Doom: Dark Ages… oofff 5000 Series
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Corporal.Hicks
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There's no need to go as low as medium on 16GB VRAM cards. Ultra texture pool settings already runs great with maxed out PT.well... this doesn't happen if you use the correct settingsthe texture pool settings are specifically there to adjust this.
you'll never even really need to set it above medium as the difference there are already super minimal compared to the max texture settings
Around 14.5-15GB allocation and 13.6 GB real VRAM usage.
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Guardian Monkey
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Doom patch isn't out yet for Nvidia is it? Doing a pack in promo leads me to think this may be a bit premature.
Fess
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Agreed!
PC gaming should have optimized performance modes. Can't be impossible to at least give the most popular setups presets that give you a butter smooth experience. At minimum they could go by Steam hw surveys and choose the most popular setups and optimize perfectly there.
Guardian Monkey
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.. as if the AMD card did?
Well...The game was tailored for consoles which are AMD, so yes somewhat.
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Gp1
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ResilientBanana
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I agree with you. My denial leads me to believe something got in the way, which led me to drivers. But again this is just one game. There could be a plethora of games that lend their performance to nvidia. I personally, may skip this generation. I have no interest in upscaling or frame generation.
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.Schmendrick
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*Yawn*
we all know how this will look with the PT patch....
But good to see that "affordable* cards can get good results here, nonetheless.
we all know how this will look with the PT patch....
But good to see that "affordable* cards can get good results here, nonetheless.
Uh.. TAA?
9070xt beating out the rtx 5080 in an RT mandatory game was not on my bingo card.
Show DLSS/FS4 performance
Who plays with TAA?
kevboard
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There's no need to go as low as medium on 16GB VRAM cards. Ultra texture pool settings already runs great with maxed out PT.
Around 14.5-15GB allocation and 13.6 GB real VRAM usage.
sure, but if you wanna be save you could is all I'm saying. the medium texture settings still look nearly identical. the only difference between them all is how many of the highest detail textures are loaded in at once, so at the lower settings, if you have a slow SSD or something, you could see textures load in late in extreme cases, but overall you'd barely even notice on medium or above
DeepEnigma
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9070XT is a bad ass card. Even more so for the price.
It's doing great relative to Nvidia, but the 9070 XT is only a little faster than the 7900 XTX, which is not one of its best results in an RT title.
lastmessiah
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I've been gaming almost exclusively on Geforce Now (4080 tier) lately. It's a great service that's even better now that 50* series is a wet fart.
Skifi28
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Yes, but the same people still like to parrot that AMD drivers are bad and Nvidia drivers are good.
GHG
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If you're still on a 3070 and deciding what to buy next I don't understand the need for the copium.
MikeM
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Topher
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MikeM
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Needs a Doomguy helmet.
OverHeat
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MFG activated! 5090 go pass 240fps!!!
dgrdsv
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The driver is not a (big) issue. The optimized one adds some 5% in GPU limited scenarios but the end result would still be skewed towards RDNA GPUs.
The game is optimized for console level RT (reflections seem to be worse than what Eternal had for example) and console h/w first. The engine itself is a bit weird (unless they've changed it significantly in this version) as it does a lot of forward rendering with very simple shaders. One would think that this would help GPUs with higher memory bandwidth but somehow it's the opposite here. Who knows what they did this time.
In any case the PC will ultimately be about upcoming PT mode and it's fairly clear what company will win in that. The default console RT mode runs at 60+ fps on a 3060.
The game is optimized for console level RT (reflections seem to be worse than what Eternal had for example) and console h/w first. The engine itself is a bit weird (unless they've changed it significantly in this version) as it does a lot of forward rendering with very simple shaders. One would think that this would help GPUs with higher memory bandwidth but somehow it's the opposite here. Who knows what they did this time.
In any case the PC will ultimately be about upcoming PT mode and it's fairly clear what company will win in that. The default console RT mode runs at 60+ fps on a 3060.
RISC-V CPUs has been used for on chip commands processing since Turing.
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Topher
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Bojji
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roosnam1980
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whats the frame rate on series-s?
DeepEnigma
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Yeah, their driver issues have been well documented the past several months.
ResilientBanana
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GHG
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roosnam1980
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and fps
DeepEnigma
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The XTX is their flagship line with 24GB of RAM.
That is fantastic results for the 9070XT that practically costs half the price still of a 7900XTX,
They will have an 9070XTX as well which will bury it.
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CrustyBritches
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9070XT is an amazing card. Loving it so far.
Lucifers Beard
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I can't fucking stand Nvidia, but the point about the driver still stands. Mortismal even mentioned that an Nvidia early access driver had been provided which made the game perform better. How much better, I don't know, we'll just need to wait and see.
Edit: That's not to discredit the 9070XT, that card is performing very well!
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Bojji
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Or you could just enable FSR4/DLSS4 on quality mode and play it on 600/700$ GPU.
MikeM
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First I have heard of this. The 9070xt is a fully enabled die. Are you saying they taped out a bigger die just for a 9070xtx?
DeepEnigma
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It'll more than likely have more RAM (24GB or more) and more bandwidth.
DeepEnigma
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Black_Stride
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The 9070XT was never meant to be a range topper card.
Think of it as the 5700XT of this generation, not a range topper even if its at the top of AMDs range.
Navi 48 was always said to be the bigger die of RDNA4......and they have clocked it.
Theres almost no chance they are gonna bother taping out a new die for the 9080XT or 9090XT.
They would be effectively R&D'ing a new generation...........so they might as well just R&D a new generation.
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oh is that FSR4? Because FSR3 cannot be compared to DLSS - it looks like shit, even in quality
edit: Nope it is FSR 3.1
So that is not the win you think it is... FSR3 is SHIT
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Sure. My point was just that there is nothing "special" about these results relative to other benchmarks. The 9070 XT is performing where we would expect it to.
MikeM
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Ok. U mad? You sound mad.
FSR4 doesn't work with vulcan yet.
Upscaling is also optional. No one is being forced to use it. If you hate FSR3.1, then Xess remains an option.
manfestival
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How much is Nvidia paying you? I can pay double
diffusionx
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Bad news for Switch 2 port?
Upscaling is not really an option anymore though is it? it is a pure improvement. DLSS quality looks better than native res with older AA techniques. Surely this is known now? It eliminates shimmer and all sorts of issues with traditional AA.
So comparing at base res is pointless. You also cannot compared DLSS to FSR3 since they are not comparably in quality in any way.
Apples should be compared with apples. FSR3 is a rotten apple, it does not matter if i can get it faster. I dont want it at all
FSR4 is up to par with DLSS quality - that is where perfomance should be compared
Is FSR4 performance generally as fast as DLSS now in other games? In that case - good. Nvidia needs competition