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MLB Off-season Thread 2015-2016 IOTI Back to the Future was a lie
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Frozenprince
Banned
Why not? Dilson Herrera is a good 2B prospect and Wilmer is a good player. We need to get a CF, a table setter for the clean-up/three hole, then worry about the BP (which is a crapshoot with signing guys anyway).
lazybones18
Banned
Mark should stay on MLBN
MultiJhonny
Banned
forreal. I actually love Dero
Carpe Libertatem
Member
Does that have more or less letters than Marc "Scrabble" Rzepczynski?
I think it might actually be more.
I'm still kind of in "win now" mode. If we're definitely rolling with those two then maybe we keep Uribe to try and ease in Herrera and see how that goes. Definitely need a bat this offseason though, either way.
Also, grats to Aramis Ramirez on a great career. I remember liking him back in his Cubbies days
Dominican Power
Member
Dude has a sub .300 OBP. That's not good at all and he can't play defense. He's only good for your occasional home run.
CosmicQueso
Member
You can't judge a player who's only 21 on his big league potential based on two cups of major league coffee.
Dude has a .369 OBP in 5 minor league seasons with an OPS of .839 with some pop. Hell, the kid has only played in 81 AAA games.
Derek Jeter's OBP was only .294 when he came up with the Yankees in '95.
Dominican Power
Member
Minor league numbers don't mean shit. And Flores is 24. Derek Jeter had 54 plate appearances his rookie year. Wilmer has a season's worth.
CosmicQueso
Member
I thought you were talking about Herrera.
And of course minor league numbers are meaningful. Give me a break.
Dominican Power
Member
You take them with a grain of salt.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Maybe I'm crazy but I'm a big Aaron Hicks fan. I'm gonna have to dig into his numbers but seems like worth a try at CF
Man let's be reall, we need pretty much everything lol
DH is pretty good!
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Time for you guys to sign Lincecum and bring him home!
Bring back the smoak monster!
chicagocubsfan
Member
Trading Castillo for Trumbo might have been one of the worst trades last year.
If you had to guess, realistically, what's the minimum time it takes the Mariners to get into the playoffs next?
Mr. Enigma
Member
Most and Least Valuable players of each team according to FanGraphs WAR.
Bryce Harper lead MLB with 9.5 WAR, while Pablo Sandoval and Victor Martinez scrapped the bottom with -2.0 WAR.
Bryce Harper lead MLB with 9.5 WAR, while Pablo Sandoval and Victor Martinez scrapped the bottom with -2.0 WAR.
Code:
Cardinals (100-62)
Jason Heyward 6.0
Pete Kozma -0.6
Pirates (98-64)
Andrew McCutchen 5.8
Andrew Lambo -0.6
Cubs (97-65)
Jake Arrieta 7.3
Arismendy Alcantara -0.4
Jonathan Herrera
Royals (95-67)
Lorenzo Cain 6.6
Jeremy Guthrie -0.9
Omar Infante
Blue Jays (93-69)
Josh Donaldson 8.7
Matt Boyd -0.4
Ryan Tepera
Dodgers (92-70)
Clayton Kershaw 8.6
Jim Johnson -0.3
Brandon McCarthy
Joel Peralta
Chin-hui Tsao
Mets (90-72)
Jacob deGrom 5.2
Alex Torres -0.6
Rangers (88-74)
Adrian Beltre 4.6
Tanner Scheppers -0.6
Yankees (87-75)
Michael Pineda 3.5
Gregorio Petit -0.6
Jose Pirela
Astros (86-76)
Dallas Keuchel 6.1
Robbie Grossman -0.3
Angels (85-77)
Mike Trout 9.0
Matt Joyce -1.4
Giants (84-78)
Buster Posey 5.7
Jeremy Affeldt -0.8
Nationals (83-79)
Bryce Harper 9.5
Tyler Moore -0.9
Twins (83-79)
Brian Dozier 3.4
Danny Santana -1.4
Indians (81-80)
Corey Kluber 5.5
Mike Aviles -0.9
Orioles (81-81)
Manny Machado 6.8
Gerardo Parra -0.8
Rays (80-82)
Kevin Kiermaier 5.5
James Loney -1.3
Diamondbacks (79-83)
Paul Goldschmidt 7.4
Chris Owings -1.4
Red Sox (78-84)
Mookie Betts 4.8
Pablo Sandoval -2.0
Mariners (76-86)
Nelson Cruz 4.8
James Jones -1.0
White Sox (76-86)
Chris Sale 6.2
Adam LaRoche -1.4
Tigers (74-87)
J.D. Martinez 5.0
Victor Martinez -2.0
Padres (74-88)
Tyson Ross 4.4
Frank Garces -0.9
Marlins (71-91)
Dee Gordon 4.6
Donovan Solano -1.0
Athletics (68-94)
Sonny Gray 3.8
Fernando Abad -0.7
Billy Butler
Craig Gentry
Brewers (68-94)
Ryan Braun 2.8
Luis Sardinas -0.8
Rockies (68-94)
Nolan Arenado 4.5
Daniel Descalso -1.1
Braves (67-95)
Freddie Freeman 3.4
Shelby Miller
Jonny Gomes -0.6
Eric Young Jr.
