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MLB Off-season Thread 2015-2016 IOTI Back to the Future was a lie
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Frozenprince
Banned
And the Mets big signing of an impact bat is, DRUMROLL PLEASE!
Alejandro De Aza.
Kill me.
Alejandro De Aza.
Kill me.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Frozenprince
Banned
Didn't even need to click the link before I knew it was Megdal.
The Mets will never be good more than once every 7-10 years until the Wilpon's sell the team. That's just how it's going to be, and I'v accepted that.
The Mets will never be good more than once every 7-10 years until the Wilpon's sell the team. That's just how it's going to be, and I'v accepted that.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Yeah I'm not even sure anymore. It seems like it might be a bit of an overpay, but maybe it's better than I realize or maybe it'll seem better in a few years.
CosmicQueso
Member
Oh thank god.
Frozenprince
Banned
I wouldn't bank on it. Leake is what he is, a definition average pitcher.
Good.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I beg to differ. The MLB average for pitchers hitting is .129/.156/.161. Leake is a .212/.235/.310 hitter.
Checkmate atheists.
I repeat, checkmate atheists.
Thank God.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
No one liked Verducci? Thought he was good.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I liked him, but Verducci had to die so that Harold would die.
A valiant sacrifice.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It's not completely terrible, assuming Lauren Shehadi is still a part of that.
Carpe Libertatem
Member
Leake is such a Cardinals move
Don't like the length (AAV is fine) but he's relatively young and durable. And didn't cost a draft pick
edit: Zips projections for Leake, which are probably a little pessimistic in terms of WAR because Leake is a FIP beater. Contract is pretty safe and average :lol
Don't like the length (AAV is fine) but he's relatively young and durable. And didn't cost a draft pick
edit: Zips projections for Leake, which are probably a little pessimistic in terms of WAR because Leake is a FIP beater. Contract is pretty safe and average :lol
This makes zero fucking sense. All these big time outfielders in the market, why not wait and see if one of them waits too long and has to sign a one year contract?
The Mets continue to fall flat with this "strike early, strike cheap" approach. I mean am I to assume De Aza had to be had now before he got snatched up?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
But Joe Buck is still there.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
we need Matty V and Smoltz. thats the best unit in MLB.
Mr. Enigma
Member
The Cardinals gave Mike Leake $80 million? $16 million AAV?
Carpe Libertatem
Member
The Cardinals gave Mike Leake $80 million? $16 million AAV?
That's about what someone like Mike Leake costs these days. It's not a bargain, but it's not a bad deal. It's a remarkably boring, market-level contract.
(The actual cost is really a little less too, considering other pitchers required giving up a 1st round pick valued at around $5-8m)
You're reminding me of myself having to defend the BJ Upton contract when it was signed. Hopefully you get a better ending.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Indians have released Chris Johnson. They are on the hook for the rest of his contract.
He's making $7.5 million in 2016, $9 million in 2017, and a $10 million 2018 club option with a $1 million buyout.
The Braves took on Nick Swisher and Michael Bourn. Swisher is making $15 million and Bourn is making $14 million in 2016, but both will be free agents after this year.
He's making $7.5 million in 2016, $9 million in 2017, and a $10 million 2018 club option with a $1 million buyout.
The Braves took on Nick Swisher and Michael Bourn. Swisher is making $15 million and Bourn is making $14 million in 2016, but both will be free agents after this year.
Carpe Libertatem
Member
It's certainly possible that Leake falls off a cliff next season, but probably just as possible that he's more 3 WAR than 2-2.5 WAR.
16m is about right for his 50 percentile outcome. Don't like the NTC, though, but it's not that big of a deal
But yeah, not overly excited about the deal :lol kind of a necessity tho
Little Green Yoda
Member
Overpaying Leake is better than overpaying Davis at least? *vomits*
Carpe Libertatem
Member
Fun fact: Mike Leake for his career isn't that different of a hitter than Mike Matheny was
(It still makes me mad that Bourjos got treated so poorly here, when he's literally the CF version of what Matheny was a C)
(It still makes me mad that Bourjos got treated so poorly here, when he's literally the CF version of what Matheny was a C)
Silver Arrows
Banned
Joe Buck is alright.
