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MLB 2014-2015 Offseason |OT| Playoff Dreaming
- Thread starter chicagocubsfan
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Does this man the yankees wil actually rebuild?
chicagocubsfan
Member
The Brewers came in 3rd place in the Moncada sweepstakes.
Kinda surprising.
Kinda surprising.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Sources saying Mets came in 30th with 100 million guaranteed after Yoan turns 110
Yeah, I thought it was Prince Fielder grandstanding all over again. "No we are really going for him!" /offers20%belowasking
HarryDemeanor
Member
If Friedman didn't want him that should tell you something.
He's got a great eye for talent.
If we did end up signing Moncada I'd want him on the Gabe Kapler workout pronto. That kid needs to rival Puig in muscle and bat flips.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Does this mean the Dodgers are gonna sign that other Cuban?
HarryDemeanor
Member
I love this picture of Kemp.
Frozenprince
Banned
There are two pitchers, both due to the timing of their defection are not eligible until June 2nd. The Cubs can make offers to them by then which basically makes this a nil point because Theo loves Cuban players.
Surprised by the deal, GREAT value for the Sox, easily the #2-3 farm system in baseball now with this addition. Hell of a get, good for them.
I'v watched Maeken for years, Otani at 19 is better and I think Maeken can be an Ace level MLB pitcher.
That Fastball is just disgustingly good. Combine that with his money sinker and you've got a hell of a prospect. If anybody wants NPB streams lemme know, I'v got a bunch.
Well for instance there are the Royals who under Ned Yoast are a primary bunting team that steals a lot of bases, don't hit a lot of HR's but bunt constantly. There are teams like the Tigers who are just bombs away, the Angels are an excellent well rounded team, the Mets are a bad hitting team but have the best young pitching next to the Nats in baseball (imo).
What about baseball appeals most to you I guess is what I am asking? If you like dominant Pitching I suggest following on of the NY teams (both have outstanding pitching) or the Nationals if it has to be an EC team. The Marlins are also a good choice because of the power they've got in the batting order and the Cuban phenom they have in Fernandez. All are very good options.
Just never, ever, ever pick the Cardinals. Those are satans team.
HarryDemeanor
Member
MLB Trade Rumors has some interesting insights on what the Dodgers did during their run for Moncada.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/02/details-on-the-runners-up-for-yoan-moncada.html
Friedman is a smart man.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/02/details-on-the-runners-up-for-yoan-moncada.html
Friedman is a smart man.
Ninja Scooter
Member
There's another. I can't remember his name but he's like 29 years old so he's a straight free agent. Plays 2b/3b and has been linked to them.
Frozenprince
Banned
Olivera is a meh prospect, I think you'd be okay to nab him but he's a 1.5/2 WAR guy. Which is fine if you have a need at 2B. Yankees have Headley at third though and that's his optimal position IMO. Be interesting to watch.
I think Alvarez gets the BIIIIIIIG money deal people thought Yoan would get. Kid is a freak, slightly older Urias.
It is absolutely worth missing on a couple of those guys if you get one to bite on that offer. Great idea.
Oh. Oh my.
The Yankees might be in for a BIG, cultural shift if this is true.
I know one team that WON'T give it to him.
Frozenprince
Banned
It's almost like we have the cheapest ownership in the sport.
Oh and with the Dodgers demanding he wait until June 2nd, I'm 100% sure Friedman has a deal in place with Alvarez now. Only explanation.
Ninja Scooter
Member
MLB should just have a rule where everybody gets a Cuban and you can't have more than one.
Frozenprince
Banned
We'd get the fattest, oldest, worst one of them all.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Livan can still go, damnit!
He's only 19.
Purple Cheeto
Member
The rumor has been that the Dodgers would nab Olivera as insurance for Uribe at third. The issue I think is that Olivera thinks he's worth Castillo/Puig money but like you said no one else sees him as being worth that.
Dominican Power
Member
Oh Well.
Frozenprince
Banned
Alvarez is going to make BANK.
Congrats on the Headley/ARod platoon
Frozenprince
Banned
Yes, think of it as a MLB player being recalled to AAA, his contract isn't void and he isn't forced to sign a AAA deal. the money he's getting in AAA will be the mega bucks.
I live close enough to Pawtucket to warrant driving to see him.
