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MMA |OT2| - Thread of Athletes, Fighters, Personalities, and Sports Entertainment

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Heel

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bone_and_sinew said:
The problem with that is you'd keep Aldo on the shelf for at least 7 months if he has to wait for Zombie/Poirer. Giving him Hioki/Bartimus in May or June then Poirer/Zombie in the fall would be better for everyone.
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Sadly, we're talking about the UFC. I wouldn't put it past them.

Featherweight is looking to be a lot of fun this year.

Nunes/Siver
Blanco/Brimage
Peralta/Semerzier II
Koch
Hettes
Do Bronx
Alcantara
Brandao
Holloway

Edgar after he loses... :)
 
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ShaneB

Member
dream said:
I don't know real names. Is that zombie?
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H

Heel

Member
Brian Fellows said:
Why? That is a much worse fight.
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Both lost to Forrest. Both are former UFC champions. Both are on the verge of retirement. Both are non-factors in the title picture. Both are free this summer. They have never fought each other.

Why not? That is way better than Tito/Forrest III. Can you pick a clear winner?
 
Brian Fellows

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
I think Forrest is about the best you are going to do for Tito. Its still not a good fight but you're not gonna find one for him because he sucks. Best case scenario would be him going away and never coming back.

Little Nog would be a more interesting fight for Ace I think.
 
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Maklershed

Member
Not that it matters to me since I just use user cp all the time anyways but hasn't this thread finally gotten enough heat to be stickied?

Heel said:
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Yay Marianna <3

Heel said:
Ray "That Guy Who Fought Andre Arlovski" Lopez vs. Chris Price
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lol

yacobod said:
rumored fight for Tito's last stand:

Tito vs Forrest III
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A perfect opportunity for Tito to go out on a win since Forrest hasn't seem to been training hard lately nor does his heart seem to be in mma anymore.
 
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TheNatural

My Member!
I'm having MMA withdrawal. They give us MMA every week for like over a month, then BAM - 10 days wait between events. Then after that, even longer. Fuckers.
 
C

Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
With many of the old guard being ushered out and UFC pushing forward with trying to market new stars, I'm curious to hear thoughts on how many fights each of the fighters from the old guard have and if they are "UFC Hall of Fame" bound. Rank em if you could based on who is getting in the hall of fame and who isn't (based on merits, and not Poster Boy status). They are in order by age as of now.

Dan Henderson, turning 42 this year
UFC 17 Middleweight Tournament Winner, 1 Time Pride Middleweight Champion, 1 Time Pride Welterweight Champion, 2005 Pride Grand Prix Winner, 1 Time Strikeforce Light-Heavyweight Champion
6-2 in UFC
29-8 MMA

Sean Sherk, turning 39 this year
1 Time UFC Lightweight Champion
10-3 in UFC
36-4 MMA

Rich Franklin, turning 38 this year
1 Time UFC Middleweight Champion,
13-5 in UFC
28-6 MMA

Tito Ortiz, turned 37 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion
16-10 in UFC
16-10 MMA

Anderson Silva, turning 37 this year
1 Time UFC Middleweight Champion
14-0 in UFC
31-4 MMA

Wanderlei Silva, turning 36 this year
1 Time Pride Middleweight Champion, 2003 Pride Grand Prix Winner
2-4 in UFC
34-11-1-1 MMA

Big Nog, Turning 36 this year
1 Time Interim UFC Heavyweight Champion, 1 Time Interim Pride Heavyweight Champion, 1 Time Pride Heavyweight Champion
4-3 in UFC
33-7-1-1

Lil Nog, turning 36 this year
3-2 in UFC
20-5 MMA

Vitor Belfort, turning 35 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion, UFC 12 Tournament Winner
10-5 in UFC
21-9 MMA

Quinton Jackson, turning 34 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion
7-3 in UFC
32-9 MMA

B.J. Penn, turning 34 this year
1 Time UFC Lightweight Champion, 1 Time UFC Welterweight Champion
12-7-2 in UFC
16-8-2 MMA

Forrest Griffin, turning 33 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion
9-5 in UFC
18-7 MMA

Frank Mir, turning 33 this year
1 Time UFC Heavyweight Champion
1 Time Interim Heavyweight Champion
14-5 in UFC
16-5 MMA


Others
Kenny Florian, turning 36 this year -- hasn't won a title.
Urijah Faber, turning 33 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon.
Shogun Rua, turning 31 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon.
Lyoto Machida, turning 34 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon
Vladimir Matyushenko, turned 41 this year -- Won IFL championship, but was never a headliner in UFC
Josh Koscheck, turning 35 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon, has never won a major title.
Jon Fitch, turning 34 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon, has never won a major title.

