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[DoktorEvil]

Hudson didn't join until 2005, the last year of the 14 straight division titles.

Ted Turner had an infinite bank account. They signed Greg Maddux to the richest free agent deal ever (until a week later when Barry Bonds signed with the Giants). Turner gave Smoltz and Glavine whatever they wanted too.

But in 2002, Turner was pushed out due to the adomidable AOL Time Warner merger. The Braves were under orders to cut money and couldn't pay Glavine what he wanted, so he took off to the Mets.

And Smoltz was a relief pitcher from 2001-2004 (missed the entire 2000 season due to Tommy John surgery) until he went back to the rotation in 2005. Smoltz was very close to signing with the Yankees after 2001 with promises of going back to the rotation and way more money than the Braves were offering, but Smoltz chose loyalty and stayed.

He was a pretty damn dominant closer though.

But yeah the Braves had unlimited money during their run, the Mets, theoretically, should be able to afford to keep at least 2 of the big 5.

14 straight?? Fuck.

They were also able to keep Chipper and Andruw happy.

Speaking of Andruw Jones, I had no idea he spent his last year of baseball overseas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andruw_Jones

Oh man, imagining Smoltz on the 01 Yankees...

 

[3N16MA]

"Good baserunning that makes runs possible" is not a specific stat, bud...

Maybe you should read more, bud.

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/offense/bsr/

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/offense/ubr/

 

[BumRush]

Maybe you should read more, bud.

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/offense/bsr/

Sorry if I offended you or something, dude. Lol.

He says there's just constant discomfort and pain, they say there's no structural damage so surgery isn't a choice. He's just in pain when he pitches.

Sandy has basically written him off.

That sucks. I thought it was more of a "he'll be fine next year" thing.

Change to bullpen?

 

[Frozenprince]

Thor has the best 4-seem in baseball.

I said it.

 

[Link]

Guess that relief appearance didn't have any ill effects on Thor.

 

[3N16MA]

Sorry if I offended you or something, dude. Lol.



That sucks. I thought it was more of a "he'll be fine next year" thing.

Change to bullpen?

Not offended at all. Just returning the same reply that you sent my way. I wouldn't expect it to offend you.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Oh man, imagining Smoltz on the 01 Yankees...

Smoltz without the beard would be so strange.

 

[jmaine_ph]

Thor is my age. That's depressing and absolutely amazing at the same damn time!

 

[Audible Phonetics]

Thor has the best 4-seem in baseball.

I said it.

Agreed.

I am concerned though. We need to keep this core together.

 

[Frozenprince]

That sucks. I thought it was more of a "he'll be fine next year" thing.

Change to bullpen?

At this point if he ever pitches again I'd be amazed. He's basically describing dead arm. It might be in his head, but if he can't get past it, doesn't matter. Once you get shoulder issues, you're done.

 

[Rock And Roll]

Thor has the best 4-seem in baseball.

I said it.

That Jose Fernandez fellow has got a pretty nice one too. Not as high in velocity but he's got fantastic command.

 

[3N16MA]

Agreed.

I am concerned though. We need to keep this core together.

They're not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe Harvey.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Smoltz without the beard would be so strange.

Johnny Damon looked terrible without a beard.

 

[jman2050]

The Mets have four, maybe five starting pitchers with this kind of filthy stuff, that's just plain not fair.

 

[BumRush]

Not offended at all. Just returning the same reply that you sent my way. I wouldn't expect it to offend you.

I was saying that what granderson did will never show up in box scores. The average baseball fan or Mets fan will never see the fangraph stuff you linked. Thanks for linking it though, man.

 

[Frozenprince]

That Jose Fernandez fellow has got a pretty nice one too. Not as high in velocity but he's got fantastic command.

Jose throws it 96-98, it feels like 100 at the box because of late explosive life and lack of trailing.

He's got a great one, but so does Thor. His has such incredible late life.

The Mets have four, maybe five starting pitchers with this kind of filthy stuff, that's just plain not fair.

Wheeler probably has the best stuff in the entire group. And he's not even healthy!

It's nuts. I'v never seen anything like it. Any single one of them could pitch like an ace or be the ace of another team.

 

[BumRush]

At this point if he ever pitches again I'd be amazed. He's basically describing dead arm. It might be in his head, but if he can't get past it, doesn't matter. Once you get shoulder issues, you're done.

Shit. I hope you're wrong!

 

[MultiJhonny]

the Cubs should probably think about scoring a couple runs

 

[CygnusXS]

 

[Link]

A couple more runs here would be nice.

 

[3N16MA]

the Cubs should probably think about scoring a couple runs

Easier said than done. Mets have one of their freaks on the mound.

 

[Choomp]

No! Bahahaha

 

[DoktorEvil]

Growth spurts are a hell of a thing.

 

[3N16MA]

I was saying that what granderson did will never show up in box scores. The average baseball fan or Mets fan will never see the fangraph stuff you linked. Thanks for linking it though, man.

If you're talking about the box score you would be correct.

 

[MultiJhonny]

Easier said than done. Mets have one of their freaks on the mound.

I was being facetious lol

 

[Link]

Must have been before Mjölnir deemed him worthy.

 

[3N16MA]

That is some other kid named Noah Syndergaard.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

O shit, what a transformation.lol

 

[J2 Cool]

Wonder if thats it for Arrietta. Other than that manufactured Granderson walk turned into a run he's really righted himself but imagine Maddons ready to pinch hit for him, and give him more rest

 

[Audible Phonetics]

They're not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe Harvey.

I meant our bats. We have defense but also our offensive potential is nuts.

We need to keep murphy and cespedes

 

[Frozenprince]

I meant our bats. We have defense but also our offensive potential is nuts.

We need to keep murphy and cespedes

No we don't. I'd like to keep Yo, absolutely, but Murph can be replaced by Dilson/Wilmer and we'd lose basically nothing offensively. Hell we'd get better defensively. Murph is dumb as hell with his defense sometimes.

There is plenty in this system and available to keep the offense viable.

 

[Link]

Hoping Thor can have a quick inning so he can go one more after this.

 

[3N16MA]

I meant our bats. We have defense but also our offensive potential is nuts.

We need to keep murphy and cespedes

Murphy is a decent 2B with a good bat and passable defense. What he is doing in the postseason is great but the Mets shouldn't overvalue him.

Cespedes is someone they should focus on.

 

[Link]

This inning is going bad quickly.

 

[Frozenprince]

Murphy is a decent 2B with a good bat and passable defense. What he is doing in the postseason is great but the Mets shouldn't overvalue him.

Cespedes is someone they should focus on.

Exactly, letting Murph go, using that money for Yo, and letting the internal options they've been grooming for this exact situation take over.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Big Sexy warming up!

 

[J2 Cool]

So which superhero is Colon?

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

So which superhero is Colon?

The Blob.

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Strikezone is a little wonky.

 

[Link]

Great pitch.

 

[Malo]

Nice changeup.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Great work by Thor.

 

[3N16MA]

So which superhero is Colon?

Big Bertha.

 

[jman2050]

That changeup was absolutely disgusting.

 

[minx]

Strikezone is a little wonky.

Yup. We would still be losing but Schwarber should be on base. Rizzo, Bryant, and Montero have been terrible during the playoffs.

 

[Link]

Damn. At least it didn't go out.

 

[chicagocubsfan]

We got a run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GK86]

Great start by Thor.

 

[J2 Cool]

That a boy Bryant!

 

[Malo]

I thought that was a homerun off the bat.