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[methodman]

It was worth watching one night of Leno to see that.


Leno got a little freaked out when the Machine came out. :lol :lol :lol

 

[bean breath]

:lol Great interview.

 

[Corran Horn]

Dude holy shit Anne Hathaway is fucking boring, also people were selling t-shirts of your avatar at the victory parade yesterday for $15

They were selling the better version! Timmy is more of a C than a K

 

[bigosc2k]

They were selling the better version! Timmy is more of a C than a K

Either way a mom was telling her son that she wasn't going to buy it for him because the school was going to kick her out

 

[Jon]

Pat Burrell has a lot of balls to pull that on Leno :lol

 

[talisayNon]

I honestly think what were seeing is Cashman/Hal and the FO trying to not pay Jeter.

They don't have to deal with George anymore, and Hal is more John Henry than he is his dad.

Hopefully a move to third is in order for Jeter.

 

[captmcblack]

If both of you guys really want to do it, I'll contribute for sure (and cross-post on Amazin' Avenue Fanposts).

I'm down.
I can't wait to troll semi-professionally again <3


Also, talisaynon: I hope they really aren't trying to play hardball with either Jeter or Mariano. These guys need to retire as Yankees. Fucking PAY them.

 

[Sanjuro]

Same guys that mock the Red Sox's mentality of needing to resign Ortiz. :lol

 

[talisayNon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zktWcpbtY8U&feature=player_embedded

best WS of all time <3

 

[captmcblack]

Sorry dude, but if you don't see where resigning the GREATEST RELIEVER/CLOSER IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL and the first Yankee player EVER to reach 3,000 hits (who is also the face of the franchise and captain of the current team) - both 5-time World Champions, and both very good to excellent players at their respective positions is probably more important than an easily-replaceable designated hitter who was thought of as dead this time last year, then :lol

 

[Sharp]

Resigning Mo should obviously be a priority because he apparently doesn't age, but why Jeter? It's not like many other teams are going to be eagerly seeking his services. Sure the Yankees need Jeter (I guess?) but Jeter needs the Yankees just as much, considering how much of his income relies on endorsements.

 

[Sanjuro]

Sorry dude, but if you don't see where resigning the GREATEST RELIEVER/CLOSER IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL and the first Yankee player EVER to reach 3,000 hits (who is also the face of the franchise and captain of the current team) - both 5-time World Champions, and both very good to excellent players at their respective positions is probably more important than an easily-replaceable designated hitter who was thought of as dead this time last year, then :lol

There no difference between any of them. You are letting your emotions get in the way of making a rational decision. Who cares about their accomplishments, is Jeter going to get 3,000 hits next season?

 

[talisayNon]

The yankees don't need fucking jeter. I'd love to see these crackpot economists that repeatedly claim the Yankees value goes down without Jeter on the team.

 

[captmcblack]

There no difference between any of them. You are letting your emotions get in the way of making a rational decision. Who cares about their accomplishments, is Jeter going to get 3,000 hits next season?

Derek Jeter has 2,926 hits as of the end of this season.
Unless he actually dies, he'll get 74 hits this upcoming season.
To be the lone Yankee in all of baseball history to reach 3,000 hits would be beyond anything the Yankees have experienced with a player since Babe Ruth was HR king - and the Babe wasn't even exclusively their player.

If this was any other team, and any other player you could simply be all business about it, like if it was Roberto Alomar or something. But this is Derek fucking Jeter. He has to be resigned, and unless he's going to say "I need 3 years and $200 million", you have to sign him. Jeter's value is no longer just about his play (which is still pretty good, but not great and obviously not big-ass contract great)...it's about Jeter's historical value as a Yankee. It's about those 3,000 hits and 5 rings and counting and that captaincy.

Mariano is the same thing, and you can't even suggest that maybe he's starting to decline like Jeter because Mo is still clearly the best in the game at his position.