Thoughts?
 
C

Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
Chamber said:
Depends if they consider it the UFC Hall of Fame or the MMA Hall of Fame.
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well since there's no MMA Hall of Fame, it would be UFC =/ I suggest providing your opinion based on merit rather than their UFC prestige.

Also, KenFlo is "done" but I don't believe he has officially "retired"
 
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TheNatural

My Member!
Caspel said:
With many of the old guard being ushered out and UFC pushing forward with trying to market new stars, I'm curious to hear thoughts on how many fights each of the fighters from the old guard have and if they are "UFC Hall of Fame" bound. Rank em if you could based on who is getting in the hall of fame and who isn't (based on merits, and not Poster Boy status). They are in order by age as of now.

Dan Henderson, turning 42 this year
UFC 17 Middleweight Tournament Winner, 1 Time Pride Middleweight Champion, 1 Time Pride Welterweight Champion, 2005 Pride Grand Prix Winner, 1 Time Strikeforce Light-Heavyweight Champion
6-2 in UFC
29-8 MMA

Sean Sherk, turning 39 this year
1 Time UFC Lightweight Champion
10-3 in UFC
36-4 MMA

Rich Franklin, turning 38 this year
1 Time UFC Middleweight Champion,
13-5 in UFC
28-6 MMA

Tito Ortiz, turned 37 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion
16-10 in UFC
16-10 MMA

Anderson Silva, turning 37 this year
1 Time UFC Middleweight Champion
14-0 in UFC
31-4 MMA

Wanderlei Silva, turning 36 this year
1 Time Pride Middleweight Champion, 2003 Pride Grand Prix Winner
2-4 in UFC
34-11-1-1 MMA

Big Nog, Turning 36 this year
1 Time Interim UFC Heavyweight Champion, 1 Time Interim Pride Heavyweight Champion, 1 Time Pride Heavyweight Champion
4-3 in UFC
33-7-1-1

Lil Nog, turning 36 this year
3-2 in UFC
20-5 MMA

Vitor Belfort, turning 35 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion, UFC 12 Tournament Winner
10-5 in UFC
21-9 MMA

Quinton Jackson, turning 34 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion
7-3 in UFC
32-9 MMA

B.J. Penn, turning 34 this year
1 Time UFC Lightweight Champion, 1 Time UFC Welterweight Champion
12-7-2 in UFC
16-8-2 MMA

Forrest Griffin, turning 33 this year
1 Time UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion
9-5 in UFC
18-7 MMA

Frank Mir, turning 33 this year
1 Time UFC Heavyweight Champion
1 Time Interim Heavyweight Champion
14-5 in UFC
16-5 MMA


Others
Kenny Florian, turning 36 this year -- hasn't won a title.
Urijah Faber, turning 33 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon.
Shogun Rua, turning 31 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon.
Lyoto Machida, turning 34 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon
Vladimir Matyushenko, turned 41 this year -- Won IFL championship, but was never a headliner in UFC
Josh Koscheck, turning 35 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon, has never won a major title.
Jon Fitch, turning 34 this year -- won't be retiring anytime soon, has never won a major title.

Thoughts?
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I can't rank that many. Put it this way though, I think if the MMA Hall of Fame was like the MLB Hall of Fame, the first balloters would be Dan Henderson, Tito Ortiz, Anderson Silva, and Rampage Jackson. I didn't go through the Others list yet, but that's who I would put on my "first balloters" list.
 
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Maklershed

Member
Before any of those guys I'd suggest Royce Gracie. A fighter that made UFC more technical than a drunken fist fight at a bar.

EDIT: Or is he already in it?

EDIT 2: Actually this has me wondering now - who is in the hall of fame?
 
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Ben Pierce

Member
Jesus fucking christ.

I just read about Diaz failing his piss test and testing positive for marijuana. I thought he won the fight, and he was robbed. But you know what? Fuck him. This is the second time he's done this, and when you sign a contract, you play by their rules. The dumbass should retire. He just so fucking ignorant sometimes. Don't like promoting the fight? Don't fight for the UFC. Don't like to not smoke pot? Stop smoking while you train. Btw, this is coming from someone who enjoys the plant himself, but it's totally within the right of the athletic commission and the UFC to dump his ass, even though they won't. He's really his own worst enemy.
 
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Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
Heel said:
From the top list, I'd remove Sherk and Lil' Nog.

