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[Fenix]

It seems to shaping up fine for both sides. As long as Sanchez is not in it I am comfortable.

 

[Link]

Wait Link is a Mets fan and he doesn't like this deal?

You heard me.

 

[Schattenjäger]

You heard me.

They will sign an outfielder

 

[Link]

It's pretty late in the game to get anyone worth a damn that the Mets can afford.

 

[JABEE]

Why Cody Ross?

 

[Fenix]

Mets are in rebuild mode. Short term future should not concern you.

 

[Schattenjäger]

The Mets already did everything they needed to this offseason

 

[Link]

Mets are in rebuild mode. Short term future should not concern you.

Right, and they are thin at catcher and outfield. You can never have too much pitching, but they need to focus on other areas too. Look at how many guys they had to call up this year because we have such shit depth.

 

[Enron]

Link is out his damn mind!

 

[Fenix]

Right, and they are thin at catcher and outfield. You can never have too much pitching, but they need to focus on other areas too. Look at how many guys they had to call up this year because we have such shit depth.

But you're getting catchers.

 

[The Frankman]

I cannot conceive of any trade, real or theoretical, in which Lucas Duda is important enough to hold it back. Not one.

Mets fans think it's a bad deal for them. You can keep making fun of them.

Did Travis D'Arnaud switch positions and I don't know about it?

But you're getting catchers.

I think this sums it up:

Link is out his damn mind!

EDIT:

Though no reports have been confirmed, most all indicate the Mets will be getting top Blue Jays hitting prospect C Travis D’Arnaud, as well as maybe C John Buck, another player, and one of Noah Syndergaard or Aaron Sanchez (who are considered Toronto’s top two pitching prospects). Blue Jays OF Anthony Gose is not likely to be included.

So not Syndergaard AND Sanchez.

 

[cashman]

So who else are the Mets giving up? Ike?

 

[Link]

But you're getting catchers.

We're getting A catcher and giving up another. And no, John Buck doesn't count.

So not Syndergaard AND Sanchez.

Getting worse.

Link is out his damn mind!

I'm a Mets fan. There is no sanity here.

 

[cashman]

We're getting A catcher and giving up another. And no, John Buck doesn't count.

You are getting ONE OF THE BEST catchers available, and he'll be cheap and you get to keep him for six years.

 

[Fenix]

Also, Buck is better than Thole.

 

[Link]

You are getting ONE OF THE BEST catchers available, and he'll be cheap and you get to keep him for six years.

I agree, and that's awesome, but he's not going to be able to do it all himself. I'd feel a lot better if we were keeping Thole and at least getting an outfielder instead of giving one up.

Also, Buck is better than Thole.

Haha, no.

 

[The Frankman]

Haha, no.

...

Is he trolling right now, guys? He can't be serious.

 

[Link]

...

Is he trolling right now, guys? He can't be serious.

You like Buck more than Thole? He was below the Mendoza Line last season. Plus Thole is left-handed, which is much better to complement d'Arnaud.

EDIT - And let's not forget Buck's gonna be 33. Age isn't kind to catchers.

EDIT 2 - Also, screw all you guys.

 

[Kave_Man]

...

Is he trolling right now, guys? He can't be serious.

Yup, straight out trolling.

 

[Fenix]

Yankees inquired about Vernon Wells at the Winter Meetings?

Hahahahahaha

 

[The Frankman]

Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN
In-the-know person unsure if there will be a resolution Saturday night. Indicated cannot commit either way.

A Mets official indicated the same to Puma, saying "there is a lot to this."

I don't understand how this deal can be so big.

 

[talisayNon]

Dickey for Ollie P would be ideal but I know the Mets would get laughed out the dor

 

[Fenix]

Jesus, I just want a resolution.

 

[AgentChris]

I don't understand how this deal can be so big.

Sandy is probably getting that lube for the Jay's GM.

 

[The Frankman]

WFAN’s Ed Coleman said on air that he was told yesterday that this deal may not get finalized until late Sunday.

FUCK.

 

[CygnusXS]

I don't understand how this deal can be so big.

I mean, this is probably how most large trades develop, except this time it leaked way earlier in the process and with way more detail than usual.

 

[Fenix]

I mean, this is probably how most large trades develop, except this time it leaked way earlier in the process and with way more detail than usual.

This is all Riccardi's fault.

 

[clemenx]

I was out the whole day and the trade hasn't happened? The fuck?

 

[Enron]

Anyone else get the feeling this trade is going to fall apart? I do.

 

[RBH]

Anyone else get the feeling this trade is going to fall apart? I do.

It's time for MYSTERY TEAM to swoop in!

 

[Windu]

It's time for MYSTERY TEAM to swoop in!

R.A. Dickey for Paul Maholm and a jar of gray poupon.

