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MLB 2014 Season |OT| This Year, We Put Some Mustard on It.
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Frozenprince
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Nobody wants Bartolo Colon.
Maybe we can trade Dillon Gee for a bag of funyuns.
@Ken_Rosenthal: To be clear: Source not saying #RedSox will move Lester and Lackey in the same deal. Just saying very good chance both will be traded.
I can see trading Lackey to the Dodgers and Lester to the Cards or Pirates.
Dmncnby2k9
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Dude hates on the rooks.
BFIB
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Cards have been fucked enough by the Red Sox. I don't want to give them Piscotty and Kaminsky to get Lester for 2 months, only to return to Boston in the offseason.
I wouldn't put too much stock in Lester returning to Boston. I put it at 2/5 at best. He wants to play for a contending team next year. Boston isn't close.
HarryDemeanor
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Frozenprince
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I mean downplaying a rook's success is one thing, but saying something like:
And then constantly downplaying everything Wilmer does. It screams of being impartial.
sf2fanatic
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Gee was decent before he got hurt. Get him in a pitchers park he might do OK
Sir Alemeth
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Dan Uggla:
0 for 11, 6 strikeouts, 3 errors since joining the Giants.
0 for 11, 6 strikeouts, 3 errors since joining the Giants.
Damn, he's doing a lot better since leaving Atlanta.
damn
Sir Alemeth
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Dan Uggla has to go. We're better off playing our minor leaguer Joe Panik at 2nd than that disgrace...at least we would've won a few games this past week because of Uggla's errors
Pence
Blanco
Posey
Panda
Colvin
Panik
Arias
Susac
With all these injuries, we've been consistantly playing 4-5 minor leaguers everyday in our lineup...its no wonder we can't score any runs. :/
Pence
Blanco
Posey
Panda
Colvin
Panik
Arias
Susac
With all these injuries, we've been consistantly playing 4-5 minor leaguers everyday in our lineup...its no wonder we can't score any runs. :/
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Damn Revere plays a crazy CF.
Purple Cheeto
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The Dodgers acquiring Darwin Barney might be the biggest move so far!
LyleLanley
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If you saw the same tweet I did that was a fake Ken Rosenthal account. I don't think anything has happened yet.
Little Green Yoda
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Again, the biggest issue isn't whether or not he returns to Boston. The big issue is that it'll take a sizable contract to keep him beyond 2 months and there's no way to get any draft picks back.
The whole "supplement the Waino/Molina/Holliday core with cheap, young talent" plan kinda falls apart if you trade away multiple young potential stars for another expensive aging star.
Decent? He was one of the better pitchers in the second half last year and carried over to this season before he got hurt. But he's been struggling that last few starts since his return from the DL.
Also Terry Collins is an idiot to play Tejada as much as he does. Tejada has no standout tools, if anything he's below average in all department of the game. Flores might not be the greatest defender but atleast he has a promising bat but we'll never know cause he doesn't give the guy any playing time.
Little Green Yoda
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Yucky numbers but his peripherals are better than his ERA suggests and moving to an NL pitcher's park should help some.
Hopefully we didn't give up much for a meh starter who's averaging a tick above 5 innings per start.
Carpe Libertatem
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I don't think the Cards were ever really in on Lester with what the Red Sox were wanting for a two month rental. Cards value control more than anything
If this, makes total sense. Ramsey had no shot at making it in the Cards organization with Taveras, Piscotty, and I guess Grichuk ahead of him (though Ramsey can play CF)
Little Green Yoda
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It'll be interesting to see how scrap heap pitchers fare with the Cards in the post-Duncan era.
HarryDemeanor
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There was a fake Buster Olney account last night posting the same thing.
Confrontation
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Masty nooooooooo. I'm gonna miss watching his sinker and slider. Nooooooooooooooooo
BFIB
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I'm OK with the Masterson deal. Ramsey was blocked.
Masterson has been on the DL for knee issues, which appear to be fine now. When he's on, his sinker is pretty much unhittable. Exactly the type of pitchers the Cards like. This just has Jake Westbrook 2.0 all over it. Which I'm OK with. I don't see the Cards going deep into a playoff run if they make it this year anyway with how shitty our offense has been.
Masterson has been on the DL for knee issues, which appear to be fine now. When he's on, his sinker is pretty much unhittable. Exactly the type of pitchers the Cards like. This just has Jake Westbrook 2.0 all over it. Which I'm OK with. I don't see the Cards going deep into a playoff run if they make it this year anyway with how shitty our offense has been.
David Price.
Carpe Libertatem
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It probably helps the Cardinals infield is way better defensively than Cleveland (+35 DRS to -39 DRS). Should definitely help Masterson, though his BB/9 is pretty bad this year
lold
Frozenprince
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Gee is a fringe #5, good for what he is but not worth all that much.
Tejada doesn't have a single 40+ tool, honestly I can't even think of one he has. Fielding is bad, arm is meh, batting is crap, speed is meh, power is non-existent. He was on pace for the lowest WAR in MLB HISTORY for the first two months of the year. He's progressed from that, thankfully, and is now just terrible.
Flores offers a bat, offense, something we are beyond desperate for. If we have to sacrifice a little defense that isn't even that noticeable to get on base more, I'm for that 10/10 times.
Little Green Yoda
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We'll win the WS when our pitchers give up negative runs!
I don't get it. I assume they are going to move Kelly to the pen but Masterson has been a legit abortion clinic dumpster fire.
Justin Mastersons last 3 starts: 13 ER 20 H 10 BB 14 k 2 HBP
9 innings
Masterson has been that way since he started with the sox. At times he looks like he could dominate games, at other times he's a disaster, he'll never be more than a servicable starter.
Not a bad trade at all seeing how Ramsey is pretty much blocked right now and in the immediate future, although we need hitting more than pitching. Even if Masterson has scoreless starts that doesn't guarantee wins if the offense can't score
Dodgers are not going for Lester or Price
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/07/dodgers-backing-off-talks-for-front-end-starters.html
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/07/dodgers-backing-off-talks-for-front-end-starters.html
Posturing. Dodgers is World Series or bust at this point for them.
Carpe Libertatem
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We needed a fifth starter anyway until Wacha comes off the DL and had been using a 4 man rotation since the break because MLB decided to give the Cards like 3 or 4 off days in a span of two weeks. So Wainwright/Lynn/Miller/Kelly/Masterson (so bad :lol)
Masterson's recent troubles seem to be more likely related to a knee injury he was put on the DL for and is coming off Friday. With a much better infield defense, I don't think it would be out of the question that Masterson improves his numbers since he's a ground ball pitcher. He's not going to be incredible or anything, but he'll eat innings and maybe there's a chance for some upside.
Basically what the Cardinals needed and they gave up an almost 25 year old outfielder in AA who is like #4 in depth.
Dmncnby2k9
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Dudes arm slot and delivery is tough to repeat. When he finds the slot dude can be unhittable.
Doubront to the Cubs
https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/494561741628391424
Pete Abraham is reporting the Sox are working on a deal to send Lester to the Orioles. Red Sox would end up with a pitcher.
https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/494561422861692928
https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/494561741628391424
Pete Abraham is reporting the Sox are working on a deal to send Lester to the Orioles. Red Sox would end up with a pitcher.
https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/494561422861692928
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