman farm on Neocraft I always used a looting III sword anyway. I suppose it does suck about the villager trading though.
The best people and jeb pleasing solution, just add a new difficulty setting. One that allows survival lite, and another being jebs harder survival.
There's something I'm curious with, I doubt Jeb would actually build in minecraft to the extent many of us do. He's a programmer after all. If he did he'd see why so many dislike his proposed changes. I don't mind doing things the hard way, but I don't want to devote my entire life to a video game.
The best people and jeb pleasing solution, just add a new difficulty setting. One that allows survival lite, and another being jebs harder survival.
There's something I'm curious with, I doubt Jeb would actually build in minecraft to the extent many of us do. He's a programmer after all. If he did he'd see why so many dislike his proposed changes. I don't mind doing things the hard way, but I don't want to devote my entire life to a video game.
Well that's the balancing act all games like Minecraft have to find--engaging and engrossing, without becoming a straight grind (to the point that people stop playing.)
-Minsc-
Member
I do see the appeal of having a mob-farmless server. People would have no choice but to coordinate their efforts. In a sense it would create stronger communities as opposed to people going off on their own. At least, in theory.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
This I do not like at all. My brother spent hours building an Iron farm and then we spent hours automating it complete with pipeline and storage house shaped like a Golem head.
I do not like that change. No I do not.
a mob grinder for mobs that never despawn isnt very healthy for servers.
at the very least andy and everyone who have ever built an iron farm in spawn chunks will have to tear it down.
since they're changing the conditions for trade resets, it will effect all villager setups.
Shaundakahl
Member
Can I get white-listed to play on the server, please?
ExiledMarkzmen
Neo Member
Server down nooooooo. I WASNT READY.... = )
Server checkbox then. Choice.
Added him in
Thanks a lot! It went through alright and I've made you a donator now
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Minsc had the good idea of coming up with a slightly more indepth (and actually visible) rule-set for the server, since we've had such a huge influx of new players and minor inconveniences keep on happening:
- Ask before you build. Get permission when building on or next to another's plot.
- No excessive mob farms at spawn.
- Provide a large enough pen for animals, collision detection adds extra load on the server.
- Respect the maps. Make a copy if you want one.
If you can think of anymore rules you think should be added, go ahead and post them.
Yeah, and a lot of netherack/cobble ones in the nether too...
In the nether though? Who really cares?
-Minsc-
Member
You'd be surprised. The nether on the NeoCraft map actually had some nice sights.
As for rules, how about a limit on duration of unused land claims? Someone plunks down a claim on a prime piece of land then never returns for six months, if ever.
It could go something like this:
- Place a sign with a date stamp on the claimed area. Four weeks from that date, if unused or consists of basic starter structures, the claim is forfeit. Obviously if there's a half finished castle we're not going to tear it down when the builder seemingly disappears. In situations such as this it could be a courtesy for the builder to hand the keys to the project over to another.
CharmingCharlie
Member
Going to need you minecraft username so I can add you to the whitelist.
That Minsc he's a right little Dicktator he is ;-)
- resow any crops you use.
- breed any animals you kill ...... might be better to reword it as "restock any culled animals" that sounds less erm yeahhhhhhhh
- all members must build at least 1 dome in reverence to the great CharmingCharlie.
That is about all I can think of, but then I aint really a "rule" kinda guy I am a free spirit that will not be constrained by your notions of society you NARK
(says the moderator who has to enforce the rules).Raijin_Cain
Member
There was a rollback. Lost hours of work.
Did it again lets hope it doesnt happen again.
It is just unnecessary clutter. All I'm saying is that it is kind of rude to be leaving those up and around the nether like that. It isn't like it is hard to just mine it back up. People are just being lazy.
Minecraft: The Unholy nexus of hoarding and OCD.
-Minsc-
Member
Truth.
It fills the void of all the things we can't control in our lives outside of Minecraft.