Little Green Yoda
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8 tough road games in 7 days. Easily the toughest stretch of the season.
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MLB 2015 Regular Season |OT| Pickin' Up the Pace of Play
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they were already playing bad in the week before, looks like they're running on fumes
Edit: and there it is, honestly not surprised they lost the way they've been playing
brianjones
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wowe
Little Green Yoda
Member
fuck, two nights in a row
guess this is payback for that sweep at Busch earlier in the season
guess this is payback for that sweep at Busch earlier in the season
Lol me too...I loved watching baseball and it was either that or WGN and the Cubs... Luckily I came around to the Giants when I got older and wiser. I did always like the Giants and we went to Candlestick all the time, just the Braves were my team to cheer for when I was home after school. Loved Maddux and Pendleton and Grissom and Otis Nixon and all those dudes.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
What a terrible game by the Cards. Great win Buccos.
Seconded. STL and Pitt are very similar in a lot of ways this year and it makes things always tight.
Thank god it wasn't Ishikawa that drove that last run in though, I'd have to cry myself to sleep.
Little Green Yoda
Member
what happened to jakncoke? haven't seen him around
I see him in the NFL threads all the time. There's not too many Pirates fans here, and I don't think he likes me.... sooooo
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Mainly posts in the NFL thread.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Soco has been okay. Unless you want Mozeliak to completely revamp the bullpen a la 2011, we're stuck with most of those guys. 1B is a more pressing need (and maybe an innings eater) but maybe getting bullpen arms will be a cheaper route to improve the team.
Hoping Walden can return and give the unit a boost but I'm not holding my breath.
yea mainly Greenwood and Tuivalala, and hopefully Walden comes back soon to to take some innings from Chote and Maness
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Most noteworthy stat box of the season:
Most noteworthy stat box of the season:
Takes me back to the question raised on I think Effectively Wild: Can you get every letter of the alphabet from one pitching staff's surnames? Rzepczynski was the undisputed MVP of that contest, lol.
Could definitely see myself rooting for the Pirates in the playoffs if the Mets don't make it which they probably won't. Please, please beat out the Cards for the division. Last thing I want to see is the Cards in the World Series again. Shit I'd rather the Nats make it than them.
Mr. Enigma
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According to Ken Rosenthal, the Braves were close to acquiring Nick Swisher from the Indians in exchange for Chris Johnson before Swisher got injured in June.
sf2fanatic
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Well Astros gaf it was fun while it lasted right?
CosmicQueso
Member
Heading out there for the three game set against the Dbacks at the end of July. Can't wait. Haven't been to Houston since going to the Astrodome in '98 to see Sosa.
I imagine it will be chilly. Should probably bring a light sweater.
Hell man, even if the Astros can't win the division, who cares. Huge steps forward this year and more on the way. This team's only going to get better.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Home run derby will probably get rained out.
The Blue Jays are something alright. Crazy offense combined with large doses of pitching frustrations. This team can make me go from disappointed to excited to angry in a couple of innings, but I gotta admit I can't stop watching.
It's a high speed train always on the brink of derailing, but who doesn't want to watch a good train wreck?
Silver Arrows
Banned
When it ends the same way every year. Ask Leafs fans.
Though if the Buccos play the way they are, and if the Astros and Twins can keep up, at least this year's playoffs will be good.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Fuck everything else. If AA doesn't go hard for a pitcher at the deadline this year, then the season is lost, and AA and probably Gibby's time in Toronto are finished.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Double post, but Bluebird Banter has done their semi-occasional check ups on how AA has been doing.
The number's are interesting, as out of 528 votes:
So, Blue Jays-GAF. What is your opinion of AA?
The number's are interesting, as out of 528 votes:
So, Blue Jays-GAF. What is your opinion of AA?
bonesmccoy
Banned
Stop listening to Jerry Howarth. He's a radio voice and nothing more.
With the Jays limp towards the All Star Break I don't think they should be buyers. If the Yankees keep their current pace they would end with ~88-89 wins, meaning the Jays would need to go 44-29 to make the playoffs. That's a .600 win percentage rest of the way which I don't think would be possible with the acquisition of one more pitcher.
