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[Carpe Libertatem]

Cards are interested in Chris Davis. Already started discussions with Boras
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...ree-agency-hot-stove-baltimore-orioles-112015

I mean, it would be dumb of Mo to not call Boras given the 1B situation just to feel it out. Given Boras's love of leaking stuff out to be bigger than it really is I'm sure that's all it was :lol

At the price Davis is going to command I am totally certain the Cardinals won't sign Davis

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

???

EDIT: this dude is 6'1 150? Holy lmao

He's one of those middle infield prospects that scouts overrate and does nothing to improve your ball club.

 

[BigAT]

So did anything ever happen with that Cardinals/Astros hacking thing or are they still in the investigative process? I feel like that kind of went away quietly a couple of weeks after it was announced.

 

[Purple Cheeto]

???

EDIT: this dude is 6'1 150? Holy lmao

Flores is hurt and won't be ready for the season and out of options. Sardinas is a cheap utility guy who will mostly just sit on the bench in Tacoma.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

So did anything ever happen with that Cardinals/Astros hacking thing or are they still in the investigative process? I feel like that kind of went away quietly a couple of weeks after it was announced.

Nothing will happen until the FBI is done with their investigation

I bet nothing really happens besides a fine, though. Cardinals already fired the person responsible

 

[CygnusXS]

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro 8m8 minutes ago
Jose Fernandez #Marlins today said about rumors: "I really don't have no time to look into that stuff. It's not important to me."

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro 7m7 minutes ago
Jose Fernandez added Scott Boras will be part of his innings discussions. #Marlins

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro 6m6 minutes ago
Jose: "I don't know what all this is all about, but Scott Boras will be there because he's my agent, and I decide who is going to be ..."

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro 5m5 minutes ago
Jose: "... on my phone calls on my conference. It's that simple." #Marlins

Boras clients, man.

 

[Malo]

Tigers acquire Cameron Maybin.

 

[detectiveconan1]

‏@Braves
Braves acquire LHPs Ian Krol and Gabe Speier from the Detroit Tigers in exchange for OF Cameron Maybin and cash considerations

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[brianjones]

give the braves all the pitchers

 

[BFIB]

Boras clients, man.

Yep, he's awesome at his job, but that's the double edge sword. Putting an innings cap on a pitcher that is feeling OK is ridiculous. But then if owners refuse to play to Boras' demands, and they don't sign his agents, its collusion.

 

[detectiveconan1]

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro 2m2 minutes ago
Every source I've spoken to maintains Jose Fernandez is not being traded. #Marlins

 

[Windu]

Don't know anything about those pitchers but cool. Getting anything for maybin is a plus.

edit: Gabe looks like a good one. And I guess they see something in Ian, cost controlled and MLB ready I guess.

 

[RBH]

Neat, more pitching. Exactly what the Braves needed.

 

[Malvingt2]

More pitchers....

 

[TraBuch]

Why do the Braves always sell low? Maybin's value was higher than it's ever been at the trade deadline but they kept him and let him crater before trading him.

 

[Cheddahz]

The Braves are already about to give me a heart attack

 

[zroid]

Some analyst was saying Jays should forget about signing another free agent pitcher and just get Chris Davis since they need a LHB.

honestly regardless of whether it's actually a good idea, I wouldn't mind it. Can you even imagine the number of dingers they'd hit? Low offensive era? Lolno.

Tigers acquire Cameron Maybin.

Gose

 

[Chris R]

Great fielder. Can't hit worth a shit.

Just what the Mariners need

 

[CygnusXS]

They got a MLB reliever so that they didn't have to buy one, I guess. Whatever.

 

[RBH]

Krol (24 yo)
2015: 28 IP / 5.79 ERA / 26 SO / 1.71 WHIP
Career: 88 IP / 4.91 ERA / 76 SO / 1.58 WHIP

Speier (20 yo) (had Tommy John surgery in 2013)
2015: 44 IP / 2.86 ERA / 36 SO / 1.18 WHIP
Career: 77 IP / 2.34 ERA / 68 SO / 1.05 WHIP

The most valuable asset that the Braves received here would have to be the salary relief. They've got Maybin's contract off of the books now and they also received cash considerations. They'll be saving around $6.5 MM with this deal.

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[RBH]

Mallex Smith future!

 

[Frozenprince]

Speier is a nice RP prospect. Pretty far away, but he's a decent prospect.

 

[BCDAWG7]

Tigers acquire Cameron Maybin.

Solid pickup didn't give up much. Glad to see Krol gone.