Reds (64-98)
Joey Votto 7.4
Brennan Boesch -1.4
Phillies (63-99)
Odubel Herrera 3.9
Cody Asche -1.1Frozenprince
Banned
Karns is a good pitcher. The Mariners are doing exactly what they need to do, sell on youngish players that aren't playing to potential for long term assets. It's a rebuild.
Rando you guys are fine, Karns was in the ROY race for a long time, Riefenhauser is a throw in, Powell is a 22 Y/O OF in AAA with a nice swing and great speed, he'll be in the majors this year.
It's a nice deal. Karns is the biggest piece and has a ton of potential. Mid-90's heat, knuckle-curve with sweeping action, passable change (seriously the Rays and teaching everybody like 3 change-ups). Nice pitcher. Solid long term #3. Brad Miller will never play in the OF where they're trying to shift him, with Marte and Taylor he has no real value to the Mariners.
Rando you guys are fine, Karns was in the ROY race for a long time, Riefenhauser is a throw in, Powell is a 22 Y/O OF in AAA with a nice swing and great speed, he'll be in the majors this year.
It's a nice deal. Karns is the biggest piece and has a ton of potential. Mid-90's heat, knuckle-curve with sweeping action, passable change (seriously the Rays and teaching everybody like 3 change-ups). Nice pitcher. Solid long term #3. Brad Miller will never play in the OF where they're trying to shift him, with Marte and Taylor he has no real value to the Mariners.
Frozenprince
Banned
Torii Hunter is an asshole bigoted fuckwit.
It needed to be said. The Twins will be good if they get more in that rotation. But Torii Hunter shouldn't ever be celebrated.
Purple Cheeto
Member
Mariners get a starting pitcher, a steroid user and a loogy for a crappy first baseman, a displaced short stop and a reliever who used to be good.
Edit: DiPoto says Karns will immediately go into the Mariners rotation. So unless they pass on Kuma they won't be going after any other starters.
Edit: DiPoto says Karns will immediately go into the Mariners rotation. So unless they pass on Kuma they won't be going after any other starters.
Are you trying to tell me that in a trade between the Mariners and the Rays, the Mariners... won? What a time to be alive.
Yeah, fuck Torii Hunter forever and ever. I'm glad he's gone so I can watch the team and not feel disgusting about it!
The rotation is awful. They need like 3 pitchers. Too bad they have so much dead money tied up in mediocre starters. They need to say fuck it and sign Zimmerman anyway.
BFIB
Member
I cannot wait for Lambtrons response.
Frozenprince
Banned
I still can't believe you guys are relying on Pelf for meaningful innings. That's what doomed you right there.
Now I can't laugh at rando
Just picking the lesser of two evils.
detectiveconan1
Member
Why would the Rays waste Nate Kurns for Logan Morrison and Brad Miller? Is this their idea of improving the lineup?
Frozenprince
Banned
Ignoring his racism against Dominican and LA Black players. Or the time he berated a reporter constantly just for asking him basic questions.
Or what he said about being teammates with a gay player just one year ago.
They probably want to try and make Miller into their next 4WAR utl infielder.
That was the dumbest controversy ever. And that reporter is a known asshole.
Frozenprince
Banned
Dude. I respect what Murphy did in the playoffs but I still think he's a bigoted idiot.
A player you like is a bigot. Just accept it. Stop trying to justify his bigotry because you like the ballplayer.
I'm not justifying it I'm just saying one bad opinion doesn't wash away every other good thing he's done. He's a bigot but hopefully that changes.
Purple Cheeto
Member
Well Brad Miller has decent upside as an offensive SS but he has questions about his arm accuracy so who knows. Logan Morrison is nothing and Farquhar hasn't been good in awhile.
I dunno it's not really clearly good for either side.
David Cameron is bad at predicting things.
Brad Miller is still the best shortstop in the AL right?
Stop the charade. Brad Miller isn't just the starting shortstop, he could be a future superstar. Not star. Super. Star