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[dmag1223]

Reds have signed Bailey to a six year extension. Looks to be around $100 mil.

I'm okay with this. The guy is a solid #2 starter. Wonder what this means for Latos though?

 

[vas_a_morir]

I'm okay with this. The guy is a solid #2 starter. Wonder what this means for Latos though?

We're pitching rich. That "#1 #2 #3" shit is something only a guy like Dusty would value.

Look, Bailey is good. I'd call him top of the order. Overpaid? Not in the new MLB. 5 years ago, yeah.

Who knows about Latos, though. How many more years does he have?

 

[BFIB]

We're pitching rich. That "#1 #2 #3" shit is something only a guy like Dusty would value.

Look, Bailey is good. Overpaid? Not in the new MLB. 5 years ago, yeah.

In 2 or 3 years Bailey's contract could look like a steal.

 

[vas_a_morir]

In 2 or 3 years Bailey's contract could look like a steal.

God, I hope so. Small markets can't bounce back from bad gambles like big market teams.

 

[dmag1223]

We're pitching rich. That "#1 #2 #3" shit is something only a guy like Dusty would value.

Look, Bailey is good. Overpaid? Not in the new MLB. 5 years ago, yeah.

Ya, I know. I was wondering if we were going to have enough cash to sign Latos long term.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Ya, I know. I was wondering if we were going to have enough cash to sign Latos long term.

Lol, you must have had the reply window open for a while, I addressed that immediately after posting.

 

[dmag1223]

Lol, you must have had the reply window open for a while, I addressed that immediately after posting.

Yep, my bad.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Yep, my bad.

I sometimes forget how young Latos is. If I had to bet, I'd say he's gone after his contact is up.

But, I at least enjoy having a team with old-faces on it. It's why I can't stand UK basketball, because I don't give a shit about any of these players.

 

[dmag1223]

Just my gut feeling, but I think we extend Latos. Especially if he has a good season again. Of course, that means cutting bait with Chapman and Cueto.

 

[3N16MA]

Either that or they expect salaries to continue to rise steadily. ~$20M AAV doesn't provide a lot of surplus value even at $7M/win for a 3 WAR player. But the team is assuming the injury risk for 5 additional years.

Plus, that $7M/win figure is for free agents, not players still a year away from free agency.

I posted his 5 year projection a page or two back. If he pitches at that level or slightly above it the contract is not a big win for the Reds in terms of surplus but it's also not a bad one.

Bailey was going to pull at least a 5 year deal in FA and if he matches or improves on his 2013 he was going to get somewhere around 100M+. Reds must think his last two seasons are indicative of what he will do moving forward.

There is also less leverage for the Reds after Bailey posted back to back improving seasons and is one year out from FA.

 

[Jubs]

Freddie Gonzalez contract extension.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

I posted his 5 year projection a page or two back. If he pitches at that level or slightly above it the contract is not a big win for the Reds in terms of surplus but it's also not a bad one.

Bailey was going to pull at least a 5 year deal in FA and if he matches or improves on his 2013 he was going to get somewhere around 100M+. Reds must think his last two seasons are indicative of what he will do moving forward.

There is also less leverage for the Reds after Bailey posted back to back improving seasons and is one year out from FA.

Paying market rate for a player who isn't a free agent is bad business in the long run. There's always a non-zero chance for an injury (especially for pitchers) before the current contract expires so contract extensions typically give the team a discount in exchange for taking on that health risk. That discount is virtually non-existent in this case if the price/WAR doesn't increase or if Bailey doesn't become better than a ~3 fWAR player.

Unless salaries go up significantly again next offseason, I don't know that Bailey would've gotten more money as a free agent if he basically repeats his 2013 season in 2014. Especially if the Reds gave him a qualifying offer to suppress his value.

 

[Friggz]

Probably one of my favorite baseball facts/stats ive ever read.

Derek Jeter has played in 2602 games in his career. In that time, he has played on only 1 game where the yankees were mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs.

Mariano has pitched in 2 games.

That seems impossible.

 

[Windu]

Probably one of my favorite baseball facts/stats ive ever read.

Derek Jeter has played in 2602 games in his career. In that time, he has played on only 1 game where the yankees were mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs.

Mariano has pitched in 2 games.

That seems impossible.

sooo jeter is a sore loser.

 

[Friggz]

sooo jeter is a sore loser.

hardly =P

 

[Lambtron]

Apparently the Phillies reported to the NCAA that a player they didn't sign used an agent. Wow.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...gned-draft-pick-in-to-ncaa-for-using-an-agent

 

[JABEE]

I don't understand what the Phillies gain from doing that.

Seems really stupid.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Apparently the Phillies reported to the NCAA that a player they didn't sign used an agent. Wow.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...gned-draft-pick-in-to-ncaa-for-using-an-agent

They also turned in their 6th round pick, Jason Monda, to the NCAA, who didn't sign either. Monda somehow avoided punishment.