 

[zroid]

Jesse Chavez is a Blue Jay... again...

edit: in exchange for Hendriks?! Weird

 

[jbug617]

Jays got Jesse Chavez.

@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #BlueJays acquire #Athletics’ Jesse Chavez.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Jesse Chavez is a Blue Jay... again...

edit: in exchange for Hendriks?! Weird

Uh.... okay?

 

[RBH]

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal

 

[zroid]

Uh.... okay?

Hendriks is the Australian Habs fan. RIP.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Hendriks is the Australian Habs fan. RIP.

FUCK.




Tony didn't like that.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Gonna miss Jesse Chavez, he really learned how to pitch here.

 

[Malvingt2]

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal

Young position players.... wut?

I will believe when I see it

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I swear you're a fan of twenty different teams

Expos/A's. Watch a lot of Rangers and Astros since I live in Texas, just a big fan of baseball. Love my West Coast baseball after dark. Love me some NPB and KBO. Support my Cuban brothers. Just love the sport.

 

[zroid]

Chavez is projected to earn about $5M in arbitration. That... seems like a lot for a 5th starter / swingman whom Toronto didn't really need since they already had cheaper players who could fill that role.

Definitely seems increasingly like they aren't going to be making any big bets in free agency

 

[BigJonsson]

MLB Awards

Donaldson won play of the year - defence (diving into the stands to catch a foul)
Joey Bats won play of the year - offence (bat flip)

 

[Mr. Enigma]

I remember that one half-season Chavez pitched for the Braves in 2010. He was straight-up awful. He was the official White Flag when he came into a game. It's crazy how much better he got.

 

[zroid]

Steamer projects him to be a 2.2 fWAR player. Last year the Jays had a single starter who had a higher fWAR than that: Price.

That's fine but the Jays carried a lot of FIP-beaters last year. It's not like 2 fWAR is that good for a starter whose performance can be measured reliably with FIP.

 

[CygnusXS]

I remember that one half-season Chavez pitched for the Braves in 2010. He was straight-up awful. He was the official White Flag when he came into a game. It's crazy how much better he got.

Didn't we get him as the return for a salary dump of Rafael Soriano?

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Chavez is projected to earn about $5M in arbitration. That... seems like a lot for a 5th starter / swingman whom Toronto didn't really need since they already had cheaper players who could fill that role.

Definitely seems increasingly like they aren't going to be making any big bets in free agency

They will probably sign Chris Davis and Upton then.

 

[CygnusXS]

I feel like every day we hear about some new team that isn't going to spend big in free agency. Somebody has to pay these guys.

 

[zroid]

$5 million for 2.2 fWar is more than fair. That's a 3rd or 4th starter on good teams.

Not saying it's not fair. My point was I thought that role could have been filled internally by say Sanchez, Osuna, or maybe Hutch if they were going to get a free agent starter.

The budget may not have enough room for a $15M+ starter now.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Didn't we get him as the return for a salary dump of Rafael Soriano?

Yep. They signed Billy Wagner and Takashi Saito, thinking Soriano would decline arbitration since he was a Boras guy. But he accepted and they had to dump him to Tampa for Chavez.

 

[CosmicQueso]

I like the trade a lot.

Looking forward to rooting for my Oakland Blue A's in the coming season.

 

[RBH]

 

[Dominican Power]

Chris Davis on The Astros makes all the sense in the world.

 

[zroid]

lol

 

[bonesmccoy]

Not saying it's not fair. My point was I thought that role could have been filled internally by say Sanchez, Osuna, or maybe Hutch if they were going to get a free agent starter.

I guess it takes some pressure off those guys?

Blah, the pitching is going to be all over the place again.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Braves have re-signed David Carpenter. Not the one from last year. The one whose life got ruined by Juan Uribe.

 

[User 479360]

The Chavez trade doesn't make a ton of sense. He's not all that good, and isn't someone you can rely on.

Not a fifth starter on a championship calibre team, but the Jays' brass doesn't seem to care about championships as much as saving money.

Chavez wasn't very good when he pitched for the Jays before, and didn't have a very good season last year either. Hendricks wasn't great for us, either, but he wasn't horrible and seems to have more value than Chavez.

I hope I'm proven wrong, but I don't like it. Seems like a dumb trade.

 

[CygnusXS]

WWAAD?

 

[CosmicQueso]

Not a fifth starter on a championship calibre team

LOL. There are definitely worse 5th starters on WS winning clubs.

The World Series Champion Kansas City Royals featured Guthrie, he of the 5.95 ERA and 1.55 WHIP and gave him 24 starts.

Oh well, the Blue Jays window had to close sometime.