HarryDemeanor
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I think it's pretty clear why he's changing from B.J. All the suck jokes made themselves.
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MLB 2014-2015 Offseason |OT| Playoff Dreaming
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Frozenprince
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yes they do. sure the owners have more money (a lot of owners have more than the steinbrenners). but in terms of baseball revenue and what not. yankees lead by quite a bit.
Rock And Roll
Member
You could make a case that Marlins ownership is trying to turn the franchise around. With the Stanton mega contract and rumblings of them trying to lock up Yelich, Fernandez and a bunch of other young players, they might be changing their ways to keep a consistent winner in Miami.
I wouldn't believe it myself because Loria is a dick who has treated his franchises like pump and dump schemes but hey, maybe they are happy with their core right now and will try to retain it.
Dominican Power
Member
Can we do an auction draft this year, Enron? And add a 4th OF.
Yeah, it's risky. They gave up on Gose because they have faith in Pompey. I really think Gose got a raw deal in Toronto. Watch him turn into a productive regular with Detroit.
Depth is once again a Toronto concern. When Smoak is going to get significant AB's, and there's basically an offensive void at 2B, and Pillar and Valencia are the primary backups, the Jays are screwed when injuries start happening. Meanwhile Boston has so much offense they don't know who to start.
My cautious optimism is based on a near perfect year of few injuries and youngsters performing up to expectations. Even with serious concerns, I do think they've got a shot at a playoff spot.
Frozenprince
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Frozenprince
Banned
Everything I'v heard is that it's a toss-up between the Yanks and Doyers.
chicagocubsfan
Member
I've heard Yankees and Red Sox. Watch the A's get him lol.
Maybe they'll go after that Alvarez kid.
Frozenprince
Banned
That requires the Wilpon's to spend money.
There is no way in hell we'll ever be big players in IFA/Cubans as long as they are alive.
i wish manfred would force the mets ownership to sell..
Frozenprince
Banned
Selig wouldn't because he didn't want to mess with the fraternity and because the Wilpon's are his buddies. I doubt Manfried does much of anything different.
They're the owners until they absolutely NEED the money or die.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You're talking about something irrelevant. From a payroll standpoint the Dodgers and Yankees have the same virtually unlimited budget.
Frozenprince
Banned
Dodgers can pay more (in net collected not base value) due to California tax laws, IIRC.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Yoan Moncada can start right away Boston. Trade Xander to the Mets for a pitcher.
$30M expected, wonder how long it's for. Kid is getting paid, damn.
hemtae
Member
Suck it Yankees and Yankees west. Although if he turns out to be a bust, I hope Dodger's will still want him.
It's hard enough to get everyone together for a live draft - auctions drafts only work if you can get 100% attendance. Also auction drafts take f o r e v e r. And for a new owner that can be daunting. That's why I avoid them unless doing one in person.
Don't really see the need for a 4th OF position when we have a UTIL position in which you can simply use a 4th OF if you choose. I prefer the UTIL over another OF - it's easier for owners who need more of a particular stat to just plug whoever in there instead of being limited to another OF, of which they are already starting 3.
Hahaha, no. That kid is gonna need a year or so in the minors first.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Wonder what position they'll put him at? Maybe 3rd so they can move Panda to DH once Papi retires?
I'm disappointed the Yankees didn't sign Moncada, but the meltdowns going on at NYYFANS are amazing.
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php/134324-Yoan-Moncada-Thread/page94
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php/134324-Yoan-Moncada-Thread/page94
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Lol I know just trying to get a SS man.
captmcblack
Member
Can't understand why the Yankees wouldn't have gone for this kid.
Even if the kid is a bust, it was just cash. Not draft picks, not traded players, nothing but money. They're going to miss out on *every* Cuban player - Cespedes, Soler, Sano, Abreu, etc - for fear of money?
