Boras wouldn't talk to a team offering Harper 300M.
EDIT: The race between AL MVP is very close. Trout is having the better season offensively while Donaldson has contributed more with his glove.
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Boras wouldn't talk to a team offering Harper 300M.
EDIT: The race between AL MVP is very close. Trout is having the better season offensively while Donaldson has contributed more with his glove.
BFIB
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He's done all right. Only allowed 1 base stealer, hasn't had a passed ball.
Would it be tough w/o Molina? Absolutely, but we did OK last year w/o him.
TheSecondSpitter
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Boras managed to get Tom Hicks to bid against himself on Slappy's contract with the Rangers. Anything is possible.
StudioTan
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Not sure about that:
Donaldson Trout
Avg .299 .297
OBP .373 .398
Hits 179 164
HR 41 40
2B 40 29
Runs 121 99
OPS .951 .983
RBI 122 88
WAR 8.9 8.8
The one of the biggest ones IMO, game winning RBIs - Donaldson 20 (including 3 walk off home runs), Trout 9
It's close but I don't see how Donaldson doesn't win it this year.
CosmicQueso
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Your analysis is 0 for 2.
Ninja Scooter
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Donaldson's ability to make the people ahead of him in the batting order get on base, surely using some form of telepathy, is certainly mind blowing.
StudioTan
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No one was on base when he won the game with a home run yesterday. Are you saying clutch game winning home runs are meaningless?
Ninja Scooter
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I'm saying "clutch" stats are meaningless, yes, as are RBI.
Little Green Yoda
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Using context dependent stats to judge an individual player lol.
You also have to consider that Angels Stadium (and most of the AL West parks) skew towards pitcher friendly. Rogers Centre (and most of the AL East parks) skew towards batter friendly.
StudioTan
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So which stats should we use? Cause Donaldson leads in most of them.
Also, most writers who vote are old school, RBIs and game winning hits matter.
CosmicQueso
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Trout: .297/.398/.585, 175 OPS+, .412 wOBA, 171 wRC+
Donaldson: .299/.373/.578, 158 OPS+, .402 wOBA, 157 wRC+
You posted rWAR in which Trout has a greater oWAR than Donaldson. Donaldson's superior defensive contribution not offense has given him the edge over Trout.
It's close but Trout has been better on offensive. Runs and RBI are numbers that are dramatically impacted by team play and lineups. Harper has less runs and RBI than Donaldson while easily being the better player on offense.
You have to look at park factors which wRC+ takes into account.
Read the post above. Donaldson has also provided more value with his glove than Trout.
Little Green Yoda
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What 3N16MA said re: wOBA and wRC+.
Most writers won't take those into account but I thought this discussion was about who you think should win.
StudioTan
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Fair enough. I still think Donaldson is the favorite, especially if LA doesn't make the playoffs.
No, it's about who I think WILL win. That's why I'm saying walk off home runs matter, they get voter's attention.
I also think he is the favourite. If voting took place today I think voters give it to Donaldson.
He had a really nice defensive year in 2012. But that's one year. His 3-year sample from 2013-2015 is bad.
Even if you include 2012 it is easy to find 3 OF better than him.
Zaun should be fired along with Tabler and Martinez. Put Campbell back in the booth.
Little Green Yoda
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I'm guessing he's lost a few steps since he bulked up?
According Inside Edge, he made 6/20 "remote" plays in 2012-13. For 2014-15, he's 0/18 for plays in the same category.
Can't wait until there's more Statcast info to improve the analysis of defense.
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Bring back Dan Shulman. Martinez was ok doing colour.
I saw someone on Twitter, but can't remember who for sourcing, say that they timed Trout at 4.4 from home to first recently, which is fairly slow.
Jack Remington
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Greinke has been better and should get the award. Fuck pitcher wins.
TheSecondSpitter
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B-b-but Joe Morgan would have you believe "great pitching creates great run support and therefore a great number of wins".
HOW CAN ANYBODY DISPUTE THIS LOGIC????
The camera angles are so good for Root broadcasts at PNC.
But god MLBTV is going to drive me insane by kicking from the live broadcast to the beginning of the program on every single commercial break. Does anyone else have this problem?
Huh. Only the 6th time in MLB history that teams with 95+ wins have met for a series of 3 or more games this late in the season. Others were 1909 (pirates/cubs, pirates won WS
), 85 (mets/cards), 85 (yankees/jays), 87 (jays/tigers), 01 (As/Mariners).
But god MLBTV is going to drive me insane by kicking from the live broadcast to the beginning of the program on every single commercial break. Does anyone else have this problem?
Huh. Only the 6th time in MLB history that teams with 95+ wins have met for a series of 3 or more games this late in the season. Others were 1909 (pirates/cubs, pirates won WS
), 85 (mets/cards), 85 (yankees/jays), 87 (jays/tigers), 01 (As/Mariners).Carpe Libertatem
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Sign Jason Heyward
Little Green Yoda
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<3 Heyward
Surprised Marte tested his arm but not Piscotty's.
Surprised Marte tested his arm but not Piscotty's.
I think that was the coaching staff/Hurdle more than Marte. Probably figured that it was better than seeing what Happ could do.
Still though, that was shallow, damn.
Edit well, looking at the replay maybe Marte did just figure he'd gamble. He's fast enough that the play was still close.
Carpe Libertatem
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Trying to send Marte then is the right move probably because Happ is on deck, but dunno why he didn't go on the other fly ball earlier
Please no. My fantasy team is in the championship game and he's on my team.
Mr. Enigma
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Angels sign Mat Latos.
Your sacrifice is for the greater good.
MultiJhonny
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damn harrison nice play
The barves will be terrible for the next couple of years, they'll get plenty chances for a top pick!
I doubt they do better than pick #5 next year.
Carpe Libertatem
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I really hate the ability of the Pirates to pick up pitchers off the scrap heap and make them good
Is this what people felt when Dave Duncan was kinda doing the same thing with the Cards?
edit: like it's not even like JA Happ was ever good or anything, he's always sucked but is suddenly pitching to a 2.25 FIP this season
And people say the Cardinals have devil magic
Is this what people felt when Dave Duncan was kinda doing the same thing with the Cards?
edit: like it's not even like JA Happ was ever good or anything, he's always sucked but is suddenly pitching to a 2.25 FIP this season
And people say the Cardinals have devil magic
Searage Black Magic. Happ has a 10% better strikeout rate since joining. It's nuts.
MultiJhonny
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yo pirates really? 2 innings in a row with bases loaded and you can't do anything?
Little Green Yoda
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In and out of trouble. Lynn could use a quick 3 outs next inning.
The real black magic is Happ having 37 pitches through 4 innings. Dude's gonna be able to Pitch tomorrow night at this rate.