 

[The Elite]

Dude holy shit Anne Hathaway is fucking boring, also people were selling t-shirts of your avatar at the victory parade yesterday for $15

Hathaway is actually really funny. Interview must be shit.

 

[CajoleJuice]

Hathaway is actually really funny. Interview must be shit.

You're probably mistaking funny for tits. It's a common problem.

 

[Sanjuro]

Derek Jeter has 2,926 hits as of the end of this season.
Unless he actually dies, he'll get 74 hits this upcoming season.
To be the lone Yankee in all of baseball history to reach 3,000 hits would be beyond anything the Yankees have experienced with a player since Babe Ruth was HR king - and the Babe wasn't even exclusively their player.

If this was any other team, and any other player you could simply be all business about it, like if it was Roberto Alomar or something. But this is Derek fucking Jeter. He has to be resigned, and unless he's going to say "I need 3 years and $200 million", you have to sign him. Jeter's value is no longer just about his play (which is still pretty good, but not great and obviously not big-ass contract great)...it's about Jeter's historical value as a Yankee. It's about those 3,000 hits and 5 rings and counting and that captaincy.

Mariano is the same thing, and you can't even suggest that maybe he's starting to decline like Jeter because Mo is still clearly the best in the game at his position.

Who cares? What does that have anything to do about next season?

Obviously you are taking time with your defense, but I'm simply playing Devil's Advocate here.

 

[Sharp]

Dude whatever, point is that no one who's not a Yankees fan thinks Jeter deserves nearly as high a contract as he's likely to demand, which by extension means nobody other than the Yankees is going to give him that kind of contract either. Given those circumstances, with him all but guaranteed to sign with the Yankees at the end of the day, why the fuck should they not play hardball with him?

 

[CajoleJuice]

Jeter just wants to be signed through his age-42 season like A-Rod. OLDEST LEFT SIDE OF THE INFIELD EVER WHAT A MILESTONE

 

[Sanjuro]

Jeter just wants to be signed through his age-42 season like A-Rod. OLDEST LEFT SIDE OF THE INFIELD EVER WHAT A MILESTONE

ESPN - Tonight Derek Jeter sets a record for the oldest MLB player to make cameo in a Will Ferrell movie.

 

[captmcblack]

Who cares? What does that have anything to do about next season?

Obviously you are taking time with your defense, but I'm simply playing Devil's Advocate here.

The Yankees need Derek Jeter to play baseball next season, as he is still a very good player at whatever positions you may ask him to play next season. Derek Jeter will cost a lot of money given all of the things he's done, and what he is very likely about to do...but you have to pay him. Anyone talking about his cost and how Yankees fans perceive it versus the rest of baseball isn't saying anything that I don't agree with. Of COURSE his play doesn't merit epic money. But if you do have to pay him epic money, it's going to be his body of work and value to the Yankees as their all-time hit king that is responsible.

Why shouldn't you spend too much time trying to play hardball with him? Because if you do, he may feel slighted like Andy Pettitte did back in 2003 and go elsewhere for less money just to spite a team who should be happy for his services and his body of work. I don't expect that he'll go somewhere else for all the reasons you and Sharp have mentioned, but until it's impossible for him to do so I can't be comfortable.

 

[Sanjuro]

The Yankees need Derek Jeter to play baseball next season, as(1) he is still a very good player at whatever positions you may ask him to play next season. Derek Jeter will cost a lot of money given all of the things he's done, and what he is very likely about to do...but you have to pay him. Anyone talking about his cost and how Yankees fans perceive it versus the rest of baseball isn't saying anything that I don't agree with. Of COURSE his play doesn't merit epic money. But if you do have to pay him epic money, it's going to be his body of work and value to the (2)Yankees as their all-time hit king that is responsible.

Why shouldn't you spend too much time trying to play hardball with him? Because if you do, he may feel (3)slighted like Andy Pettitte did back in 2003 and go elsewhere for less money just to spite a team who should be happy for his services and his body of work. I don't expect that he'll go somewhere else for all the reasons you and Sharp have mentioned, but until it's (4)impossible for him to do so I can't be comfortable.

