Doom: Dark Ages… oofff 5000 Series

9070XT delivering incredible results

Nvidia bootlickers - thats because it doesn't have the latest driver custom made for improvements

.. as if the AMD card did?
 
well... this doesn't happen if you use the correct settings 🤷 the texture pool settings are specifically there to adjust this.
you'll never even really need to set it above medium as the difference there are already super minimal compared to the max texture settings
There's no need to go as low as medium on 16GB VRAM cards. Ultra texture pool settings already runs great with maxed out PT.

Around 14.5-15GB allocation and 13.6 GB real VRAM usage.

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The lack of presets scaling is irritating. It was the same thing for Indiana Jones where they locked PCs out of console settings. This game runs on a Series S, why isn't there a preset close to that for low-end hardware?
Agreed!
PC gaming should have optimized performance modes. Can't be impossible to at least give the most popular setups presets that give you a butter smooth experience. At minimum they could go by Steam hw surveys and choose the most popular setups and optimize perfectly there.
 
9070XT delivering incredible results

Nvidia bootlickers - thats because it doesn't have the latest driver custom made for improvements

.. as if the AMD card did?
.. as if the AMD card did?

Well...The game was tailored for consoles which are AMD, so yes somewhat.
 
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It shouldn't happen at all.

My Asus TUF 9070xt cost $1,059 CAD. Asus TUF 5080 costs $1,959 CAD. In no realm should the 9070xt be anywhere near it.
I agree with you. My denial leads me to believe something got in the way, which led me to drivers. But again this is just one game. There could be a plethora of games that lend their performance to nvidia. I personally, may skip this generation. I have no interest in upscaling or frame generation.
 
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*Yawn*
we all know how this will look with the PT patch....
But good to see that "affordable* cards can get good results here, nonetheless.
 
There's no need to go as low as medium on 16GB VRAM cards. Ultra texture pool settings already runs great with maxed out PT.

Around 14.5-15GB allocation and 13.6 GB real VRAM usage.

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sure, but if you wanna be save you could is all I'm saying. the medium texture settings still look nearly identical. the only difference between them all is how many of the highest detail textures are loaded in at once, so at the lower settings, if you have a slow SSD or something, you could see textures load in late in extreme cases, but overall you'd barely even notice on medium or above
 
9070XT delivering incredible results

Nvidia bootlickers - thats because it doesn't have the latest driver custom made for improvements

.. as if the AMD card did?
It's doing great relative to Nvidia, but the 9070 XT is only a little faster than the 7900 XTX, which is not one of its best results in an RT title.
 
TPU 4k result has 5080 to be faster though. I don't know why you're using a 1440p one to compare with hardware unboxed which is on 4k

That said I'm very satisfied with my 4080 still pretty much on top
 
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I've been gaming almost exclusively on Geforce Now (4080 tier) lately. It's a great service that's even better now that 50* series is a wet fart.
 
9070XT delivering incredible results

Nvidia bootlickers - thats because it doesn't have the latest driver custom made for improvements

.. as if the AMD card did?
Yes, but the same people still like to parrot that AMD drivers are bad and Nvidia drivers are good.
 
I'm wondering if a lot of these driver issues are caused by the new RISC-V AMP processor on the 5000 series that is supposed to take over scheduling via HAGS. Nothing else on Blackwell has such a change over Ada that should cause performance regression in a modern title.
 
The driver is not a (big) issue. The optimized one adds some 5% in GPU limited scenarios but the end result would still be skewed towards RDNA GPUs.

The game is optimized for console level RT (reflections seem to be worse than what Eternal had for example) and console h/w first. The engine itself is a bit weird (unless they've changed it significantly in this version) as it does a lot of forward rendering with very simple shaders. One would think that this would help GPUs with higher memory bandwidth but somehow it's the opposite here. Who knows what they did this time.

In any case the PC will ultimately be about upcoming PT mode and it's fairly clear what company will win in that. The default console RT mode runs at 60+ fps on a 3060.

I'm wondering if a lot of these driver issues are caused by the new RISC-V AMP processor on the 5000 series that is supposed to take over scheduling via HAGS. Nothing else on Blackwell has such a change over Ada that should cause performance regression in a modern title.
RISC-V CPUs has been used for on chip commands processing since Turing.
 
