Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Good lord thats alot of money. Have fun with that Dbacks in a few years.
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MLB Off-season Thread 2015-2016 IOTI Back to the Future was a lie
- Thread starter CreeperBlocks
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Because their highest WAR SP was sitting at 1.2 rWAR.
They have an insane offense held back by a terrible pitching staff.
And an insane defense too. Look at Ahmed and Inciarte.
Ahmed - 2.8 dWAR
Inciarte - 2.6 dWAR
and
Pollock - 1.8 dWAR
Goldschmidt - 0.9 dWAR (for first base, what the fuck)
Seriously I'm floored Inciarte was worth that much... that man deserves some publicity
My World Series!!
The winter meetings are going to be interesting.
My World Series!!
Frozenprince
Banned
Seriously I'm floored Inciarte was worth that much... that man deserves some publicity
My World Series!!
A.J. Pollock was the second highest OF in terms of WAR in the NL, nobody even knows who he is outside of diehards like us.
They've got some ridiculous talent on the cheap.
CosmicQueso
Member
So you're Paul Goldschmidt. You were an 8.8 WAR player last year. Over the next three years, you're going to make $26m. Greinke is going to pull that down next year alone. Damn.
Chewie, given their divisions, the Dbacks could very well win more games than the Jays next year. They won 79 games with scotch tape and garbage in the rotation. Robbie Ray and Patrick Corbin were probably their best two starters for chrissakes.
Greinke is the kind of guy that makes clubs winners.
Money over caring about winning. C'mon Chewie, you're better than this.
Greinke = money over caring about winning
Chewie, given their divisions, the Dbacks could very well win more games than the Jays next year. They won 79 games with scotch tape and garbage in the rotation. Robbie Ray and Patrick Corbin were probably their best two starters for chrissakes.
Greinke is the kind of guy that makes clubs winners.
Money over caring about winning. C'mon Chewie, you're better than this.
I love rooting for a team that has a $30 million TV deal.Not that surprising. dbacks have a new billion dollar tv deal.
Still probably better than the braves.I love rooting for a team that has a $30 million TV deal.
Braves deal 20-30 mil until 2031.
A.J. Pollock was the second highest OF in terms of WAR in the NL, nobody even knows who he is outside of diehards like us.
They've got some ridiculous talent on the cheap.
God I love baseball so much, no other sport satisfies this Advanced stat thirst nearly as well lol
Frozenprince
Banned
God I love baseball so much, no other sport satisfies this Advanced stat thirst nearly as well lol
It's probably why we talk about it so much here considering we're all a bunch of geeks.
I love rooting for a team that has a $30 million TV deal.
Still better than Atlanta.
Still probably better than the braves.
Braves deal 20-30 mil until 2031.
Sorry, Pals.Still better than Atlanta.
Twins signed theirs in 2012 so it's around for a long time. They better get Buck and Sano locked up early.
Ah. Well hands off the scraps. They're ours.Sorry, Pals.
Twins signed theirs in 2012 so it's around for a long time. They better get Buck and Sano locked up early.
And yet the only stat anyone ever brings up in this topic is WAR.
(I'm guilty of this too)
Nah it's just the easiest go-to. We've talked wrc, fip, iso, waa, the list goes on
Mariners own their own TV network, we're likely to be a top 10 spender for a while
Isn't Root owned by several entities?
edit : Nvm. Joint Venture between M's and DirectTV. Yet we'll probably still keep our team salary around $130m this season .... what a dumb signing Cano was.
Isn't Root owned by several entities?
Mariners purchased the majority share
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Considering Cashman's comments, I'm calling it now - the Yankees are finishing in last place in the East next year. There's literally nothing that makes them better than any other team in the division, but a whole lot that makes them worse.
Which honestly, I'm fine with. As foreign as the word is to us Yankees fans, this team needs to rebuild. Build up the farm system for 2-3 years, get some top tier prospects that don't hit for the fucking fences every swing as well as get rid of the dead weight that does, and get the next generation of Yankee stars, because it's proven that homegrown talent is what wins championships.
Which honestly, I'm fine with. As foreign as the word is to us Yankees fans, this team needs to rebuild. Build up the farm system for 2-3 years, get some top tier prospects that don't hit for the fucking fences every swing as well as get rid of the dead weight that does, and get the next generation of Yankee stars, because it's proven that homegrown talent is what wins championships.
D-Backs got some serious star power on that squad
EDIT: 7.4 WAR for Pollock, 8.8 WAR from Goldy, 3.7 from Peralta, 2.5 WAR from Ahmed... 5.3 WAR from Inciarte? How the fuck did that get so unnoticed??!?
They have good pieces but can't pitch. Very good defensively and they can run.
Frozenprince
Banned
And yet the only stat anyone ever brings up in this topic is WAR.
(I'm guilty of this too)
I bring up wRC+, ISO, wOBS, stuff like that all the time.
And yet the only stat anyone ever brings up in this topic is WAR.
(I'm guilty of this too)
WAR
HUH
WHAT IS IS GOOD FOR?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Still probably better than the braves.
Braves deal 20-30 mil until 2031.
Im still amazed about your guys tv deal lol
I'm just thankful the Tigers signed Big Pelf so the Twins couldn't!Ah. Well hands off the scraps. They're ours.