I live close enough to Pawtucket to warrant driving to see him.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Too much Cubans in da league!
i think it was a matter of not wanting to spend more. rather than not having the resources too.
By all accounrts, moncada wanted to be a yankee and all they had to do was match the highest offer.
Ill be happy when the steinbrenners sell the team.
Ninja Scooter
Member
To A Rod
Moncada doesn't have roster protection yet. If a minor leaguer fluctuates between AAA and MLB and doesn't have enough service time, his salary fluctuates as well. Of course. I assume he negotiated a major league deal.
That said I doubt it matter much, isn't the bulk of the money he received a signing bonus? Plus minor leagues play under major league deals all the time.
Yeah but if plays a year in AAA, will he then have only 5 years remaining on his contact? Or is it six major league years that matter?
Contract doesn't affect service time. Most first round picks now make real money right away.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There's a lot of competition for Olivera from what I've heard and none of it applied to international bonus pools, so...
chicagocubsfan
Member
Cubs and Rangers will be back in the game by July 2nd as well.
This IFA period is gonna be good.
This IFA period is gonna be good.
Cubs/Dodgers/Rangers will probably all go over their IFA pool alongside some others.
Red Sox, Yankees, Rays, Angels, Diamondbacks are all out due to spending over the limit in 2014-2015.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Happy 52nd Birthday to Bobby Bonilla.
Mets are still paying him for the next 21 years.
Mets are still paying him for the next 21 years.
Purple Cheeto
Member
The new Nick Johnson.
The new CBA from a few years ago specifically prohibits ML deals for international signings under 23 or with less than 5 years of professional play. Moncada is on a standard mL contract where he has several years (I believe 3 given his age?) of unrestricted control, then he needs to be on the 40 man roster or is rule 5 eligible, plus costs an option to send to the minors. When he finally makes it to the majors he will need to accrue your standard 6 years of service time to reach free agency.
His luxury tax number will also be set by that. His signing bonus is a one time thing that is not factored in to luxury tax calculations, it instead is part of the Red Sox international signing budget. All clubs have an IFA budget and going over it has two penalty tiers, the first (I believe at around 50% over) results in a modest financial penalty and a restriction on signing IFAs for more than $300,000 in the following season. If instead they hit the next penalty tier (I believe around 100% over they pay a 1:1 penalty for every dollar over and can't sign >$300,000 IFAs for the next two years.
Both the Red Sox and Yankees went well over the second tier in IFA contracts even prior to Moncada being available. It is largely believed that an international draft is going to come soon and that Moncada hitting the market is actually only going to accelerate the push for one, so many teams have spent crazy money in the last few years (Cubs, Dodgers, and Rangers went over last year and were under penalty this year if I recall) because they want to leverage their financial advantages prior to a draft being instituted.
Also, the overage money the Sox will pay in is supposed to go to a special fund to spend on international marketing and development, so should be interesting to see how MLB spends a big $30M lump sum in the pursuit of international fans.
huh had no idea, thanks!
nick johnson despite getting hurt quite a bit in his career. played 10 years in the majors and was a good player. Profar hasnt really done anything yet.
fun fact, johnsons AA slash line in 1999 was 345/525/548. Dude was a beast.
That is really overstating his contributions. 65% of his WAR he accumulated in 05 and 06. Every other year he was at best replacement level, often significantly worse.
you might as well use wins in judging a pitcher also. war is too flawed. He had a career 123ops+, 370 woba. He was a pretty good offensive force when he played and didnt help himself out in the field or running the bases.
That's the gift that keeps on giving the whole year, Clark.
Frozenprince
Banned
Johnson's wRC+ was never great, other than 05 though his fielding metrics were pretty damn bad. Career UZR/150 of 1.8.
he had a career 126 wrc+ (which includes his rookie year and final seaon when he was all but a walking corpse) . 26% better than a league average player is pretty good.
^ Yeah but he was a butcher. Good hitter I'd accept. Not good player.
Sadly for him 2/3 of his at bats came in the NL so he had to play defense.
3 seasons over .425 slugging.
Powerhouse.
What a weird guy to argue over.
Sadly for him 2/3 of his at bats came in the NL so he had to play defense.
3 seasons over .425 slugging.
Powerhouse.
What a weird guy to argue over.
Frozenprince
Banned
I just think he was like, the definition of average.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Fuck Nick Johnson. One of the reasons Tino wasn't resigned.