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The lack of presets scaling is irritating. It's the same thing for Indiana Jones where they locked PCs out of console settings. This game runs on a Series S, why isn't there a preset close to that for low-end hardware?
whats the frame rate on series-s?
 
The lack of presets scaling is irritating. It's the same thing for Indiana Jones where they locked PCs out of console settings. This game runs on a Series S, why isn't there a preset close to that for low-end hardware?

You sure you want a Series S setting option? :

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It's doing great relative to Nvidia, but the 9070 XT is only a little faster than the 7900 XTX, which is not one of its best results in an RT title.
The XTX is their flagship line with 24GB of RAM.

That is fantastic results for the 9070XT that practically costs half the price still of a 7900XTX,

They will have an 9070XTX as well which will bury it.
 
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9070XT delivering incredible results

Nvidia bootlickers - thats because it doesn't have the latest driver custom made for improvements

.. as if the AMD card did?
I can't fucking stand Nvidia, but the point about the driver still stands. Mortismal even mentioned that an Nvidia early access driver had been provided which made the game perform better. How much better, I don't know, we'll just need to wait and see.

Edit: That's not to discredit the 9070XT, that card is performing very well!
 
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The XTX is their flagship line with 24GB of RAM.

That is fantastic results for the 9070XT that practically costs half the price still of a 7900XTX,

They will have an 9070XTX as well which will bury it.
First I have heard of this. The 9070xt is a fully enabled die. Are you saying they taped out a bigger die just for a 9070xtx?
 
In this era of (multi) frame generation, they should start including system latency numbers in benchmarks so we can understand how useable those generated high frame rates actually are...
 
9070 cards keep rocking

Best value on the market
The non-XT 9070 is such a good value right now, because it's way closer to its MSRP.

Vendors haven't priced gouged it so much like they have the XTs now.

Both are still great values compared to nVidia's pricing.
 
First I have heard of this. The 9070xt is a fully enabled die. Are you saying they taped out a bigger die just for a 9070xtx?
The XTX is their flagship line with 24GB of RAM.
That is fantastic results for the 9070XT that practically costs half the price still of a 7900XTX,
They will have an 9070XTX as well which will bury it.



The 9070XT was never meant to be a range topper card.
Think of it as the 5700XT of this generation, not a range topper even if its at the top of AMDs range.
Navi 48 was always said to be the bigger die of RDNA4......and they have clocked it.


Theres almost no chance they are gonna bother taping out a new die for the 9080XT or 9090XT.
They would be effectively R&D'ing a new generation...........so they might as well just R&D a new generation.
 
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I heard they have some new 50 series coming with more RAM. These cards are so expensive I just can't fathom making a mistake on a nerfed launch card. It was as obvious as a redesigned Nintendo handheld coming later, only way more critical.
 
The XTX is their flagship line with 24GB of RAM.

That is fantastic results for the 9070XT that practically costs half the price still of a 7900XTX,

They will have an 9070XTX as well which will bury it.
Sure. My point was just that there is nothing "special" about these results relative to other benchmarks. The 9070 XT is performing where we would expect it to.
 
oh is that FSR4? Because FSR3 cannot be compared to DLSS - it looks like shit, even in quality

edit: Nope it is FSR 3.1

So that is not the win you think it is... FSR3 is SHIT
Ok. U mad? You sound mad.

FSR4 doesn't work with vulcan yet.

Upscaling is also optional. No one is being forced to use it. If you hate FSR3.1, then Xess remains an option.
 
Ok. U mad? You sound mad.

FSR4 doesn't work with vulcan yet.

Upscaling is also optional. No one is being forced to use it. If you hate FSR3.1, then Xess remains an option.

Upscaling is not really an option anymore though is it? it is a pure improvement. DLSS quality looks better than native res with older AA techniques. Surely this is known now? It eliminates shimmer and all sorts of issues with traditional AA.

So comparing at base res is pointless. You also cannot compared DLSS to FSR3 since they are not comparably in quality in any way.
Apples should be compared with apples. FSR3 is a rotten apple, it does not matter if i can get it faster. I dont want it at all

FSR4 is up to par with DLSS quality - that is where perfomance should be compared

Is FSR4 performance generally as fast as DLSS now in other games? In that case - good. Nvidia needs competition
 
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