Mr. Enigma
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Jabee is talking about Laynce Nix on the Phillies, ya dinguses.
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MLB Regular Season 2013 |OT| - Natinals Already Won
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You're getting your Nix's confused.
Yeah, I got you. Just saying, it wasn't an effective troll when you're just reminding me how awesome the franchise is.
yankeehater
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I teach at an urban school and they had to drop baseball a few years ago due to not having enough kids interested, whereas football and basketball teams have to turn kids down because so many try out for them. I have also never heard anyone call baseball a white sport but it definitely seems to be less popular with the youth now for what ever reason.
Duane Cunningham
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Well, so with the Royals and Tigers tied for ALC #1, let's just take a look at the next series for each of them--
.......shiiiiiiiit.
.......shiiiiiiiit.
acheron_xl
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You don't even need a field, just enough open space, which itself I'm sure is a precious commodity. I was going to mention something about the equipment necessary, but kids have been playing ball with sticks and anything round for generations. I think baseball just got a little less sexy somehow, and it's snowballed ever since. I always wondered if Melvin was trying to poke at that dynamic by putting together a team that had as many American born black players as the '08 Brewers, if it was chemistry-driven, or entirely coincidental.
Why would we be talking about him? :jnc
I imagine it was entirely coincidental but I did find it humorous, at the time, that race baiter Eugene Kane went on a tear about how awful it was that the Brewers were so lily white dotted with hispanics a mere few weeks before they fielded a team with the most African American starters in baseball.
I don't really understand the handwringing personally. Are there a lot of black commentators demanding more blacks in the soccer league? Is there a league of Asians furious that there are no Asian pro bowlers? Why no white outrage about the disproportionate makeup of the NBA?
Why does it need to be "fixed" in the first place? For whatever reason black kids don't want to play baseball. Why should anyone try and socially engineer them to do so?
acheron_xl
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I think it's because they were there and now aren't. There were African American stars all over the league on both sides of the ball in the 60s and 70s.
What is a part of "black culture"?
BFIB
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No clue. A few of my friends worded it that way when I was discussing this with them a few months ago.
I'm as white as white can be.
endresults
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Sanjuro's Teenage Mutant Ninja Youkilis av is back. Yay.
Yeah. Winning MVP awards usually do that to you.
Alex Anderson
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John Valentin was robbed
Select baseball is expensive and like 90% white. You can't become good at baseball just by staying at the playground like you can in football and basketball.
Why couldn't you?
Yeah I'm sure dominicans and puerto ricans sure have all the advantages that us lucky white folks have!
Heart Attack
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I'm still amazed he didn't make the team coming off spring training. Mattingly is a fucking retard.
Duane Cunningham
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Kinda weird how "urban youths" dug baseball for 100 years, though and it only became an outdated, slow white person's game in the last 20 years or so.
Of course, it HAS stayed popular in places like NY and STL. Huh. Now why would that be?
Of course, it HAS stayed popular in places like NY and STL. Huh. Now why would that be?
storybook77
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It is pretty popular around here though there do seem to be more whites who participate. Even had a few Little League World Series teams from here.
We started hosting the Southeast regionals not long ago too.
I'd imagine in St Louis it's just so ingrained into the culture, plus there's no big NBA team for people to follow
Are you claiming black people are bandwagon jumpers? How dare you.
I blame video games.
Duane Cunningham
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To clarify, I'm being a little snarky with the second sentence and implying that market disparity (or at least winning record disparity, regardless of the cause) HAS taken its toll on the game since the mid 90's.
But if I'm wrong and it's not that, I do wonder why it was fast paced enough for kids in the 20's, kids in the 40s, kids in the 60's and kids in the 80's but only now have kids (and adults) decided it's too slow and old fashioned. I mean, it's not like Basketball and Football weren't alternatives all that time too.
But if I'm wrong and it's not that, I do wonder why it was fast paced enough for kids in the 20's, kids in the 40s, kids in the 60's and kids in the 80's but only now have kids (and adults) decided it's too slow and old fashioned. I mean, it's not like Basketball and Football weren't alternatives all that time too.
I'm pulling this out of my ass a bit and doing so on the fly, dangerous territory in this type of discussion but:
Baseball broke the color barrier over a decade before some of the SEC schools started allowing blacks on the field. Baseball has always been a sort of more northern centered sport, while football more southern, at least in dominance. I wonder if some of the reasons that "black culture" was more into baseball for a time was because of that perception and as that fell away a bit, the culture shifted away from baseball for some reason.
Eh, I kind of lost steam halfway through that theory.
Baseball broke the color barrier over a decade before some of the SEC schools started allowing blacks on the field. Baseball has always been a sort of more northern centered sport, while football more southern, at least in dominance. I wonder if some of the reasons that "black culture" was more into baseball for a time was because of that perception and as that fell away a bit, the culture shifted away from baseball for some reason.
Eh, I kind of lost steam halfway through that theory.
XiaNaphryz
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Yeah, this theory only works if the country doesn't have a vast history aligned with baseball at the youth, high school, and travel level.
Baseball is second only to Football in the state of Georgia. People love 'em some batting and pitching.
I don't buy into the "baseball is expensive" part of the discussion. That absolutely works for tennis and golf, but I think it suffered more from basketball absolutely exploding in the '80s, followed shortly by football.
Dmncnby2k9
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Does baseball need to do a better job of marketing players? I really like the "I play for" commercials.
Heart Attack
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Dumpster has 8 K's. Rays are awful 
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.Sir Alemeth
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And to make matter worse Atlanta lost to them. That season should've been ours.... :-
I think Terry Glenn was here before her.
storybook77
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Yep, just reference my post above. I live in Georgia.
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