In fact, I think they should actually be sellers. Travis, Donaldson, Martin, and their young pitchers are a pretty decent core to build around. If they could get a good package from Pittsburgh for someone like Edwin I say do it. Reyes, Bautista, and Edwin are only getting older and have been declining the past couple years, plus have injury issues.
I just think sometimes how awesome an infield of Travis, Hechavarria, and Donaldson would have been for the future...
Edit: Although I'm not saying that I wouldn't be ecstatic if they do manage to make a blockbuster and a push for the playoffs!
In fact, I think they should actually be sellers. Travis, Donaldson, Martin, and their young pitchers are a pretty decent core to build around. If they could get a good package from Pittsburgh for someone like Edwin I say do it. Reyes, Bautista, and Edwin are only getting older and have been declining the past couple years, plus have injury issues.
I just think sometimes how awesome an infield of Travis, Hechavarria, and Donaldson would have been for the future...
Edit: Although I'm not saying that I wouldn't be ecstatic if they do manage to make a blockbuster and a push for the playoffs!
Silver Arrows
Banned
Dallas Keuchel and Zack Grienke are the ASG starters.
Wow...I knew Yost was going to go young, but wooooow.
Wow...I knew Yost was going to go young, but wooooow.
Dominican Power
Member
Sale should be starting. I bet Ned Yost's reasoning was "wins"
Silver Arrows
Banned
I agree. That or Archer. Both Sale and Archer have been lights out this season.
Triangulate
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Yost made an agreement with Ventura that Sale is only going to pitch one inning.
Admittedly I haven't really watched the ASG for a few years, but don't the starters typically go more than one inning these days?
Admittedly I haven't really watched the ASG for a few years, but don't the starters typically go more than one inning these days?
CosmicQueso
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Huh... I must not be looking at the right stats, because anyone that says Sale should start over Keuchel based on performance this year would be crazy looking at the numbers I'm looking at.
Unless your only metric of being "lights out" is strikeouts.
In practically every value category, Dallas has the clear edge.
This right here is some anti-Houston bias.
Plus, think of the beard.
Unless your only metric of being "lights out" is strikeouts.
In practically every value category, Dallas has the clear edge.
This right here is some anti-Houston bias.
Plus, think of the beard.
Little Green Yoda
Member
It's a HUGE gap in strikeout rate though. Sale is also giving up fewer walks and fewer hits. Keuchel has pitched a little bit further into games with a better ERA and fewer HRs allowed.
Dallas has been having a good season and choosing him to start is defensible to some degree but you're out of your mind if you can't see why Sale is arguably having the better season so far.
Dominican Power
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Keuchel is not a better pitcher than Chris Sale.
CosmicQueso
Member
This year he sure as hell is
Sale is the more dominating starter, Keuchel is who I'd want on the mound to win a game.
Yeah but what might happen isn't what the ASG is about. Hell, Jack Armstrong started an ASG based on one great first half despite being terrible the rest of his career.
They are both awesome, but just because Sale strikes a lot of guys out doesn't make him the better pitcher.
Dominican Power
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This year he sure as hell is
Sale is the more dominating starter, Keuchel is who I'd want on the mound to win a game.
Yeah but what might happen isn't what the ASG is about. Hell, Jack Armstrong started an ASG based on one great first half despite being terrible the rest of his career.
They are both awesome, but just because Sale strikes a lot of guys out doesn't make him the better pitcher.
That doesn't mean anything.
CosmicQueso
Member
Anyways, both couldn't hold Sonny Gray's jock.
Great retort. Excellent analysis.
Great retort. Excellent analysis.
Little Green Yoda
Member
That table is double/triple/quadruple counting stats in which Keuchel has the advantage. The first 4 stats are (E)RA based runs/wins - of course the pitcher with the better (E)RA also has more (E)RA-based wins! If you were to use FIP-based wins (above replacement, above average), the table looks totally different.This year he sure as hell is
Sale is the more dominating starter, Keuchel is who I'd want on the mound to win a game.