I thought it was bitches get stitches but apparently they get free passes.
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MLB Offseason '13-'14 |OT| Where the best fans live
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No...just no. He handled himself quite well during his time in the AL East, that's why I wanted him. He could've been a really solid No. 4 starter.
As do I but I don't want to be burned by him again :/
Careful, can't lose council members.
slightconfuse
Banned
Is tanaka going to be 3rd? In the rotation
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Cashman said Tanaka's ceiling is a number 3 starter.
Dominican Power
Member
You have a mod on your council (Y2Kev). He'll keep the group intact. The rest of us aren't so fortunate.
Mr. Enigma
Member
I thought that was a pretty silly thing to say publicly considering they gave him the 5th-largest contract for a pitcher in MLB history.
Actually I think he can be a low end number 2 starter.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
yea man, that comment did not make sense. maybe he's way of saying this shit went above me.
If I get banned it was nice serving the council and mlb GAF is truly best GAF.
*salutes*
That was Cash trying to temeper expectations. They definitely view him as a number 2 going forward.
I wouldn't put too much weight into these labels.
Supposedly he dropped the weight too fast in the past without actually building muscle and getting his strength back. Looks like he changed it up this offseason.
Also his weight loss could have been messing up with his release point and hopefully he is more comfortable pitching at his new weight.
He is not getting younger and he has lots of innings on his arm but I expect him to be better this season.
I look at his potential outside of labels for the most part as there are tiers within tiers when looking at what a #1 or #2 is.
I doubt the Yanks are going to be really awful. The team has some questions but it should not be compared to the team from last season.
Why would the BJ's be that much better this year?
They can't be any worse with the team they are fielding! If most of their pieces even play up to their seasonal averages they should be in the mix for the second wild card or better.
EDIT: They basically had a less severe version of what happened to the 2012 Sox. Less injured, slightly better manager.
The Sox were able to fall back on cutting obscene amounts of alcohol and Popeye's from their diets, hopefully for the BJs there is some canadian equivalent of that (tim hortons???).
DoktorEvil
Banned
That bothers me that the Yankees dropped starter money for 1 really good year against non-MLB talent...
All these signings, the Yankees are going to have a shit year.
The key is really Beltran and Ellsbury, that outfield has to gel.
And with Jeter leaving, who will lead?
One really good year? He had more than that and 2013 was not even his best season.
Yeah, and they mean different things for different teams as well. Just as replacement level varies team-to-team.
DoktorEvil
Banned
http://www.baseball-reference.com/japan/player.cgi?id=tanaka003mas
You are correct, but that was Japanese hitting.
MLB is a whole 'nother monster, and he hasn't thrown a pitch officially on US soil, yet that makes him worth $175 mil?
What about the money dropped on Beltran, McCann, and Ellsbury? Throw on Arods contract too.
He got paid what the market was willing to give him. It's not like the Yanks outbid themselves several times to land him. It's a risk but considering the state of the Yankees young pitching and the increasing amount of extensions that are being signed it was what they had to do.
McCann's deal is pretty good, Beltran I would rather see on 2 years, and Ellsbury was a deal I was never really happy with but could be OK if he stays healthy.
If Ellsbury actually hits Oliver's projection over the next 5 years and you value 1 WAR at $6M right now he would come close to earning his deal through the first 5 years. Steamer seems to think he will be a bit better than that.
I would be shocked if they didn't lead the league in days lost to the DL again.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
we should negotiate a peace, are you for mustard or ketchup?
can you give me the link?
people slung insults at each other and made themselves extremely insular there. as much as some may think, these community topics are about including everyone and not just those with inside baseball knowledge.
Dominican Power
Member
Well, new people rarely post there because these threads are not in the OT anymore.
I just found out. Damn. I dunno how I feel about it.
Close your eyes and hope for the best.
In other news, the Reds and Homer Bailey are rumoured to be close on a 6-year, $100mm+ extension. I'll wait for the final numbers, but that seems excessive for Bailey.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
No it isn't. 2 no hitters in as many years. The kid has been getting progressively better year by year. 6 years is a great time frame to keep him while he's continually elevating his game. Really hope this works out.
Mr. Enigma
Member
A.J. Burnett's deal with the Phillies has a $15 million 2015 mutual option that can become a $7.5 million player option if the Phillies decline the mutual option.
It looks like 90M over 5 years is the new money since he is in his final year of arbitration. Considering the price for pitchers and 1 WAR being around 6M it does not look too bad.
I guess they think his last two seasons are indicative of what he will do through his prime.
Oliver has him at:
2.5
2.7
2.7
2.5
2.5
over the next 5 years. If he lives up to that or surpasses it, it will be a good deal for the Reds.
I would have no problem with that AAV, I'm just not a fan of guaranteeing the age 29-33 seasons (his first five free agency years) to a pitcher, let alone to one who's thrown over 200 innings only twice in his career (edit) and who had shoulder problems in 2010 and 2011.
Gucci Messiah
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I've been ignoring a lot of the insults being thrown my way for what happened in the NBA thread but I'm going to have to ask you to stop calling me a bitch, you don't even fully understand the situation at hand. This place isn't a prison, it's a video game message board; the whole 'snitches get stitches' mentality needs to stop. Nobody should have to deal with abuse on the site and moderators are here to enforce the community guidelines when a problem can't be resolved between members.
Once again, I'm not coming into your community thread to start an argument, just asking that you refrain from being offensive. I'm not going to a moderator or 'snitching,' this is me asking you to stop.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
I wasn't 'flipping out' or 'talking shit' and any reasonable person with an objective viewpoint could see that.
After a user with a history of taunting me hurled an unprovoked insult my way, I asked him to stop. In response the guy essentially laughed in my face so I turned to a moderator for assistance, otherwise nothing was going to change. This wasn't a one time 'oh he made fun of me I'm going to tell on him' type of thing either, there had been a pattern of misconduct. I didn't even ask for a ban, a moderator came into the thread telling everyone to be a little more civil and all heck broke loose. I had nothing to do with the bannings or de-modding, those people brought it on themselves through their comments and actions. You can question if appropriate action was taken but don't blame me for the outcome.
There are so many other contributing factors to what went on in that thread and led to the mass bannings/lock you don't even realize. I'm well aware that rumors and one side of the story has been spreading through IRC chat rooms and via friends of the people who were banned here. It seems like many people have bunkered down and formed an opinion that won't be changed so I'm not going to sit here and crap up your thread, or any other sports related OT, trying to argue about it.
If anyone has questions or wants to start a dialogue, feel free to PM me, I'm more than willing to have a civil conversation. Otherwise I would appreciate not being called a 'bitch' or 'snitch' because it's offensive and needs to stop. Like I said before, Neogaf is not a penitentiary, it's a video game forum. The whole prison yard mentality of 'snitches get stitches' needs to end because frankly it's ridiculous.
This is the last message I'll leave in your thread, carry on.
The communities pretty much are penitentiaries. Go check the NFL thread.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Welp. Time to abort this thread for about 24 hours.
Ya, I would rather give that extension to Latos, and I'm a huge Bailey fan.
Every single deal that goes in excess of 70 million makes me hug mccutchens 6 yr 51 deal