1. What!?
2. So?
3. Roids.
4. Deal with it.

 

[The Elite]

Anthapolous is getting my Doytch hard.

He's up to something big. I can feel it.

 

[The Frankman]

Has anyone seen assistant GM Paul DePodesta's Blog? It's pretty awesome. He's been branded as "controversial" for using sabermetrics in many of his baseball decisions...

 

[Jon]

1. What!?
2. So?
3. Roids.
4. Deal with it.

:lol :lol

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Lol Derek jeter isnt any better than Edgar Renteria, and Edgar sucks so much he is retiring.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Lol Derek jeter isnt any better than Edgar Renteria, and Edgar sucks so much he is retiring.

Edgar has twice the number of WS MVPs, so he's obviously twice as good!

 

[CygnusXS]

Edgar has twice the number of WS MVPs, so he's obviously twice as good!

Yeah, but, Edgar ain't getting into no Hall of Fame.

 

[funkmastergeneral]

Yeah, and the Jays have declined his option already.

Can you explain the point of trading for him in the first place?

 

[CajoleJuice]

Can you explain the point of trading for him in the first place?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...rade-for-miguel-olivo-and-decline-his-option/

Olivo is a Type B free agent, which means the Blue Jays are now in line to receive a compensatory draft pick if he declines their offer of arbitration and signs elsewhere. Assuming that happens, they basically just bought a draft pick between the first and second rounds for $500,000 and a PTBNL.

 

[CygnusXS]

Can you explain the point of trading for him in the first place?

Jays turned down Gregg's option. Prob just gonna offer him arb like Downs/Frasor.

e: And they just traded for Miguel Olivo for cash/PTBNL. Guess they'll turn down the option on Molina. FUCK YEA. e2:Oh jesus christ i just realised we already picked up Molina's option. At least we can kick him to AAA now and I never have to see his lazy sonofabitch ass again. Olivo plays through kidney stones!
e3: Actually now I'm more confused because the Jays can buy him out for 500k and maybe get a pick cause he's typeB. Whatevs, figure this out tomorrow.

Miguel Olivo? AA is already making crazy moves; esp. if he just sent cash to COL only to decline Olivo's option and take the pick.

yup!

"jays just declined the option on Olivo making him a free agent. That puts Buck back in the running for a possible deal" - sportsnetberry

.

 

[funkmastergeneral]

So basically the Jays are banking on Olivo turning down arbitration? Could bite them in the ass if he agrees.

 

[talisayNon]

http://video.adultswim.com/carl/car...=vplayer_carl_carls-lock-baseball-sf-vs-texas

posted? :lol

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Sabean this morning: "Panda starts next year in minors if he doesnt get his act together."

Meanwhile, at Buca di Beppo this past Wednesday after the victory parade:

He stopped by after the parade. Naturally, the hefty third baseman had a “Colossal Brownie Sundae” for dessert, which is described thusly “twelve decadent chunks of freshly-baked brownies layered with six scoops of vanilla bean and chocolate gelato, topped with caramel and chocolate sauces then buried in mounds of whipped cream.”

To be fair, he was with his family and there were children involved. And this week, the Giants are allowed to do what they want.

No word on whether that sundae was actually shared with the rest of the family or not.

Yeah, but, Edgar ain't getting into no Hall of Fame.

He also homered off of Cliff Lee with a torn bicep tendon. What's Jeter's excuse in the ALCS?

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Lol Derek jeter isnt any better than Edgar Renteria, and Edgar sucks so much he is retiring.

seriously need to shut it, anyways for Jeter he should get 4 to 5/60 and not a penny or year more. and it's not like it matters 'cause no one else will offer him a contract.
say around year two or three he moves over to third and put a better defensive shortstop there (whoever we hype in the minors) and Centaur can go do whatever it is he does, DH I guess after posada retires. Mo can get two years.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Sabean this morning:

No word on whether that sundae was actually shared with the rest of the family or not.

