Ninja Scooter
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Shogun gave Jones trouble in the same way Tina Turner gave Ike trouble.
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Shogun gave Jones trouble in the same way Tina Turner gave Ike trouble.
Sometimes it takes guys a while to adapt their strengths to MMA because of the grappling or striking they have to also account for during fights.
Host Samurai
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Why not set up Rampage vs Vitor? Rampage pretty much is not touching that belt as long as Bones has the title and Vitor aint touching Anderson again. Perfect fight for each other at this stage in their career's.A bold prediction regarding our future champ Mr. Wonderful. He is getting the next shot at Jones after besting Evans.
The Wonderful era, 2012-20??.
You better believe it.
After he beats Evans how I described he'll best Jones by kimura using only his feet in Round 4. All kimuras will thereafter be referred to as "wonderfuls" in honor of this powerful new submission.
The coaches need to speak Portuguese. Paul Harris would've been television gold.
Host Samurai
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Its been confirmed that if Davis beats Evans than Hendo gets the shot. If Evans gets past Davis than Evans gets the shot.
He already had eleven fights of bad-MMA under his belt at that point, but I get your drift. If no one's taxing his strengths he'll never better them.
Bingo.
I'm truly baffled by this logic.
sazabirules
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I'm still hoping Shields gets hurt so we can have a biggest-can contender fight between Sexyama and The Outlaw.
Oops, I guess I meant he gets the next realistic shot at beating Jones, lol.
But really, those three are the top contenders for Jones right now. He mows through Evans, Henderson might get a lucky shot but not likely, and then we have our future LHW savior Mr. Wonderful taking over for everyone at that point. It's just crazy enough to work, I tell you!!!
I wonder what the next #1 contender fight would be if Mr. Wonderful beats Rashad. He's already beaten Lil' Nog and Gustafsson, and Jon has beaten the rest.
TheKaeptain
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For reals? Sexy would fuck Hardy up.
Why? Hendo is a worthy opponent by any metric. Recent wins, divsional ranking, all-time ranking. Plus the guy is an mma-legend. On top of that he possess a weapon that can end any fight, so that at least makes the match compelling on paper for 1 or 2 rounds. He's a 2 division champ in Pride, a SF Champ, has wins over Shogun, Fedor, Wand, etc.
Cant wait for Condit to wreck him.
If Rashad is currently the #1 contender, which he apparently is, and Davis wins the fight, then by logic, Davis should be the #1 contender if he beats Rashad.
parrotbeak
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Yamato said yesterday that too bad there are no good bjj 205ers to fight BJB. Paul Harris is big enough and crazy enough to move to 205.
TheKaeptain
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And guys don't let the Asianess fool you, Korean Zombie is a good fighter.
The logic is Hendo would do more buys than Mr. Wonderful.
Host Samurai
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I would much rather see Hendo fight Jones over Davis. Hendo isn't getting any younger and time is not on his side. He has what is arguably the best MMA record of all time and is a legend. I still think Davis is way too green and has only beat Lil Nog in an unimpressive showing.
Who says logic or rankings has anything to do with UFC matchmaking? Who sells fights trumps all that bullshit. Hendo is coming off of the fight of the year and is arguably the fighter of the year is JBJ didn't exist. He's coming off a 4 fight win streak with wins over babulu, cavalcante, fedor, and shogun. not too shabby.
Host Samurai
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I won myself a few hundred bucks on Saturday night. I think many people overlooked this fight as a good opportunity to make some money. I put a Franklin on him
Never count out a solid fighter like KZ.Definitely don't disagree with you, it's more an issue I have with the current state of "rankings" and belts and all that, but that's a dicussion for another time. Hendo vs Bones I'd enjoy seeing too.
I'm just saying, if Phil Davis beats Rashad, you would imagine he'd get the title shot. But logic smchogic I guess. Ah well.
sazabirules
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Well if Mr. Wonderful takes out Rashad easily I could see Dana reconsidering. Does Dana have more say in arranging title fights than Joe Silva?
TheKaeptain
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Don't worry Condit will get the shot after he beats up Diaz.
If the exciting Mr. Wonderful makes an appearance against Rashad Evans, we just might see a Jones v. Wonderful sooner. Since we're probably going to see sleepy time Mr. Wonderful give it to Dan Henderson next. He's not getting any younger and he'll get more buys for the PPV.