 

[DoktorEvil]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/2014-new-york-mets-preview-021914

NEW YORK METS
2013: 74-88, third in NL East
Manager: Terry Collins (fourth season)
Key additions: Curtis Granderson, Bartolo Colon, Chris Young
Key losses: Matt Harvey (injured), LaTroy Hawkins, Scott Atchison, David Aardsma

Offense: Assuming Granderson is more his 2011-12 self than a rehash of Jason Bay, the Mets will have to decide if it’s better to have David Wright protecting him or vice versa – but to borrow an old saying, the best-case scenario still can’t be a lineup of “Grandy and Wright and someone else might.” That makes Eric Young Jr. and Daniel Murphy the most important men in the lineup, because if EY can be the sparkplug he was last year at the top and Murphy can again be a .300 hitter with solid all-around peripherals, Wright and Granderson will have a lot of big at-bats. The bottom of the lineup could be up and down if catcher Travis d’Arnaud has some growing pains and they play musical shortstops again, but the biggest situation to watch is at first base. It seems like the Mets are content to have Lucas Duda and Ike Davis compete for the job, but trading Davis as is rumored could actually upgrade the Mets by subtraction; the roster has a handful of players with extreme platoon splits and Collins could use the flexibility of Duda and guys like Young Jr. and Murphy to mix and match positions, playing to the roster’s offensive strengths without having to sacrifice defense too much.

Rotation: The Mets would ideally like to avoid having nine pitchers make five or more starts again this year, but while they seem to have a solid rotation even without Harvey, every spot has a question. Can Zack Wheeler avoid a sophomore slump? Can 40-year-old Colon, who threw more innings last year than he had since 2006, come close to repeating last year’s campaign? Can Jon Niese and Dillon Gee channel their second-half selves more than their first-half selves? And just who is the fifth starter? The Mets have numerous candidates, from Daisuke Matsuzaka to John Lannan to Jenrry Mejia, for that last job, so at least they have a few fallback plans. They also may have a nice pair of reinforcements if top prospects Noah Syndergaard and Rafael Montero, who will both start spring training in the major-league camp, are ready to make second-half cameos a la Wheeler and Harvey.


AROUND THE HORN

Leading off: Ken Rosenthal
Batting second: Jon Paul Morosi
Batting third: Rob Neyer
Cleanup hitter: Gabe Kapler
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Bullpen: Most of the Mets’ subtraction came from the relief corps, so there’s a lot of heavy lifting to do this spring in the ‘pen. Whether or not Bobby Parnell is 100 percent after last season’s neck surgery is the paramount concern, but Parnell or not, the spots behind him are wide open; five Mets made at least 40 relief appearances last year, but aside from Parnell, three are the losses listed above and the fifth is nominal lefty specialist Scott Rice. Collins will need guys like Josh Edgin and Vic Black to step up more than they did in 2013, and a healthy Jeurys Familia would help, because he might actually be the best ninth-inning option if Parnell isn’t there. Collins also said that Mejia could be an option in the bullpen if he doesn’t win the fifth spot in the rotation, and both Kyle Farnsworth and Jose Valverde, who are in camp on minor-league deals, are low-risk options that could pay huge dividends if either can find the magic elixir like Hawkins did last year.

Player to watch: Granderson. Despite all the question marks, Granderson has the most to prove simply because he landed the biggest contract. Perhaps the good news is that last year was really the result of two fluke injuries, but it also remains to be seen how much his offensive production will be affected by moving from hitter-friendly Yankee Stadium to the cavern across town that is Citi Field.

Why they will win: Wheeler has a Harvey-esque sophomore year, Colon finds the fountain of youth again, the bullpen jells, Granderson shows no rust, Davis and/or Duda break out offensively, and Murphy and Young become one of the league’s top one-two punches.

Why they will lose: Murphy’s Law has been the Mets’ team motto for the last couple years so it’s entirely possible that “they’re the Mets” is reason enough, but if more than one of the caveats in the “why they will win” column go wrong, things could go south in a hurry. Alternate thought: if the Mets do succeed early, then not having (or wanting to spend) the money to make even a minimally impactful addition or two at the deadline like the Pirates did last year could be their downfall.

Ken Rosenthal's outlook: Know what I’d like to see? The Mets this season if they had right-hander Harvey. Unfortunately, that’s not going to happen, as Harvey will be recovering from Tommy John surgery. And, as much as I liked the Mets’ combined $87.25 million investment in right-hander Colon and outfielders Granderson and Chris Young, the team is short at least one pitcher (Harvey) and one position player (free-agent shortstop Stephen Drew). The Mets ranked 11th in the NL in runs last season. They play in the same division as the Nationals and Braves. They will contend after Harvey returns in 2015. Maybe.

Baseball is 31 days away. Is anyone else excited?!

 

[sf2fanatic]

So this week in my keeper league I was able to re sign Grandy Man for cheap. I expect him to

Spoiler

be a contender for the HR title and win HR derby..lol

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

So this week in my keeper league I was able to re sign Grandy Man for cheap. I expect him to

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be a contender for the HR title and win HR derby..lol

may the baseball gods hear you!!

