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Miyazaki talks future of Dark Souls series, Armored Core and a new IP
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Moon_frogger
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When I hear 'new ip' I get skeptical. Dark souls was a 'new ip' and so was bloodborne. I realize he said 'new direction' but that could easily be 'space souls' with 'stardust' for currency instead of souls, holodisplays instead of bonfires etc. I'd wait for a little more confirmation before assuming anything about this 'new direction'
Don't get me wrong, I remember the laughable debates about how bloodborne was a 'new ip' and totally not a souls game. Hilarious nonsense for sure. Just saying, take this with a grain of salt. Personally I don't want another soils style game any time soon.
Don't get me wrong, I remember the laughable debates about how bloodborne was a 'new ip' and totally not a souls game. Hilarious nonsense for sure. Just saying, take this with a grain of salt. Personally I don't want another soils style game any time soon.
RockTurtle
Member
Haha, can you imagine how tired Miyazaki is of all the Souls questions? He's probably thinking, "seriously people? We have given you 5 souls games in 7 years. Can we please work on something else?" I would be sick of it too. I mean, these questions wouldn't have even happened if it was not for Miyazaki taking a chance, starting a new IP, and revolutionizing the industry with Demons Souls. Let him do something else, and who knows? Maybe he will create another "demons souls" that changes the industry again.
But no, the game industry is perfectly fine with stagnation.
But no, the game industry is perfectly fine with stagnation.
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
Thats all cool but Dark Souls fans get to have three games and Bloodborne fans get only one? Not fair. I need atleast another one at some point. I dont mind if they come back to BB after their new IP.
nailbombxx
Member
He has the right idea. 5 amazing games in a series spanning 7 years is enough, they need to give it a rest. I want to see what else they can do with their talent.
Sword Of Doom
Member
So we're stuck with bad frame pacing and 30fps
Yeah they're just gonna be recycling the same shit if they continue releasing games as frequently as they have been.
Bloodborne and DS3 are some of the best games in the series though.
If that's the level of quality we get from stagnation, then I say: let's stagnate some more!
Sword Of Doom
Member
They can do better. Right now they're just milking that formula. As good as the games are they can do better. I think Bloodborne is an amazing game so don't get me wrong
JumpJeff84
Member
Never played an Armored Core game, they never looked appealing to me.
Having said that, I adore the DS games.
Are there any similarities? What makes AC so great? If I wanted to try one, which one?
Having said that, I adore the DS games.
Are there any similarities? What makes AC so great? If I wanted to try one, which one?
Mustang 00
Member
Armored Core please! There is a severe lack of Mech games in my life. Gundam Extreme VS Force on the Vita can only go so far. Still waiting for the english translation of Gundam Breaker 3. The japanese import is so expensive right now on my local gamestore.
radios shipping overview
Member
Thank you based From
For me I adored the ludicrously deep customization and the ludicrously fast combat (esp. in the later titles). IMO, there is nothing like this right now in current gaming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6IpcH_HqzY
Single player campaign was fun and challenging, but amounted to for the most part a series of one off missions. For me it was always a means to an end of getting the money for parts for split screen and multiplayer. While there was a super steep learning curve in both mastering controls/tactics and in learning how to build competitive mechs, once you got there there was nothing like it. And even before you got there dicking around against friends in split screen was a blast.
The best way to see if you'd enjoy it is to look up the YT let's plays or gameplay videos of the different games in the series. Each one plays rather differently from generation to generation but they all feature very heavy customization.
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
So we're stuck with bad frame pacing and 30fps
Yeah they're just gonna be recycling the same shit if they continue releasing games as frequently as they have been.
If it is like Bloodborne all I know is I will be stuck with the game of this generation.
Romars202129
Member
Bloodborne was awesome, will look forward to more new IP.
Bloodborne 2 would be badass as well.
Bloodborne 2 would be badass as well.
SapphiCine
Member
Armored Core could stand to get some love as a single player game again. Please.
It makes me really sad that Dark Souls it's kinda done for a while...These games got me back loving games again...I understand everyone has faith in them for new projects, but well, i don´t have and i don´t get the "souls fatigue" at all. We have garbage every year that everyone plays but now that we have something "different" we want it to be over. I don´t get it, but well. I'll wait for the next project of From.
I could just as easily say I don't get why people want another Souls when they've been getting them 5 out of the past 7 years. They might be different from other games but they're not different enough within themselves. People say Soulsborne because even though BB was a bit of a departure from Souls, it's still very familiar. Why do you want them stuck making the same game all the time? Why not give them the freedom to make some else that's also good?
Killer Queen
Banned
I feel the same way but I mean, we're getting three huge Dark Souls 3 DLCs so I mean, can't really ask for more than that. We got Dark Souls 1,2 and 3 along with Bloodborne in 5 years. As much as I love these games and they've become pretty important to me. I'd like them to go on and create new awesome shit.