OMG DO WANT. Fucking diets... how do they work? I don't wanna talk to a nutritionist, ya'll mother fuckers fryin', and getting shit crisp.

 

[Sanjuro]

seriously need to shut it, anyways for Jeter he should get 4 to 5/60 and not a penny or year more. and it's not like it matters 'cause no one else will offer him a contract.
say around year two or three he moves over to third and put a better defensive shortstop there (whoever we hype in the minors) and Centaur can go do whatever it is he does, DH I guess after posada retires. Mo can get two years.

:lol He will be in his 40s with that contract.

 

[CygnusXS]

He also homered off of Cliff Lee with a torn bicep tendon. What's Jeter's excuse in the ALCS?

I don't know, he sucks?

 

[captmcblack]

seriously need to shut it, anyways for Jeter he should get 4 to 5/60 and not a penny or year more. and it's not like it matters 'cause no one else will offer him a contract.
say around year two or three he moves over to third and put a better defensive shortstop there (whoever we hype in the minors) and Centaur can go do whatever it is he does, DH I guess after posada retires. Mo can get two years.

There you go, a smart man.

Jeter gets 3 or 4/$55 to 60M and an option to move into the front office after he retires, or invest in the team or something. Jeter = Yankees. This is Mantle or Dimaggio or Berra for this generation...so you make damn sure you retain him, even if the cost outweighs his ability to play. Some things are just sort of like that. Maybe you put an option in there so you can cut bait if Jeter goes into a big decline and save both sides embarassment - Jeter can ride off into the sunset as a hero with a jillion rings and a lot of money, and the Yankees can say they treated their marquee player right.

Let Mo be like Andy and go year to year until he's ready to retire; let him know he's good every year for $12M.

It looks like they're going to let Montero fight it out with Posada for the job at C, with the loser being primary DH. I'm cool with that. You probably have to keep Cervelli here until someone can replace him though...unless Montero is good enough at C where you could let him catch most of the games and let Posada catch the rest.

A-Rod needs to get the full fix for his hip and get the full rehab. Then, he'll be good at 3B until Posada goes, so he can become DH in a few years.

Go get Cliff Lee.
Go get help in the pen (the pen currently only has Mo, Joba, Robertson and Logan in there for sure...not good stuff).
Go reacquire Matsui, and resign Thames cheaply (so bench is Matsui, Thames, Cervelli, and what...Nunez?)
Go to war.

[EDIT: :lol :lol :lol @ Sanjuro]

 

[Sanjuro]

.....

 

[Jon]

Sanjuro, your collection/strategic use of gifs on GAF is second to none.

 

[Corran Horn]

Here is my videos/pictures of the Giants parade. The parade was fucking hard to see but I went all hipster with my cellphone in the air.

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Pictures

 

[The Frankman]

Sanjuro, your collection/strategic use of gifs on GAF is second to none.

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[Corran Horn]

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[Sanjuro]

 

[Windu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zktWcpbtY8U&feature=player_embedded

best WS of all time <3

that never happened.

 

[Jon]

Fake edit: Awww...Windu with the combo breaker. Oh well.

 

[Corran Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upcV_ZWzsp0
Leno with Brian Wilson interview for those who missed it.




This is sad

Which reminds me, I enjoyed this e-mail from a Cubbies fan named Sal in San Rafael: "Here in World Series-Drought Saloon, it's always bittersweet watching one of the regulars stream out the door in a giddy flurry. First it was Red Sox Guy, then White Sox Guy, and now ... congrats, Giants Guy, we'll miss you. Savor the moment. And Indians Guy, get out your wallet, we need to buy Rangers Guy another shot. It's starting to get depressing in here. Cheers."

 

[eznark]

I blame Joe Morgan

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[Sharp]

I blame Joe Morgan

Isn't he retiring after this year or something? Or was that just wishful thinking on my part?