yankeeforever2
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I assume ichiro would be traded if they get Choo
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MLB Offseason '13-'14 |OT| Where the best fans live
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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Hey...a twitter nobody making guesstimates in payroll!
You're Kate Hudson?
Dominican Power
Member
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Jon Heyman is a nobody?
pyscho Kanye
Jon Heyman is a nobody?
Jon Heyman is no different than a Adam Schefter or generic ESPN guy.
Not hustling? What is this 2008?
Dude was in a Contract year and he slowed his ass to first after every hit.
I want a sabermetric stat that shows laziness
Cano is practically a DH, so not surprised.
Shit. I forgot. Weekend_Warrior said he was the best defensive 2B in the game!
I'm better than Kate Hudson. I predict WS victories and I'm not straight to video.
vas_a_morir
Banned
RIP bluemax
Wait... don't tell me they got Bluemax...
I'm all for the Yankees drawing a line and saying no to massive contracts for guys in their 30's. However that way of thinking needs to extend to all contract negotiations and not just Cano.
This is what makes the Ellsbury signing confusing if the Yanks hold steady at around 170M for Cano. Why bend over backwards for Ellsbury and give him a massive contract that seems no one else was willing to match other than perhaps the Mariners but draw a hard line for Cano, the superior player?
Ellsbury is 30 and Cano 31, there is not a massive difference in their age. However Cano is more durable, more valuable, and actually an elite talent.
If you put your foot down on Cano then you do the same for Ellsbury. You let him walk once the price becomes too high. You don't splurge on the lesser talent.
Now if the Yanks offer 8/200M and Cano still walks I can say they used somewhat the same strategy for both players.
1: 5.4
2: 4.9
3: 4.4
4: 3.9
5: 3.4
6: 2.9
7: 2.4
8: 1.9
That would be worth $175M over 8 years if Cano hits Steamer's projection next season and loses .5 WAR per season over 8 years.
Why give Ellsbury 153M over 7 yet refuse to go higher than 175M on Cano? Even if he does not hit these projections 25 WAR over 8 years (0.6 drop) that is still worth $150M.
Use a strategy and stick with it.
This is what makes the Ellsbury signing confusing if the Yanks hold steady at around 170M for Cano. Why bend over backwards for Ellsbury and give him a massive contract that seems no one else was willing to match other than perhaps the Mariners but draw a hard line for Cano, the superior player?
Ellsbury is 30 and Cano 31, there is not a massive difference in their age. However Cano is more durable, more valuable, and actually an elite talent.
If you put your foot down on Cano then you do the same for Ellsbury. You let him walk once the price becomes too high. You don't splurge on the lesser talent.
Now if the Yanks offer 8/200M and Cano still walks I can say they used somewhat the same strategy for both players.
1: 5.4
2: 4.9
3: 4.4
4: 3.9
5: 3.4
6: 2.9
7: 2.4
8: 1.9
That would be worth $175M over 8 years if Cano hits Steamer's projection next season and loses .5 WAR per season over 8 years.
Why give Ellsbury 153M over 7 yet refuse to go higher than 175M on Cano? Even if he does not hit these projections 25 WAR over 8 years (0.6 drop) that is still worth $150M.
Use a strategy and stick with it.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
If that's accurate, I wouldn't want Cano on my team regardless of what team I prefer.
Pretty much what I predicted. Yanks using one negotiation style for player A and another for player B.
When you can alienate a top 10 player and give two pretty ugly nine-figure deals to two lesser players you gotta do it.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Really? You don't think it's fair or normal for a player to feel slighted?
Purple Cheeto
Member
Well his infield hit % was 3.9% last year, which is right on his career average of 4.0%.
His career low was 2.7% in 2006 and his career high was 5.0% in 2012.
slightconfuse
Banned
wouldnt want to losse cano. He was consistant if anything last year. 5/6 year deal would be fine. think they want to avoid another A-ro like contract
lucius
Member
I think Yankees would match 185/7 years for Cano, I think he is definitely getting over 200 million if he going to Mariners unless he is stupid, it would probably even have to be closer to 225 contract which Mariners seem willing to do, Yankees should make one last offer close to 200 and just move on after he brings up that Mariners are still offering more.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
As we all do
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Don't think the Ms go over what they offered
It's a big contract but really as a Mariners fan you have to be happy your team is trying to do something. It seems they have to overpay to get big names to play there and they are willing to do it twice (Ellsbury/Cano). Trade for Kemp, get another bat or two to go along with Seager, and you have something going.
Obviously that is a lot to do but if the Mariners are going to alter the team they might as well go all in.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
it's always about greed and jelaousy. I mean, it doesn't hurt me none i'm just a fan but at least Cano is being honest....
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Just saying you already gave him more than anybody would and if he signed with the Yanks for that much less I would be happy if the Ms were aiight fuck em then
Instead trying to tack 10 mill more
Seager and I also think Miller will be pretty damn good for a SS for us.
They could probably resign Morales to be a DH also.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
All this Cano talk..
A Black Falcon
Member
Yeah. He's not the worst traitor, that'll probably always be Roger Clemens for me, but this is bad...
I knew we were probably going to lose him, but why did it have to be the Yankees?Yeah that time when he was traded to the Yankees was so traitorous.
I still haven't gotten over it.
This class is so stacked. More than 10 of these guys deserve to be in the hall.
none will be voted in
Mr. Enigma
Member
The Mariners have officially made a 9-year, $225 million offer to Robinson Cano. Cano is now waiting to see if the Yankees will increase their offer from the reported 7-year, $175 million deal they offered a few days ago.
Dominican Power
Member
lol @ The Rangers talking to Trashcibia.
Purple Cheeto
Member
Shouldn't Mariners fans be mad that a team with a bunch of holes in its roster and a lame duck GM are about to offer a franchise crippling contract to a guy with maybe 2 good years left?
Seems like the only way this could be worse is if they also make that awful David Price trade.
I get that they gotta overpay or be careful but these seem like the kind of moves a Mariners fan might not end up liking. I'm glad I'm not a Mariners fan.
Congrats M's fans.