 

[Fenix]

Anyone else get the feeling this trade is going to fall apart? I do.

Nah,

"@Joelsherman1: Keep in mind deal not final Physicals must be passed, #Bluejays will only complete with a Dickey 2-yr extension. But most legwork done #Mets"

 

[kingocfs]

The fuck is Toronto thinking?

It's currently a 3-for-4 trade according to Sherman (all Twitter links). Dickey, Thole, and a prospect will go to Toronto for d'Arnaud, Syndergaard, John Buck, and a prospect. Sherman says the two unnamed prospects would not be elite guys. He adds that the framework could change since the Blue Jays will send the Mets money to help cover Buck's salary.

 

[darkside31337]

The fuck is Toronto thinking?

Three year window of relevancy starts now.

 

[rinse82]

Why cant we just pay Edwin Jackson or Shawn Marcum and keep the farm intact?

Cy Young SchMy Young

 

[Enron]

Probably because Shawn Marcum sucks.

 

[Bauer Action Hour]

Why cant we just pay Edwin Jackson or Shawn Marcum and keep the farm intact?

Cy Young SchMy Young

Because Jackson is only a passable 3rd or good 4th starter type. Marcum is the same thing except he comes with injury concerns.

Dickey is of ace quality, has a bargain contract and he's durable, which is important since Morrow and Johnson have injury issues. Having Dickey as a given at the top of the rotation would give them piece of mind.

This move would put TOR in a good position to make the playoffs given the NYY's austerity and old age, BOS's mediocrity and TB's pullback before the new pieces of their reload mature fully.

 

[Fenix]

Yeah, I think most Jays fans are severely underestimating Dickey.

 

[Link]

The fuck is Toronto thinking?

I feel the same way from the Mets' end. I've really soured on this deal. The more details that come out, the less appealing it sounds.

 

[jman2050]

I feel the same way from the Mets' end. I've really soured on this deal. The more details that come out, the less appealing it sounds.

I really don't get what you're thinking.

 

[Enron]

I really don't get what you're thinking.

Maybe he's a REAL big RA Dickey fan.

 

[Link]

I do like Dickey a lot, but I understand that the Mets need to rebuild and his value will never be higher. I just don't like the pieces they are getting back around d'Arnaud. Maybe my expectations were too high.

 

[Enron]

I do like Dickey a lot, but I understand that the Mets need to rebuild and his value will never be higher. I just don't like the pieces they are getting back around d'Arnaud. Maybe my expectations were too high.

He's 38 years old with a very short track record of success. What did you expect?

 

[Syrinx]

This whole saga has been quite a ride.

On one hand, I'd love to get another big arm like Syndergaard or (or and, if some of these rumors are true) Sanchez for the Mets to build around. Young, deep pitching staffs seem to be an absolute must nowadays, and since the Mets are in rebuilding mode, it seems even more critical.

But on the other hand, the Mets are pretty shallow in their farm as far as position players go. If that chart from BA earlier in the thread is accurate, Gavin Cecchini is the highest ranked position player in the farm, and though I admittedly don't know much about him, I'm not sure it's a good thing he's at the top of our farm as far as bats go. So, getting a guy like Gose or d'Arnaud would be big for the Mets to build the team around. The problem comes if they have to trade Davis for one of these guys, which almost seems self-defeating, though catchers of d'Arnaud's quality are pretty rare.

Hopefully it all works out. Excited to see what the Mets will make of this.

 

[Link]

He's 38 years old with a very short track record of success. What did you expect?

Early reports of d'Arnaud and Gose for Dickey and a couple of prospects sounded good to me.

 

[Quixzlizx]

It's not like Gose is a can't miss guy. His bat could easily end up not holding up in the majors. I'm glad Alderson turned him down as a deal centerpiece.

 

[darkside31337]

He's 38 years old with a very short track record of success. What did you expect?

He's been dominant for 3 years now.

 

[jman2050]

You're already getting a premier catching prospect for a 38-year old knuckleballer in a rebuilding season. You could argue that's good enough, but getting even more good prospects for what are essentially worthless pieces (Thole is superfluous and Duda is nothing, though obviously we don't know if it's Duda anymore) makes it a definite win for the Mets.

Of course the final deal could change.

 

[Link]

You're already getting a premier catching prospect for a 38-year old knuckleballer in a rebuilding season. You could argue that's good enough, but getting even more good prospects for what are essentially worthless pieces (Thole is superfluous and Duda is nothing, though obviously we don't know if it's Duda anymore) makes it a definite win for the Mets.

Of course the final deal could change.

I know everyone here thinks I'm crazy, but if the reports are true, the prospects are pitchers. But the thing is, the Mets need position players, not pitchers.

 

[Enron]

He's been dominant for 3 years now.

And he's been in the league since 2001. So yes, its a short track record.