You know who I hate though? Jim fucking Nantz. Not baseball, I know. But still.
Over or under, White Sox suck more or less than last year? I want to believe in them but I just can't. Sale is the only Ace but seems to burn out later in the season and get lit up. The rest of the staff is average to below average. Offense never scores runs when pitching is working. Bullpen caves all too often. No shortstop and I miss Alexi already despite his decline last few years.
I don't know man. For a team to be good these days you need 3 Ace pitchers and 4 huge bats surrounded by guys who get on base and get hits when needed. A good defense also helps and the Sox just don't impress me enough in any of those spots.
I don't know man. For a team to be good these days you need 3 Ace pitchers and 4 huge bats surrounded by guys who get on base and get hits when needed. A good defense also helps and the Sox just don't impress me enough in any of those spots.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Sox could be good, depends on the Royals Regression and the Twins progression in the Central really.
Silver Arrows
Banned
HarryDemeanor
Member
When you have throwback uniforms like this:
I believe you're always destined for greatness.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Postseason legend Freddy Sanchez officially announced his retirement.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Mr. Enigma
Member
evil solrac v3.0
Member
I always defend Ketchup, but only under the right circumstances. Hot dogs, Burgers, Fries, eggs (scrambled and only sometimes) never on steak and most certainly never on sweets and baked goods. that's just wrong.
17 Seconds
Banned
5/80 for leake is a solid signing by st. louis.
however, i'd be remiss to not use this opportunity to talk about another cardinal acting all high and mighty about the heyward thing.
of course, they are too good for insults, so they frame it in nonsensical terms. it's a "personality thing". okay, adam.
however, i'd be remiss to not use this opportunity to talk about another cardinal acting all high and mighty about the heyward thing.
of course, they are too good for insults, so they frame it in nonsensical terms. it's a "personality thing". okay, adam.
man José Quintana can't even get respect from someone who seems to be a fan :/ (reminds me of Mark Buehrle pre perfect game respect wise as no one ever paid him any attention despite being a well above average pitcher despite having unimpressive stuff)
by WAR quintana was better than Sale last year
only 5 people who had votes for the cy young in the AL had a better WAR than Quintana according to baseball-reference
only two of those were left handers.
also while Carlos Rodon didn't have an amazing rookie season for being rushed to the majors he did fine and was getting better as the season went on. The white sox have more than one above average pitcher
as for the bullpen it was average, but with plenty of young talent, it can easily get better.
Bat wise, well the white sox have already been working on fixing that the the offseason isn't over.
and as for short stop... I say screw it just let tim anderson have the job, his defense is still a little rough but his bat/speed looks MLB ready.
as for the bats never scoring runs when the pitching is working.... well I don't disagree, but I also don't feel I have ever watched a season quite like last season. The white sox really should have ended up with a better record last year. Even ignoring like half of the starting staff having career worst years, I can't recall every watching a team that constantly shifted what was working without ever having anything line up aside from two separate one week periods. The bats came to life and suddenly pitching wasn't working at all, the moment pitching started locking down things the bats vanished, and if against all odds both were working suddenly the team would make like 5 errors. It was super odd watching a team that was constantly in a random different funk. I am not saying the team was amazing, but it was better than it ended up being. I am wondering if chemistry is out of wack because robin doesn't know how to lead things properly.
as for next season, I feel like they will compete for the top of the division, but a lot of that is expecting the white sox to move some of their pitching talent to get another bat, or signing alex gorden. I'm just hoping against all odds they move Danks to a long relief position as one of the top white sox pitching youngsters can't be any worse lol (plus he is the lefty that would be best to move as he isn't part of the long term plans like sale, rodon, and quintana)
chicagocubsfan
Member
Salty Wainwright is fantastic. Him throwing a 1st pitch meatball to Soler was so great.5/80 for leake is a solid signing by st. louis.
however, i'd be remiss to not use this opportunity to talk about another cardinal acting all high and mighty about the heyward thing.
of course, they are too good for insults, so they frame it in nonsensical terms. it's a "personality thing". okay, adam.
