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Padres play with Olivera

@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Padres can escape $28.5M obligation to Olivera only if he goes to prison for domestic-violence charge. Case still pending.

@Ken_Rosenthal: #Padres expected to DFA Olivera, as others have reported. Mere conviction would not allow SD to void deal. He would need to go to prison.

@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: According to rules, #Padres cannot void Olivera’s deal. If he goes to prison, he would not be paid during time he could not work.

 

[Frozenprince]

Rea's arm gave out a whopping one full turn into his Marlins career.

 

[JoseDFrog]

Daaaaaaaaaaa Yankees..... Lose!!!

#teamfiresale

 

[Original Famous Ray]

Ruggiano strikes out in his first AB w RISP. He'll fit right in

Well...he almost made a spectacular play. lol

 

[Frozenprince]

Padres play with Olivera

That is ridiculously scummy.

 

[RBH]

you mean 20 million extra. it sounds like the braves ignored that olivera was a sunk cost and compounded the mistake by taking on a more expensive replacement level player. they won't be competing for most/all of kemp's remaining deal, so it doesn't really matter in terms of payroll restrictions, but i don't see the point.

Eh, considering the lack of power options in FA over the next couple of years and the absolute dearth of power in the Braves' system overall, I think Kemp is a relative bargain, even with his horrible defense. I'm interested to see what they do with Markakis now.

I'm honestly just amazed that Coppolella was able to find someone who would even entertain the idea of trading for Olivera.

Kinda funny how this trade today is exactly one year after the Olivera/Wood trade was finalized.

Since June 1, Kemp is hitting .296/.333/.513 with 13 doubles, 10 homers and 36 RBI in 48 games. #Braves

https://twitter.com/KevinMcAlpin/status/759533971810181121

 

[Original Famous Ray]

Superb infield play by the Mets.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

 

[baxter2231]

Ruggiano strikes out in his first AB w RISP. He'll fit right in

And with that dive he may have injured himself aswell. True Mets thru and thru.

 

[Original Famous Ray]

Mets

 

[GK86]

Mets are going to be swept by the Rockies.

 

[Lunar FC]

#DahlFuture

 

[Windu]

I feel like last year when the Braves got Olivera, someone here was trying like hell to convince me that it was a good trade and that Olivera would be good while I was bitching about it from the moment it was even speculated.

I was in the camp that it was a decent trade. Peraza I thought was nothing special, utility player. Wood, good but we had pitching depth and I thought he was an injury waiting to happen, then again all pitchers are. Jim Johnson Avalan, useless.

I trusted the braves scouts and baseball America spoke highly of Olivera and he was supposed to play 3B..Decent risk imo, Paco Rodriguez is a good arm, but whether he comes back from injury, who knows. Zachery Bird minor leaguer SP has been a huge disappointment...But the braves got a draft pick from the marlins. If Joey Wentz turns into what his potential is....Braves win the trade.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/26271672/v953450583

 

[Frozenprince]

Mets

Don't know why you're watching tbh. Season's over, should spend that time drinking instead.

 

[baxter2231]

Praying for this game to get rained out. Mets need to step out, prolong some abs and get a few hits to delay if they not gonna score here.

 

[Frozenprince]

Mests and Stankees in a footrace to see who finishes lower.

 

[17 Seconds]

I think the thinking is that at least they got a warm body back who might give them some value. As you said the cash isn't a huge issue, so I think they'd rather take a chance on Kemp giving them something for more money rather than just walking away with nothing.

kemp is so bad, though. even if you ignore the money, he shouldn't really be starting. to take an even worse contract seems weird. olivera was a sunk cost, no sense making the situation worse.

 

[GK86]

Lots of face-planting going on in this game.

 

[Windu]

kemp is so bad, though. even if you ignore the money, he shouldn't really be starting. to take an even worse contract seems weird. olivera was a sunk cost, no sense making it worse.

Looks like the money isn't any different for the braves. So basically they just got a better player in kemp for the same money they were paying Olivera.

 

[Frozenprince]

Lots of face-planting going on in this game.

Watching Story makes me pine for Rosario.

A SS with good range and excellent speed?

Hope he's alright.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Mets are going to be swept by the Rockies.

Best team in baseball the last 3 weeks

 

[Frozenprince]

Best team in baseball the last 3 weeks

Honestly, I think if they make an out of nowhere deal for just SOME pitching, they'll make the 2nd WC.

That offense is ridiculous.

 

[17 Seconds]

Looks like the money isn't any different for the braves. So basically they just got a better player in kemp for the same money they were paying Olivera.

i thought the pads were only eating 10-12 million. how much is olivera owed?

 

[sf2fanatic]

Honestly, I think if they make an out of nowhere deal for just SOME pitching, they'll make the 2nd WC.

That offense is ridiculous.

They had Pomeraz. But he was no good there

 

[Frozenprince]

A STOLEN BASE?

WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?

Wait nevermind.

Back to drinking.

 

[Original Famous Ray]

What was Ruggiano thinking? Why is he on this team?

 

[Frozenprince]

What was Ruggiano thinking? Why is he on this team?

Because they are desperate for bodies and Dilson Herrera must NEVER play. Plus he's hurt now so.

