lol what? washed up at 29? haha. Not enough lolz.
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lol what? washed up at 29? haha. Not enough lolz.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Didn't Prince have a lot of off-the-field issues last year? I heard he was going through a particularly nasty divorce.
As a casual baseball and Tigers fan, I can't say I expected this. On one hand, the bat lost will hurt a little. On the other hand, a solid second baseman with good defense and speed will definitely be beneficial, not to mention the ripple effect it'd cause on the lineup.
And yeah, if this means keeping Max Scherzer, I'm all for that.
And yeah, if this means keeping Max Scherzer, I'm all for that.
Not happening. Moreland never had the ceiling that Davis had.
That seems unlikely. He's already as old as Chris Davis is with no sign of improvement.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Castellanos to play third perhaps?
Ninja Scooter
Member
What a dumb fucking trade by the Rangers. Fielder had one of the 5 worst contracts in baseball. I think i'd rather have Pujols.
Great for the Tigers. They free up money to potentially keep and re-up Scherzer, and on top of that they can move fatass Miggy to 1st and get a real 3B via draft or FA (Freese? Uribe?) and improve their team as a whole. I honestly thought Prince's contract would be untradeable. Detroit just got an early Christmas gift.
Great for the Tigers. They free up money to potentially keep and re-up Scherzer, and on top of that they can move fatass Miggy to 1st and get a real 3B via draft or FA (Freese? Uribe?) and improve their team as a whole. I honestly thought Prince's contract would be untradeable. Detroit just got an early Christmas gift.
His speed isn't that great any more. He was only successful on 15 of 26 stolen base attempts last year. Also he has a tendency to fall asleep and get picked off :/
Getting Fielder at an AAV of under 20 million isn't a bad move though. And it frees up the middle infield logjam.
Ninja Scooter
Member
just saw the money changing hands. That makes it a bit better, but I just don't see Fielder aging well at all. I think his performance this year is the sign of a huge decline and for a guy on contract til 2020, that's got potential to get Ryan Howard bad as far as being an albatross.
That's still better than a 1 of 2 from Fielder. At the very least, he's a threat to potentially steal, not a joke.
but hes signed until 2020 with a horrible body and has seen his OPS, bb%, and iso decline every year since 2010. Rangers have the money, but its not a good deal. Atleast this allows miggy to move to first.
captmcblack
Member
Thanks to both Texas and Detroit for making it tougher for Cano to get a crazy contract.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Prince for Kinsler?
Did they pull this off in MLB The Show? What a trade.
Did they pull this off in MLB The Show? What a trade.
The Frankman
Banned
You know how much water weight Fielder will lose in Texas? Dude will have to change his uni twice a game from the sweat alone!
Ninja Scooter
Member
Texas needed a fat DH in steady decline?
Gotta watch out for the dreaded mystery team.
Philly already has Utley though.
Dominican Power
Member
1 bad year is steady decline?
Ninja Scooter
Member
3 straight years of decline is...a steady decline
Oh yeah going from 981 to 940 OPS in 2011-12 is a huge red flag.
Fielder had a season a few years ago where his numbers cratered and he bounced back from that.
Im not worried about him being able to bounce back from this. He's not even 30. If he were heading into his age 33 season i'd be worried.
Is Fielder even worth the money after the 30 million from the Tigers? Probably not. But look at what else is out there, power wise, in FA. Not a lot that can be plugged into 1B. If Fielder were a FA right now, he'd definitely command more than what the Rangers will effectively be paying him.
Im not worried about him being able to bounce back from this. He's not even 30. If he were heading into his age 33 season i'd be worried.
Is Fielder even worth the money after the 30 million from the Tigers? Probably not. But look at what else is out there, power wise, in FA. Not a lot that can be plugged into 1B. If Fielder were a FA right now, he'd definitely command more than what the Rangers will effectively be paying him.
weekend_warrior
Banned
What..???!???? Fielder's contract is fucking terrible though. He'll be stuck here for SEVEN YEARS. No one else will touch that shit.
Holy shit, 7 more years? He'll be a rolling ball of useless in 3 years max.
Buckethead
Banned
Great trade Tigers. Two thumbs up.
Hope they're smart with the Miggy deal although I doubt it.
Hope they're smart with the Miggy deal although I doubt it.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yes, and the rumor was teammate Avisail Garcia was the reason for the divorce, which led to his trade from Detroit.
I thought every big leaguer hated Kinsler. Huh.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
holy shit lol
If Cano ends up getting $170 million over 6 years, he is far from fucked.
Who would they sign to play 1st base?
It's really about filling needs and they have a need for another OF and a C. Prince fills the need for a 1B but does nothing to cover an OF and C spot. I could ask the same question but replace 1B with OF and C.
Which looks better?
Fielder
or
Prospects + McCann + Beltran
7/138 nets you Ellsbury or less than that nets you Choo. All of this with prospects added in after Kinsler is traded.
This trade doesn't stop them from getting McCann or Beltran.
turnbuckle
Member
don't think there was any evidence of this, and fielder seemed to be friendly with Garcia during games after that trade went down