Good article about how the Red Sox courted David Price.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...how_the_red_sox_courted_david_price_to_boston
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...how_the_red_sox_courted_david_price_to_boston
Pitch Smart
‏@MLBPitchSmart
35% of parents incorrectly believe overall pitching performance is enhanced following Tommy John surgery.
What the...
CreeperBlocks
Banned
WAR
HUH
WHAT IS IS GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
SAY IT AGAIN YALL
WAR
HUH
GOOD GOD
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
Makes me wanna watch Small Soldiers now
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
SAY IT AGAIN YALL
WAR
HUH
GOOD GOD
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
Makes me wanna watch Small Soldiers now
better movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXtXE2-MaUY
Jayson Stark says D-Backs still aren't done in FA market yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they go hard on Leake, with him being an ASU product.
Supposedly they are interested in Miller. Would make sense as it gives them a legit closer and improves their pitching.
Sir Alemeth
Member
Looooooolllllllllll wow.
NL West 3 way race confirmed.
NL West 3 way race confirmed.
Supposedly they are interested in Miller. Would make sense as it gives them a legit closer and improves their pitching.
I feel like the focus should be on getting one more mid-to-top of the rotation pitcher, then aim for smaller bullpen arms, since Ziegler is excellent at the back end, but I do admit that he's probably better as a general purpose tight situation cleaner than the actual closer. I do like Miller more than those Chapman rumors from earlier, but I know the Yanks are gonna ask for one hell of a return. I feel like with the plethora of position players, especially in the outfield, there's plenty of options for trading. Depending on the offer, Miller would be nice, but it would just be great to see the planets align and a deal work for Sonny Gray or something.
I feel like the focus should be on getting one more mid-to-top of the rotation pitcher, then aim for smaller bullpen arms, since Ziegler is excellent at the back end, but I do admit that he's probably better as a general purpose tight situation cleaner than the actual closer. I do like Miller more than those Chapman rumors from earlier, but I know the Yanks are gonna ask for one hell of a return. I feel like with the plethora of position players, especially in the outfield, there's plenty of options for trading. Depending on the offer, Miller would be nice, but it would just be great to see the planets align and a deal work for Sonny Gray or something.
What would you offer for a Shelby Miller and Arodys Vizcaino package? I know the Braves asked for Pollock and Blair but that's obviously not happening.
sf2fanatic
Member
D Backs still finish in last. Team is snakebit with injuriesLooooooolllllllllll wow.
NL West 3 way race confirmed.
What would you offer for a Shelby Miller and Arodys Vizcaino package? I know the Braves asked for Pollock and Blair but that's obviously not happening.
Yeah definitely not Pollock. I wouldn't get rid of him short of a package for someone like Harvey or Fernandez or Gray, but I reaaally don't think that's happening.
I feel like I'd do Inciarte+Blair for Miller+Vizcaino.
I could live with that, though I think I'd rather grab Jake Lamb, Socrates Brito, and Blair. Brito's probably not a starter but it wouldn't hurt for Atlanta to try him in CF.Yeah definitely not Pollock. I wouldn't get rid of him short of a package for someone like Harvey or Fernandez or Gray, but I reaaally don't think that's happening.
I feel like I'd do Inciarte+Blair for Miller+Vizcaino.
I could live with that, though I think I'd rather grab Jake Lamb, Socrates Brito, and Blair. Brito's probably not a starter but it wouldn't hurt for Atlanta to try him in CF.
See, I would be a terrible GM because there is no fucking way I would ever trade Socrates Brito because of dat name
These were my feelings when Chasen Shreve got sent to the Yankees.See, I would be a terrible GM because there is no fucking way I would ever trade Socrates Brito because of dat name
You can take him back. Just give us manban back.These were my feelings when Chasen Shreve got sent to the Yankees.
Yeah, uhYou can take him back. Just give us manban back.
*shuffles some papers*
I think that's um
*adjusts glasses*
Hey how about a Jose Ramirez?
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Wow at the DBacks.
The best movie.
Only second to 2.
What the...
I guess the stats on the large percentage that never come back from TJ surgery aren't very well known.
And yet the only stat anyone ever brings up in this topic is WAR.
(I'm guilty of this too)
One of the things about following NPB is that there are no publicly available advanced defensive stats, so no WAR calculations, either. On the good side that forces discussion into a lot of other stats like FIP, SecA, etc. On the bad side, gold glove awards and discussion are bit lol, like MLB 15 years ago.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Rosenthal saying that Kevin Pillar would be a good fit for the Cubs. I kinda agree. His defense would help make up for Soler and Schwarber out there.
We really don't have any ML Ready pitching to trade unless we replace Hendricks with someone like Ross or Carrasco. In that case Hendricks could be a pretty decent return.
We really don't have any ML Ready pitching to trade unless we replace Hendricks with someone like Ross or Carrasco. In that case Hendricks could be a pretty decent return.
Teams are mad about the Grienke D-Backs deal.
Also Rosenthal questioning the D-Backs.
@jaysonst: Hearing lots of consternation from other clubs about the Greinke deal. Sources say the Dbacks got almost $80M in revenue sharing last 3 yrs
Also Rosenthal questioning the D-Backs.
@Ken_Rosenthal: How is it that #DBacks traded Touki Toussaint to #Braves in June to purge Arroyos remaining $10.1M - then signed Greinke for $206M?!?!
Ninja Scooter
Member
Also Rosenthal questioning the D-Backs.
Maybe they did the first thing so they could afford to do the 2nd thing?