If Steve could help Anderson get the PPV over half million buys he would have a chance of getting a title shot.
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If Steve could help Anderson get the PPV over half million buys he would have a chance of getting a title shot.
Host Samurai
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I think the real winner is Wanderlai. I highly doubt he will fight Vitor at this point.
He got beat by Vitor back when he could take a punch. Wand as he is now would get an even worse beatdown.
Jest Chillin
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Silva isn't a large MW at all. He's got a slight reach advantage in most cases but nothing as major as what Jones has on the LHW division. Silva isn't a muscular build either.
I never insinuated Jones was more muscular. I specifically said he had Height and Reach. The only reason Jones is in LHW is because he's young and weighs less naturally than most fighters his Height and Build.
I had the exact same pick and I like Bisping. It just felt like 5-10 mins of fresh Belfort was going to be too much for Mike, who always starts off weaker.
Host Samurai
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Can we put the Vitor gassing after 1 round to rest?
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I take it we're waiting for drug test results before MMA GAF ratifies the "Vitor's Back" legislation?
GSP does have a muscular build and he's still not the largest WW. Silva is bigger than most MWs. He's damn tall too.
Jones is skinny as hell for a LHW. Look at his legs for fucks sake. He's tall and that's it.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I have an eternal place in my heart for the "Jones is successful only because he's bigger/longer than everyone else in the division." Because as we all know, Kendall Grove is the most dominant middleweight of all time.
Lambda Pie
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it's the sensible approach.
Jest Chillin
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Jones is tall and athletic as hell. Wait til Jones hits 28-30 years old and you'll see him move up (if not before then due to lack of comp in LHW). Jones is a natural HW. Quit trying to act otherwise. Silva is a natural MW. He's talented enough to do well at LHW but he's a MW.
And the only WW comparable to GSP's build is Thiago Alves and that dude has serious issues making weight. Btw GSP is listed* at 5'11".
I'm saying though! Jones has height/reach/youth and athleticism on his side against Silva. The two aren't at relative stages in their lives, physical builds or careers. That Silva v. GSP fight makes much more sense.
Im not saying jones wont be a HW. He will. Thiago Silva is way thicker than GSP. They cannot be compared. GSP is taller and much leaner. He has a broad back and it makes him appear much larger than he is. Silva is a big MW. Look at him in comparison to any LHW outside if Jon Jones and maybe Gustufson. He's the same size, if not bigger.
Bullshit
It's a very old shop.
TheKaeptain
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GSP is shorter than I am. Look we have weight classes for a reason. Only a select few can actually fight in more than one class. Let's get back to what matters. Silva is ducking Weidman.
Ninja Scooter
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That doesn't mean it isn't accurate. It's not like they're actually the same height or something lol.
That shop is like 5+ years old. This is totally real too.
Clearly Cruz should be taking on Silva for the 185 belt.
Did I say they were the same height? The pic is useless because it's not accurate.
Clearly Cruz should be taking on Silva for the 185 belt.
Not only that but the stats I can find show GSP AT 5' 10" and Silva at 6' 2"
Jones is 6' 4" apparently.
That still places silva closer to jones height wise. Not to mention walk around weight, which is here say. Though we have accounts from fighters themselves which points to closer weight between Jones and Silva than GSP to Silva.
Jones is 6' 4" apparently.
That still places silva closer to jones height wise. Not to mention walk around weight, which is here say. Though we have accounts from fighters themselves which points to closer weight between Jones and Silva than GSP to Silva.
Jest Chillin
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The angle at which both fighters where photographed makes all the difference actually since we're looking at a visual comparison.. so the fact that it's shop means it can't possibly be accurate. Either way it doesn't mess with my point at all.
How many fights does Silva have contracted at this point anyways? 2 or 3?
UFC.com lists GSP at 5'11' but that doesn't refute your point. And again.. "walk around weight" means nothing even with accounts from the fighters themselves because it can fluctuate. The best comparisons are the time-of-fight Weights.
Ninja Scooter
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Cain with dat American Dad jawline
Apparently 10. He'll probably end up like Liddell by the end of it.
Is there actually any real pics of them together?
GSP is here
but I can't find a pic of everyone standing.
Jest Chillin
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I hope 10 isn't accurate. He'll end up Mayweathering for 3-4 more years.
TheKaeptain
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Get out of her with your logic.
Lambda Pie
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look at Aldo eyeing Edgar. it's like they knew the day would come.
Lol. Yeah right. Aldo is so getting hurt before the fight.
And I remembered GSP and Aldo left that press conference early because they had fights on that show. That's why they're both missing from all the other pictures.
Host Samurai
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Next week we get to potentially see another Schaub KO.
TheKaeptain
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lol Even Chael knows it.
Jest Chillin
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Pot and Kettle.
TheKaeptain
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Hey it isn't Chael's fault that his body doesn't produce enough test.
Jest Chillin
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A More Normal Bird
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He'd have a significant height and reach advantage, a much smaller weight advantage (assuming they forced his lazy ass down to a catchweight) and I'm of the opinion that the strength would either be a wash or in Georges' favour. Slippery St. Pierre just likes to claim that Silva is so much bigger that he'd have to take months off in order to properly gormandise himself for a fight.
Regardless, we all know that whatever scenario Canderson opts for against the smaller fighter he'd be doing it so he can set even more serpentine conditions should he ever actually fight Jones. He'll probably cut to 175 for GSP and argue for Jones to cut to 190.
If he didn't pop for the Jones fight I don't think he'll pop now, unless he's done a Bonnar to burn in them sick cuts. Gotta have the complete package with hair like that.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Big Ben is being choked that hard he's changing into Keith Jardine.
Host Samurai
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Kongo vs Rothwell next
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A More Normal Bird
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Dream Sanchez said:
We're going to need someone else to take up the Dawkins mantle now that Bisping has been disposed of like a can of Stella.
Plenty of aetheist fighters, just too few with skin as thick as Bisping willing to put it to the God Squad in public.
polyh3dron
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Can Crusher
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I want to see Weidman take the belt, but personally I think he needs to make himself more interesting.
Right now he just acts like any other champ wannabe.
Lol people demanding Silva vs Jones because Silva vs GSP isn't fair height wise. Gsp fans are funny. Meanwhile somehow he HAS to fight the biggest guy of them all.
Anyway, honestly? I truly believe Cain would legit murder Jones, and I actually do think that Silva would style his ass.
Right now he just acts like any other champ wannabe.
Clearly Cruz should be taking on Silva for the 185 belt.
Lol people demanding Silva vs Jones because Silva vs GSP isn't fair height wise. Gsp fans are funny. Meanwhile somehow he HAS to fight the biggest guy of them all.
Anyway, honestly? I truly believe Cain would legit murder Jones, and I actually do think that Silva would style his ass.
Hell naw, that's like saying Shogun's got great cardio because he went 25 mins with Machida.
Besides, Bisping clearly took a fall to complete his face turn with a show of good sportsmanship in defeat.
sazabirules
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Has Vitor always done a PRAISE GAWD speech after his wins?
He became super religious after the business with his sister.
parrotbeak
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Dammit, looks like I missed a great show. I passed out dead to the world all day yesterday. Catching up on a week of bad sleep.
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