It just boggles the mind. The Yankees had a huge need for a potentially good to great, young and cost-controlled player at 2B - the kind of player that their middling record and big-ass payroll generally precluded them from getting either in FA (too much cash on the books still) and the draft (not high-enough of a pick, not enough picks, etc)...and they lost to the goddamn Red Sox for less than the crazy bonuses being talked about? I can't even front - I'm legit salty about this.
I expected to punt the next season (and maybe even the one after that)...but to just lay down and die altogether is just disheartening.
[EDIT: It looks like the Yankees missed out on this guy for $3m, roughly...man, if he becomes a good-to-great player, omfg]
Even if the kid is a bust, it was just cash. Not draft picks, not traded players, nothing but money. They're going to miss out on *every* Cuban player - Cespedes, Soler, Sano, Abreu, etc - for fear of money?
It just boggles the mind. The Yankees had a huge need for a potentially good to great, young and cost-controlled player at 2B - the kind of player that their middling record and big-ass payroll generally precluded them from getting either in FA (too much cash on the books still) and the draft (not high-enough of a pick, not enough picks, etc)...and they lost to the goddamn Red Sox for less than the crazy bonuses being talked about? I can't even front - I'm legit salty about this.
I expected to punt the next season (and maybe even the one after that)...but to just lay down and die altogether is just disheartening.
[EDIT: It looks like the Yankees missed out on this guy for $3m, roughly...man, if he becomes a good-to-great player, omfg]
chicagocubsfan
Member
Pretty good article comparing the Cubs to other great Prospect groups: The 92 Braves, 2006 Dbacks, 2011 Royals, 2004 Brewers, and 2007 Rays.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/five-historical-precedents-cubs-loaded-top-100-class/
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/five-historical-precedents-cubs-loaded-top-100-class/
Hard to get a good timeline on all that. Papi is getting old though
Ninja Scooter
Member
He's so young that he might outgrow whatever position he is now. IIRC Keith law thinks he'll end up a corner OF.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Lol so they have like 25 OF's now.
Thinking they will end up trading Craig and Victorino pretty soon.
Ninja Scooter
Member
He's probably a year or two away so they can probably let that work itself out.
The cash is just a signing bonus. They get him for 6 years of MLB service time, the same as if he was drafted.
Ah. Forgot how it works signing foreign prospects
Figured I'd look up what Bogaerts got, only $410,000, tiny by comparison. Guess he wasn't nearly as hot of a prospect
Just another day for your typicsl Yankee fan.
He signed at 16, before playing any pro ball.
yep. They offered $25m and willing to only go to $27m if he signed.
Rock And Roll
Member
Pops is no doubt turning in his grave. I'm pretty surprised waking up to this news. Didn't think the Sox were really in it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I knew all the "experts" were wrong on Moncada and the supposed $100 million he'd command in bonuses + taxes.
I'm guessing the Dodgers were more keen on signing the other dude who was basically major league ready.
I'm guessing the Dodgers were more keen on signing the other dude who was basically major league ready.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Can't wait for Shohei Otani to be posted. He's gonna get a dump truck full of cash.
From the Cubs hopefully.
From the Cubs hopefully.
Kid is going to be fun to watch. Hell he's already fun to watch if you can find a stream.
CheDominik
Member
Isn't it actually $60M because of the CBA penalty?
So the first meeting with Cherington will go like this:
Now, boy, we spent a lot of money, so you'd better get real good real fast, or POW!
Roude Leiw
Member
Thanks to all the suggestions so far.
What kind of Baseball is there? Just got into Baseball last year in August because I visited a Brewers game in Milwaukee, which was a lot of fun. After that i watched some games online and went to an European Chamionship game here in Germany.
At the moment I am reading a baseball book mentioned in this thread.
What kind of Baseball is there? Just got into Baseball last year in August because I visited a Brewers game in Milwaukee, which was a lot of fun. After that i watched some games online and went to an European Chamionship game here in Germany.
At the moment I am reading a baseball book mentioned in this thread.