Bottom list, I'd keep Shogun. Faber is borderline.
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Well I am also interested in hearing what everyone has to say on how many fights each fighter may potentially have. I believe Matt Hughes has one fight left in him. Tito apparently has one more, too. Sherk probably has one, too.
 
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Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
yacobod said:
shogun rua has better hof credentials than qrj. It aint even close.
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I didn't include Shogun in the first list because Shogun has much more time on his hands with his age and fighting ability in comparison to Rampage. I believe Rampage is closer to retirement than Shogun, and thus, I put him in the original list rather than the others since I predict Rampage has 2-3 good fights left in him before becoming the next Tito.
 
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Luixfern

Member
Ben Pierce said:
Jesus fucking christ.

I just read about Diaz failing his piss test and testing positive for marijuana. I thought he won the fight, and he was robbed. But you know what? Fuck him. This is the second time he's done this, and when you sign a contract, you play by their rules. The dumbass should retire. He just so fucking ignorant sometimes. Don't like promoting the fight? Don't fight for the UFC. Don't like to not smoke pot? Stop smoking while you train. Btw, this is coming from someone who enjoys the plant himself, but it's totally within the right of the athletic commission and the UFC to dump his ass, even though they won't. He's really his own worst enemy.
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I see your point. At the same time its stupid that its a ban substance. What advantage does one smoking weed give the opponent?
 
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Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
Maklershed said:
I would say you could persuade me on these two.
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Yeah, if Sylvia makes his way back to the UFC after a more impressive win-streak outside of the promotion, he could see his way into the HoF if he was successful with his return.
 
EYEL1NER

EYEL1NER

Member
I've seen all of your opinions on it, but I am excited for the Tito/Forrest fight.
I love Forrest Griffin and even if he may put on a boring fight, I still can't help but get excited during the build-up to it.

I also can't stand Tito Ortiz, so I will enjoy my daydreams about Forrest literally kicking Tito's head off of his shoulders and into the crowd. He probably won't even win the fight, with my luck, but he's the guy who got me into MMA and I can't help but root for him.
 
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parrotbeak

Member
EYEL1NER said:
I've seen all of your opinions on it, but I am excited for the Tito/Forrest fight.
I love Forrest Griffin and even if he may put on a boring fight, I still can't help but get excited during the build-up to it.

I also can't stand Tito Ortiz, so I will enjoy my daydreams about Forrest literally kicking Tito's head off of his shoulders and into the crowd. He probably won't even win the fight, with my luck, but he's the guy who got me into MMA and I can't help but root for him.
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Did you watch their first two fights?

I don't remember the first one very well, except that I remember which bar I was at and arguing with my friend that I thought Griffin won. It was close. Actually, I don't remember the second one very well either.
 
EYEL1NER

EYEL1NER

Member
parrotbeak said:
Did you watch their first two fights?

I don't remember the first one very well, except that I remember which bar I was at and arguing with my friend that I thought Griffin won. It was close. Actually, I don't remember the second one very well either.
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The first fight was a bit before me getting into MMA. I started paying attention to MMA while in Korea in 2007 when a buddy showed me the Griffin/Bonnar fight.

I saw the second fight though. I don't remember much except for Tito trying to hype everyone up before-hand, about how he got his surgery done and it was the first time he felt 100% in years and it was the best Tito the world was gonna see. Then he lost and said some shit to Rogan during the interview about something being wrong with his neck or back or something, making excuses.
 
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TheNatural

My Member!
Brittney with dat girlfriend trolling:

The big day - for women - is just a few days away. Guys know it's get the job done or else on Valentine's Day.

Dave Farra did a nice job of rounding up several stars from both the female and male sides of the mixed martial arts world to get their takes on Feb. 14. This is refreshing to watch as we find out that some of the ladies aren't big fans of V-Day either.

...

Brittney Palmer gives advice to women saying the best gift for your man is a BP calendar or the March issue of Playboy magazine.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...-bunch-mma-stars-valentine-day-211144983.html

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Maklershed

Member
I'm looking forward to the PB pictures but honestly I don't see how anything can top that "Britney has a fat ass" video. That is just perfection.
 
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Master Thespian

Member
Caspel said:
well since there's no MMA Hall of Fame, it would be UFC =/ I suggest providing your opinion based on merit rather than their UFC prestige.
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I think that anything done in PRIDE should count since it was bought by the UFC and it's the only organization that was ever on equal footing with them.
 
dream

dream

Member
Pat is absolutely a Hall of Famer for pioneering the "let's get a group of guys together and give them the same homogenized just win baby style" thing that has ruined the mixed martials.
 
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