 

[zychi]

MLB.tv just keeps taking my money earlier every year. I don't pay for milb, so why are they charging me for it in the middle off be. Ugh

 

[yankeehater]

I don't understand what the Phillies gain from doing that.

Seems really stupid.

Motherfuckers will know they better sign, or else!

 

[jakncoke]

lol phillies

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

so the Mets turned down a straight up trade of Ike Davis for Matt Joyce. Joyce would have been a nice option to have in the OF

 

[Fox318]

So this week in my keeper league I was able to re sign Grandy Man for cheap. I expect him to

Spoiler

be a contender for the HR title and win HR derby..lol

Spoiler

He will have a shit ton of strikeouts and only hit 15 HRs this year.

 

[Syrinx]

so the Mets turned down a straight up trade of Ike Davis for Matt Joyce. Joyce would have been a nice option to have in the OF

I can't say I agree with turning that down, though I don't know offhand how Joyce fared last year. Just how much are they asking for Ike?

 

[jakncoke]

Mets GM Sandy Alderson has made it clear that he will not simply give Davis away. Previous reports indicated that Alderson has asked the Orioles to part with top pitching rospect Eduardo Rodriguez in a Davis trade.

Wonder how much truth is to this. Seems mets want big or nothing

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

I can't say I agree with turning that down, though I don't know offhand how Joyce fared last year. Just how much are they asking for Ike?

Seems Sandy wants a young starter.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Seems Sandy wants a young starter.

I'm glad he's holding out for one, you know, in case Harvey or Wheeler don't pan out.

 

[BFIB]

Wonder how much truth is to this. Seems mets want big or nothing

If I'm the Mets GM, I'd ask for something substantial too.

 

[newjeruse]

Andrelton Simmons gets a 7-year contract.

 

[darkside31337]

If I'm the Mets GM, I'd ask for something substantial too.

For Ike Davis? Dude sucks.

I'm not a huge fan of Joyce but I'm glad the Rays didnt trade him for Ike.

 

[jbug617]

Andrelton Simmons gets a 7-year contract.

@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: Simmons deal with #Braves is seven years, $58M.

Braves spending the cash

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

When is Kyle Loh- I mean Erwin Santana going to sign?

 

[BFIB]

For Ike Davis? Dude sucks.

I'm not a huge fan of Joyce but I'm glad the Rays didnt trade him for Ike.

Normally I'd agree, but both the Brewers and Pirates are in need of someone at first. Why not see if one will bite? Though I doubt he gets traded.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Spoiler

He will have a shit ton of strikeouts and only hit 15 HRs this year.

Maybe... because it'll be either one of those two

 

[Malo]

You get an extension! You get an extension!

Everyone gets an extension!

 

[darkside31337]

I really don't get the Simmons extension.

His value is almost entirely based on his defense which never gets players paid in arbitration.

 

[Enron]

Matt Harrison going in for an MRI on his back. Rangers disaster of a rotation is getting even WORSE.

I really don't get the Simmons extension.

His value is almost entirely based on his defense which never gets players paid in arbitration.

He's 24. Only going to get better with the bat. Even with just being so-so with the stick outside of power, he was nearly a 7 WAR player last year.

 

[CygnusXS]

Was not expecting Andy to get signed until next year. So, that basically just leaves Minor, and maybe Heyward next year.

 

[darkside31337]

Matt Harrison going in for an MRI on his back. Rangers disaster of a rotation is getting even WORSE.




He's 24. Only going to get better with the bat. Even with just being so-so with the stick outside of power, he was nearly a 7 WAR player last year.

Not saying hes not good just saying his skill set has always been undervalued through arbitration. Pretty much every other guy who gets locked up this early is a slugging 1B/OF type and not a defensive value based middle infielder. I really don't think he was going to get this much over the next 7 years so he was smart to take it.

 

[Enron]

Was not expecting Andy to get signed until next year. So, that basically just leaves Minor, and maybe Heyward next year.

Heard a rumor on Buck and Kincaide on 680 that Wren approached Minor but Minor told 'em " no thanks".

 

[jbug617]

Red Sox and Capuano still talking. Mariners are also in on him.

Also looks like the Sox don't plan on signing Drew

 

[Malo]

Red Sox and Capuano still talking. Mariners are also in on him.

Also looks like the Sox don't plan on signing Drew

Yankees need Drew badly. Get on it Cash.

 

[BFIB]

I really don't get the Simmons extension.

His value is almost entirely based on his defense which never gets players paid in arbitration.

Not a lot of SS out there, I think its a very smart move by the Braves.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Fuck this phillies organization. Bunch of clueless thugs.

 

[Malvingt2]

The Braves spending the money.. damn

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
With Simmons' seven-year, $58 million contract, the #Braves have committed more than $280 million in extensions over the past two weeks.

 

[Purple Cheeto]

The Braves spending the money.. damn

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
With Simmons' seven-year, $58 million contract, the #Braves have committed more than $280 million in extensions over the past two weeks.

I was just wondering how many extensions they had signed. I guess they really like the nucleus of their team.

 

[CygnusXS]

I was just wondering how many extensions they had signed. I guess they really like the nucleus of their team.

They have good reason to.