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MLB - Official 2012 Season Thread: Bringing in Bobby V to Change Our Culture |OT2|
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Yeah what? Tommy Joseph is a freaking crazy get for Hunter Pence. Makings of a Wheeler - Beltran all over again. Even if thats the only player the Phillies got they'd win that deal, but it looks like there is more if there is a deal in the first place.
jaysonst
Sources say Giants are NOT trading Gary Brown, Brandon Belt or RHP Kyle Crick to Phila. for Pence. Deal is pending one more physical
So it looks like the Giants are trading another player too.
He also "confirmed" that the Dodgers had traded Lee for Garza last week.
Mr. Enigma
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So the Phillies traded three top 10 prospects to the Astros for two half-seasons of Hunter Pence.
lulz.
lulz.
Lucky for them Cosart and Zeid are garbagio this year.
Yeah but...Singleton. Sigh...
AbortedWalrusFetus
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I think Joseph is a good pickup for sure, but thinking about what they gave up for Pence in the first place definitely makes it more painful.
Mr. Enigma
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Rumors going around that the Diamondbacks are going hard for Cliff Lee.
yankeehater
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I think the Pence deal was a great deal. The playoffs are always a crap shoot but he help get them there and there is no way to know if any of those guys will ever be good. I hate that they are trading Pence away for prospects now. I would have rather he played here next year and then left for nothing.
Justin Upton. The Victorino and Pence trades leaves spots open.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...diamondbacks-felix-hernandez-cliff-lee-073012
yankeehater
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Yay! no way would I trade Lee for Upton. That would have been a terrible trade.
Mr. Enigma
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Nate Schierholz also going to the Phillies in the Pence deal.
Phillies should try and trade him to the Dodgers
The Frankman
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errr... I think I'd rather have Rob Johnson.
Also apparently a number of teams are still interested in Scott Hairston. Mets are listening to offers but aren't really looking to deal him unless
yankeehater
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If a team would give us something for him I would be amazed.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Why? He's a pretty decent player. I honestly have no idea what the Giants are doing.
Mr. Enigma
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Schierholz requested a trade yesterday because he was upset with his lack of playing time.
I don't think we're going to be acquiring a big bat. Apparently we're focused on adding bench and bullpen help.
The Frankman
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You mean outside of trading away the MLB version of Kwa-may Brown to the Blue Jays?
Mr. Enigma
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Bob Nightengale saying the Yankees have jumped in on the Ryan Dempster talks.
Diamondbacks pitching prospect Patrick Corbin has been scratched from his scheduled AAA start today. They are reportedly close to acquiring Matt Garza.
Hunter Pence trade is official. Giants get OF Hunter Pence. Phillies get OF Nate Schierholz, C Tommy Joseph, and RHP Seth Rosen.
Diamondbacks pitching prospect Patrick Corbin has been scratched from his scheduled AAA start today. They are reportedly close to acquiring Matt Garza.
Hunter Pence trade is official. Giants get OF Hunter Pence. Phillies get OF Nate Schierholz, C Tommy Joseph, and RHP Seth Rosen.
Only to be replaced by the MLB version of Smush Parker (Daniel "No Relation" McCutchen was called up to replace Lincoln in the bullpen)
Do not want.
Mr. Enigma
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Heyman reporting Dempster has told the Cubs he will waive his no-trade for the Yankees...
Corran Horn
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We get pence and didn't trade belt or brown? Sweet. Stuck at work so can't see details 
Dominican Power
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Yankees are just trolling. They don't want Ryan Dumpster.
We get pence and didn't trade belt or brown? Sweet. Stuck at work so can't see details
Pence for Nate Schierholtz, Seth Rosin, and Tommy Joseph.
I wonder what the Phillies are going to do with all those Pence bobbleheads they were planning on giving away Aug. 21st.
rofl.. we just traded some a fucking way. also id rather be crazy than delusional for a AAAA guy mlb-age. I wonder if Justin Wilson is close to come up to help the bullpen. I know he's a starter now but thats not his future.
You're delusional. Tommy Joseph is an average catching prospect. The guy is hitting .260 with 8 jacks this year in AA. Big deal. The giants already have one of the best young catchers in the game, and a backup in Hector Sanchez who can flat out hit. Nate Schierholtz is a 4th outfielder at best, and that's being generous. Great fielder, but worthless in AT&T park from a hitting standpoint. You are honestly upset that we gave up those 2 players and a pitcher nobody has even heard of, for a potential all star caliber player in Pence, who is under control next year? This isn't even close to the Beltran deal. We kept Gary Brown, Joe Panik, Kyle Crick and Brandon Belt and actually got cash from the Phillies as well. This is a complete win for the Giants any way you look at it. You are fucking insane if you think otherwise.
The Frankman
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Only you think it was a bad deal. That's not a good sign for your argument.
Have you seen MLBTradeRumors Comments section?
Fangraphs: Did Alex Anthopolous Just Make a Bad Trade?
yankeehater
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The Giants got a fucking steal, Pence is a really good player, he is only having a down year because they batted him 4th early in the year. His numbers have been up ever since they moved him back to 5th.
Holy poop. You traded a bullpen arm for someone with monster potential.
Relievers are a dime a god damn dozen. Need a closer? Take a failed starter, get a closer!
As a deal, both sides got decent players.
Would you rather judge em based on their looks and if they party?
yankeehater
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People use BA to hype up prospects all the time, there is nothing wrong with using it against a guy. I dont care what numbers any prospect has, because most will bust no matter what they do in the minors.
Meh i'm not saying him hitting .260 is indicative of the type of player he could turn into, but when you already have Buster Posey and Hector Sanchez blocking him, Tommy Joseph is completely fucking expendable. Especially when the alternative is giving up Gary Brown, Joe Panik, Kyle Crick, or Brandon Belt who all have tremendous upside.
True, but he loves to troll in order to drive the price up, even on something he's not interested in. Basically what the Yankees are doing with Dempster.
BaltimoreLarry
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I've been playing on Baseball Reference for the last hour, and the most interesting thing I learned is that in 2002, Junior Spivey finished in 14th for the NL MVP vote.
Scouting and projection?
The Frankman
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I don't blame you on Zach Cox, but Mujica would mean you have to had watched the Padres or the Marlins in the last 3-4 years.I don't know either of those players
yeah... SHAME ON YOU.
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