Maybe you are right and maybe i should be happy that now they have the resources to capitalize their recent success.
Anyways they are going to try new things regardles of how i feel so we'll see what they have to offer next.
You make it sound like gamers are holding the developers hostage. You can talk about creative freedom all you want but light bills need to be paid at the studio and a sure thing is a sure thing. There is a willing captive audience and that doesn't happen as often as it should for once niche creators. Creative freedom is a double edged sword in that it can bore that audience who is being bombarded with other options too. So keeping what works in spirit is the best course of action IMO.
I don't know how well off they are, but they seem to do better and better each game. If they're comfortable enough to experiment, go for it. If they need the money, pop out another Souls I guess. I expect they will someday.
Ain't my fault if it came off as holding the devs hostage. People don't want them to stop, even after releasing these 5 out of the past 7 years. People want whatever they do next to have Souls mechanics. People want the sci fi game Miyazaki mentioned wanting to make to be a sci fi Souls.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Man, thinking about it, I really want an Armored Core that has a city hub with all the corporations on different parts of the map, and then you get shipped off to do missions for the corporations...while the city hub has a slice of life of the future in Armored Core...
maaaan. That would be so cool and cozy. Just walking up to the Murakumo Millenium building in the far distance, going past stores selling robot parts among other things...taking a shortcut past a shady alley where they sale black market parts....
maaaan. That would be so cool and cozy. Just walking up to the Murakumo Millenium building in the far distance, going past stores selling robot parts among other things...taking a shortcut past a shady alley where they sale black market parts....
Orniletter
Banned
The opposite is far more likely. Souls blew up because it was on everything (and the PC user base played a huge part in it).
They are now backed by a strong financial sugardaddy (Kadokawa) and their retail partner overseas doubles down on the multiplatform strategy too (like all big-ish Bamco games are on PC too).
Multiplatform is the way to go for them. And don't believe everything Verendus said.
Edit: And yay, no BB2.
Conrad Link
Member
Honestly, I love the Souls games so much I think I could just play them forever.
What they should do is just have other teams working on forever Souls games and then the rest of them can make new shit.
Surely Namco wont want to just sit on the franchise? If nothing else I hope a pile of Souls clones keep coming out (like Lords of the Fallen) so I can at least play them.
What they should do is just have other teams working on forever Souls games and then the rest of them can make new shit.
Surely Namco wont want to just sit on the franchise? If nothing else I hope a pile of Souls clones keep coming out (like Lords of the Fallen) so I can at least play them.
Fbh
Gold Member
To be fair. It could still mean we can get more souls type games.
A sci fi game, for example, in a new world with some new game mechanics but the same core ideas for the gameplay would still be a new IP.
I doubt Rockstar considers Red Dead a Gta Spin-off despite the fact that it's basically GTA: Wild West edition
But anyway. I'm happy to hear confirmation that they will let Dark Sould rest, at least for a while.
Better to move on while your franchise is still good than milk it to death until no one cares about it anymore
A sci fi game, for example, in a new world with some new game mechanics but the same core ideas for the gameplay would still be a new IP.
I doubt Rockstar considers Red Dead a Gta Spin-off despite the fact that it's basically GTA: Wild West edition
But anyway. I'm happy to hear confirmation that they will let Dark Sould rest, at least for a while.
Better to move on while your franchise is still good than milk it to death until no one cares about it anymore
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Excited for the new IP!
Valkerionseven
Member
Armored Core is one of my most beloved series. Honestly though there needs to be a lot of changes in the way they go about making those games. There is complex for game play sake then there is complex to be complex but its not really that complex, just a shit ton of menus and in game world gibberish and confusing graphs, AKA Armored Core 5.
Really gotta find the right balance with AC which I feel like they never have, no matter how much I enjoyed the titles. Especially effing 5. Made it so damn confusing and tedious to play.
Really gotta find the right balance with AC which I feel like they never have, no matter how much I enjoyed the titles. Especially effing 5. Made it so damn confusing and tedious to play.
Spikematic
Member
We dont need From Software to have a Demon's Souls remastered.
This guys can do the job.
Exactly. Sony really needs to fund it, I'm very confident it'd be very profitable.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I want a sequel to Bloodborne so badly, but at the same time, I'm totally ok with a new IP.
I guess it's fine if Bloodborne ends up as a standalone project. It's not like I'm going to get tired of it anytime soon.
I guess it's fine if Bloodborne ends up as a standalone project. It's not like I'm going to get tired of it anytime soon.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Maybe. I think people take "spin-offs" to mean Bloodborne, but it's entirely possible he considers the two properties to be completely separate.
I'm sure he thinks of Bloodborne as completely separate.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yeah, I agree.
So when he says Souls is over, he's probably not even thinking about Bloodborne.
Sorry to the five of you on GAF who hate that game.