 

[Windu]

i thought the pads were only eating 10-12 million. how much is olivera owed?

They are eating Oliver's contract 30 mil. And sending the braves 12 mil.

 

[DireStr8s]

A STOLEN BASE?

WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?

Wait nevermind.

Back to drinking.

Cheers!

 

[RBH]

i thought the pads were only eating 10-12 million. how much is olivera owed?

Hector Olivera is owed $28.5 million from 2017 to 2020. Matt Kemp is owed $54 million from 2017 to 2019. Reports indicate the Padres will send $10-12 million to Atlanta.

That means, assuming the money is spread out evenly through the next three years, the Braves will pay Kemp about $5 million more per year than they would be paying Olivera. Kemp will be paid $14.5 million by the Braves, $4M by San Diego and $3.5M by the Dodgers, who sent money over in their 2014 trade with the Padres.

Is Kemp worth the additional $5 million in 2017, 2018 and 2019?

http://www.talkingchop.com/2016/7/30/12333990/matt-kemp-trade-braves-padres-hector-olivera-reaction



For $5 million/year, I say yes, Kemp is worth it, all things considered.

 

[GK86]

What was Ruggiano thinking? Why is he on this team?

They wanted someone that makes de Aza look good.

 

[17 Seconds]

They are eating Oliver's contract 30 mil. And sending the braves 12 mil.

isn't that a difference of like 10 million? not as bad as i thought, but still a lot.

 

[detectiveconan1]

Yeah Rea is definitely having Tommy John surgery. He didn't seem like he was in severe pain, but he had a decent drop in velo.

Fuck.

 

[Windu]

http://www.talkingchop.com/2016/7/30/12333990/matt-kemp-trade-braves-padres-hector-olivera-reaction



For $5 million/year, I say yes, Kemp is worth it, all things considered.

ah so it's 5 million more per year. So braves are taking on a little money. Still, better player and maybe they can flip him if he rebounds. And they get out of the contract sooner, Olivera was signed longer.

 

[Silver Arrows]

i approve

 

[Original Famous Ray]

Ruggiano is a special player.

 

[Choomp]

Lmfao dafuq is going on?

 

[baxter2231]

Having colon on short rest was a brilliant idea !

 

[Silver Arrows]

Lmfao dafuq is going on?

Lemme guess, Mestsing?

 

[17 Seconds]

http://www.talkingchop.com/2016/7/30/12333990/matt-kemp-trade-braves-padres-hector-olivera-reaction



For $5 million/year, I say yes, Kemp is worth it, all things considered.

i see. kemp isn't worth 5 mil a year (he's at 1.7 wins over the last 4 seasons) and probably shouldn't even be starting, but at least he isn't a piece of shit like olivera.

our of curiosity, why did olivera get suspended 82 games and chapman only got 30 games? i haven't really been paying much attention to MLB's policies.

 

[Windu]

Here we go:

Considering Braves get $10.5 from #Padres to offset Kemp's $64.5M deal,and subtract Olivera's $28.5M, #Braves paying 8.5M per year for Kemp

https://twitter.com/bnightengale/status/759561299315470336

 

[Frozenprince]

Having colon on short rest was a brilliant idea !

Starting a 43 year old who's said repeatedly that he dislikes playing in heat on short rest was a bad idea?

Shocking.

 

[Choomp]

Lemme guess, Mestsing?

Justin Ruggiano just killed an inning w a caught stealing made an error that cost a run and then fell down within like ten minutes

 

[Silver Arrows]

Starting a 43 year old who's said repeatedly that he dislikes playing in heat on short rest was a bad idea?

Shocking.

The king should not be treated like this.

Justin Ruggiano just killed an inning w a caught stealing made an error that cost a run and then fell down within like ten minutes

so mestsing then

 

[17 Seconds]

Here we go:
https://twitter.com/bnightengale/status/759561299315470336

lot of money for a replacement player. i would have just dumped olivera and eaten the contract if they had no other options. or just kept him. he sucks but there's probably still a better chance of him turning it around than 32 year old kemp.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

i see. kemp isn't worth 5 mil a year (he's at 1.7 wins over the last 4 seasons) and probably shouldn't even be starting, but at least he isn't a piece of shit like olivera.

our of curiosity, why did olivera get suspended 82 games and chapman only got 30 games? i haven't really been paying much attention to MLB's policies.

Chapman fired a gun at a garage ceiling. Olivera actually slugged a woman.

 

[Windu]

i see. kemp isn't worth 5 mil a year (he's at 1.7 wins over the last 4 seasons) and probably shouldn't even be starting, but at least he isn't a piece of shit like olivera.

our of curiosity, why did olivera get suspended 82 games and chapman only got 30 games? i haven't really been paying much attention to MLB's policies.

They havent released many details on it. Some altercation at the hotel in VA when in town for the nationals.

 

[17 Seconds]

Chapman fired a gun at a garage ceiling. Olivera actually slugged a woman.

the allegation against chapman included that he choked her.

 

[TheGamingBox]

the tigers really kept verlander in for the 9th? they are going to get burned

edit: and i was right

 

[Frozenprince]