But after that the Mr. Wonderful era will be in full swing. I'm just not sure it will be exciting.
But after that the Mr. Wonderful era will be in full swing. I'm just not sure it will be exciting.
Host Samurai
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If Jones leaves the division in 2013 than I think its safe to assume Shogun/Machida would wreck the division with Page/Evans/Nog/Davis/Hendo being solid contenders. Maybe Vitor can move back to LHW...
Jose is going to blow up the MMA pyramid.
Nah brah. Chad's biggest concern is escaping the arena alive after he grinds Jose down for 5 rounds.
Maklershed
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Ha like I said it was all a haze at that point. I remember Jones walking around in the ring after the fight and talking to Rogan but I dont really remember the fight itself.
RBelong2Us
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Hendo is truly the #1 contender anyway you slice it. WTF has Evans done lately except consistently be on the DL and beat Tito?
While Hendo has wrecked dudes all year.
While Hendo has wrecked dudes all year.
Host Samurai
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I agree. Since Evans got stank leg all he did was get 2 very unimpressive decision wins against T.Silva, a rusty as hell Rampage and dominated a 2011 Tito. Hendo had whooped serious ass over that time period with a KO's over Bisping to Babalu to Fedor and now beat Shogun. Hendo's last loss was vs Shields who he almost finished too.
Despite that though even while hitting Shields with "THE H-BOMB" he got dominated for 4.5 rounds including getting totally outwrestled. That's even worse than Gray Maynard-level gassing. But maybe that fight is old enough that it shouldn't factor in as much anymore?
Given the choice I'd rather see the Hendo fight, way more interesting historically and in terms of guys peaking. But I wouldn't hate to see the Evans fight either. Davis might not be a world-beater but if Evans beats him I'd say he deserves it as much as anyone else, or at least close enough.
Given the choice I'd rather see the Hendo fight, way more interesting historically and in terms of guys peaking. But I wouldn't hate to see the Evans fight either. Davis might not be a world-beater but if Evans beats him I'd say he deserves it as much as anyone else, or at least close enough.
Ninja Scooter
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the only blemish on Hendo's current streak was that can he beat in his last fight in Strikeforce. If only SF could have found someone tougher to feed him.
bone_and_sinew
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I'd like to see Rashad-Hendo but Dana won't want to kill off two future fights for Bones like that. Rashad is only getting a shot because of the beef.
RBelong2Us
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Not only was the Shields fight a while ago but it was a different weight class, so yeah, not much to look into with that one except come to the conclusion that Hendo belongs in LHW for the remainder of his career.
Don't think it's unreasonable to say that looking at what Shields did to Hendo Jones could probably do 10x more. But maybe the cut really did affect him that much; he's certainly looked pretty great since granted not against good wrestlers.
parrotbeak
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I like to think it was age catching up to him with the cut to 185. That's my excuse for ignoring that fight. Also cuz it was so boring, how can you even remember it.
Host Samurai
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Was doing some digging from the time Evans lost the belt to now and comparing it to what Hendo did in that time frame.
Win Mauricio Rua
Win Fedor Emelianenko
Win Rafael Cavalcante
Win Renato Sobral
Loss Jake Shields
Win Michael Bisping
Win Rich Franklin
Win Rousimar Palhares
Lol Rashad doesn't deserve shit. Just give Hendo the shot.
Win Mauricio Rua
Win Fedor Emelianenko
Win Rafael Cavalcante
Win Renato Sobral
Loss Jake Shields
Win Michael Bisping
Win Rich Franklin
Win Rousimar Palhares
Lol Rashad doesn't deserve shit. Just give Hendo the shot.
ldcommando
Banned
Ufc 142 tickets bought.
Aldo by flying knee
Belfort by strikes to the back of the head
Paul Harris by leglocking the ref by mistake.
All kidding aside, I hope the card delivers like the last time.
Aldo by flying knee
Belfort by strikes to the back of the head
Paul Harris by leglocking the ref by mistake.
All kidding aside, I hope the card delivers like the last time.
TheKaeptain
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Chamber and Boogie
HE IS OUT OF SURGERY!
HE IS OUT OF SURGERY!
Ninja Scooter
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Nick Diaz should have been disguised as an orderly and attacked GSP with a bedpan. That's how you build a feud, Dana.
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