Rock And Roll
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91.1 for Pedro is mind boggling.
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MLB 2014-2015 Offseason |OT| Playoff Dreaming
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evil solrac v3.0
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but he was at least a top ten second baseman for his career.
There are a lot of second basemen in that top ten.
Purple Cheeto
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He only finished top 10 in WAR 4 times in his entire career.
JAWS Second Base (14th),
65.1 career WAR/41.6
7yr-peak WAR/53.4 JAWS
Average HOF 2B (out of 19)
69.4 career WAR/44.5
7yr-peak WAR/57.0 JAWS
He's below the average of all other HoF 2B. He's literally the worst 2B in the HoF.
Actually this guy is much worse: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/huggimi01.shtml
Dmncnby2k9
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Wtf fuck you voters. Mike Piazza backne was a result of bad genes. The voters are terrible. Damn it all!!
He didn't get his tea leaf oil massage that day!
matthewwhatever
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Huggins is in as a manager. Though considering who he managed, it'd be pretty remarkable if he hadn't won all those World Series. That should be expected when you have six future HoFers on your team.
Future Foundation
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Wasn't it Perlman who started that drumbeat a few years back?
matthewwhatever
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Ryan Howard is available too! Nine teams can just snatch him up now, no strings
other than $60 million
No. He had the allegations in his playing days. I think when his HR numbers doubled one year. Lots of guys juiced though, not just the power guys. It's so stupid. PEACE.
Ninja Scooter
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ARod should use the $60 million the Yankees are still going to pay him and open up a new Hall of Fame.
sf2fanatic
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3k hits got Bagwell his stats. Don't hate Sanji
Congrats Biggio. He woulda had more hits if he didn't start at catching
A-Rod should make his own baseball league with Bonds and Clemens in it.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
A-Roids hall of homers, bacne and small balls!
matthewwhatever
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Have you seen who the Veterans Committee has let in? You wouldn't think it was possible, but the players are even worse at voting for the HoF than the writers.
Purple Cheeto
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Ah yes, those basement dwelling journalists that never played the game.
Dominican Power
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Piazza is being punished because of speculation. That's terrible.
Ninja Scooter
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Sir Alemeth
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Enough HoF talk, let's get back to some real news:
So how about resigning Vogey?
http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/SF-Giants-pitcher-Hudson-undergoes-ankle-5997424.php
So how about resigning Vogey?
Dominican Power
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Already stressing yourself out? lulz
Steelers done, Pitt Panthers shitting the season up. I dont like nba or nhl. Its all i have.
Dominican Power
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Stephen Drew? WHY?! All he's going to do is stink it up.
HarryDemeanor
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I didn't know Ned joined the Yankees front office.
Why? Let's be serious here. Drew isn't exactly blocking an elite prospect. Refsnyder needs work at second and despite good minor league numbers isn't really highly touted.
Because Drew is terrible and they could have used that money elsewhere. Even steamer projects Refsynder to be the better player.
Mr. Enigma
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Stephen Drew gets 1-year, $5 million from the Yankees. Drew will play 2B.
Dominican Power
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Cashman building a roster to play 1 run games.
he had a poor 2014 due to whatever reason. im sure missing half the year didnt help anything, with a full spring training under his belt, his 2013 would mostly top anything refs could do. And whatever better offense you think refs gives you on offense is going to be lost in his defense. Another year to mature at second isnt going to hurt anything.
and saying 5 million could be better used else where when referencing the yankees is laughable. they arent going after scherzer and i want nothing to do with shields. so i dont know where else it could be going to.
They spent little money for an upgrade and if need be they cut him if he stinks the place up.
TarpitCarnivore
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If they gave Drew 10/15/20mm than yeah get upset, but it's 5mm. In the grand scheme of their payroll that's nothing. He'll have a full spring training with the team so things could be better.
STL may be chasing a top-end starter. I would do Gonzalez/Grichuk/Bourjos for Hamels. Maybe slot in one of CMart (although I really hope Mo holds on to him) and Piscotty if Amaro plays hardball.
Scherzer would also be really nice as insurance for Waino but I'd prefer the front office to stand pat and make a trade if someone (probably Wacha, maybe Wainwright and definitely Jaime (although we're not counting on him anyway)) gets hit with a major injury.
Nemss, LGY?
Scherzer would also be really nice as insurance for Waino but I'd prefer the front office to stand pat and make a trade if someone (probably Wacha, maybe Wainwright and definitely Jaime (although we're not counting on him anyway)) gets hit with a major injury.
Nemss, LGY?
Rock And Roll
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Don't know if anyone watched Letterman last night but Top 10 things I said after I learned I was getting into the hall of fame
Little Green Yoda
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First time I've heard about their interest in Price. Not sure how legit the rumors are since Mozeliak trades don't seem to leak too often beforehand.
If two OFs are getting moved for Hamels/Price, they must really like Pham/Piscotty to step up this season. Or they're really gloomy on the health of Wainwright/Wacha.
Yeah I have a bad feeling about staying healthy this year myself, so maybe it's worth it if we're only parting with Ramsey-level guys to Detroit. The division isn't so scary to me this year besides maybe the mystery factor of the Cubs. I'd rather we wait to see on the who/when with regard to injuries though. Starting the season without depth in crucial positions seems pretty dumb.
Little Green Yoda
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There's zero chance Price is being traded for Ramsey-level talent. Ramsey got us an injured Masterson, far from a LH ace that Price is. Never mind the fact that Detroit is in win-now mode and has little reason to move Price. That's partly why I'm surprised there's supposed interest in him from the Cards.
Between the Heyward trade and a hypothetical Price trade, that's a hefty all-in move that seems out of character for the organization. Both are slated to hit free agency after the season and I doubt they will pony up the $$$ to retain both of them.
chicagocubsfan
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If the Cards want an ace Hamels would be a great fit with his contract. I don't really see them trading for one year of a guy. Maybe they make a run at Shields as well.
He'll have to make a move first before he can screw one up.
Smyly + Jackson is maybe = to Bourjos + Marco though, amirite? (I know I'm not).
Seriously though for one year of Price you'd be real stupid to let Dombrowski fleece you given how small the package was to land him with more than a year left on the contract.