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MMA |OT2| - Thread of Athletes, Fighters, Personalities, and Sports Entertainment

So apparently, Alistair Overeem applied for a license from the NSAC this morning to fight JDS. This should be interesting.

Also, TUF Brazil episode 3 is now up to stream at UFC.com
 

yacobod

Banned
TOP 10 HW Mark Hunt said:
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how huge would it be if Hunt actually gets the title shot?
 

tass0

Banned
how huge would it be if Hunt actually gets the title shot?

I'll be disappointed, but it wouldn't be the first time the UFC gave an unwarranted title shot. *cough* Couture *cough* Lesnar *cough*.

If it's not Werdum/Mir, or a top 10 opponent, then that would be pretty lame.
 
I'll be disappointed, but it wouldn't be the first time the UFC gave an unwarranted title shot. *cough* Couture *cough* Lesnar *cough*.

If it's not Werdum/Mir, or a top 10 opponent, then that would be pretty lame.
I wouldn't mind Werdum for the whole revenge angle and all, but let's be real. Mir would step in the octagon and get KO'd in the first, EASILY. Hunt has a better chance of being competitive due to the way their styles match up. Fuck a ranking.
 

yacobod

Banned
As crazy as it sounds, Hunt stylistically is the best potential match-up for JDS, and might be the only guy on the roster that has a real shot to win.

Plus say if Hunt wins, and Cain beats Mir, Uncle Dana can have his mexican golden boy sugar cain velasquez back as champion if he faces Hunt. I'd figure Cain would be the favorite in that match since he will be able to wrestle Hunt. Then they can setup a JDS/Cain rematch. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities.
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
LHW and HW rankings are a mess anyway. Give us what we want. On a side note anyone else find it almost surreal at how different the concept of overeem vs hunt in pride would be to overeem vs hunt today?
 

yacobod

Banned
they already fought.

reem don't want anything to do with Hunt standing so would likely go for takedowns again.

if the fight stayed standing, hunt by KO :)
 

Heel

Member
I agree, as a hardcore fan, Hunt is a better match up than Werdum or Mir, rankings and buyrate be damned. If JDS can KO Hunt he has just legitimized himself in my eyes. If Hunt wins the strap the MMA world implodes.
 

tass0

Banned
I wouldn't mind Werdum for the whole revenge angle and all, but let's be real. Mir would step in the octagon and get KO'd in the first, EASILY. Hunt has a better chance of being competitive due to the way their styles match up. Fuck a ranking.

Sure, I think it'll be a competitive fight because of how their styles match up (I can see Hunt winning with JDS' awful defense), but I hate when people get unwarranted title shots.

Mir and Werdum deserve it far more than Hunt.

Wasn't MMAGAF giving Fedor shit for fighting Mark Hunt? Using that to discredit his legacy? Yet now everybody is begging for JDS to fight Hunt.

At least Fedor fought Hunt when he was a top ranked fighter.

MMA didn't evolve, not the HW division at least. Junior Dos Santos and Brock Lesnar being champion proves that.
 

yacobod

Banned
Please explain why JDS being champ discredits the entire HW division?

and tass0, you might be misreading mma-gaf. if hunt were to win the UFC HW title, it would give fedor another win over a UFC HW champ further bolstering fedor's resume. you could add him to the list of other former greats arlovski, sylvia, coleman, randleman, and big nog.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
Please explain why JDS being champ discredits the entire HW division?

and tass0, you might be misreading mma-gaf. if hunt were to win the UFC HW title, it would give fedor another win over a UFC HW champ further bolstering fedor's resume. you could add him to the list of other former greats arlovski, sylvia, coleman, randleman, and big nog.

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Heel

Member
Wasn't MMAGAF giving Fedor shit for fighting Mark Hunt? Using that to discredit his legacy? Yet now everybody is begging for JDS to fight Hunt.

At least Fedor fought Hunt when he was a top ranked fighter..

Yes, and I'm sure they now see the error of their ways. Hunt winning the strap would really put a cherry on top.
 

tass0

Banned
Please explain why JDS being champ discredits the entire HW division?

and tass0, you might be misreading mma-gaf. if hunt were to win the UFC HW title, it would give fedor another win over a UFC HW champ further bolstering fedor's resume. you could add him to the list of other former greats arlovski, sylvia, coleman, randleman, and big nog.

It doesn't discredit the HW division, it just proves how little the HW division has "evolved".

Everybody uses that reason as to why former greats failed to acquire glory in modern MMA (Cro Cop, Fedor, Nogueira), ignoring the real reason: ageing and declination.

I really don't see how Junior Dos Santos or Cain Velasquez are much different than Fedor and Cro Cop.

Then there's Brock Lesnar, the one-dimensional wrestler with no striking ability at all, and minimal JJ, who managed to not only take the UFC belt, but defended it twice.

I dunno, if I see Mark Hunt get the title shot, and give JDS a competitive fight, then I'll be really disappointed.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
It doesn't discredit the HW division, it just proves how little the HW division has "evolved".

Everybody uses that reason as to why former greats failed to acquire glory in modern MMA (Cro Cop, Fedor, Nogueira), ignoring the real reason: ageing and declination.

I really don't see how Junior Dos Santos or Cain Velasquez are much different than Fedor and Cro Cop.

Then there's Brock Lesnar, the one-dimensional wrestler with no striking ability at all, and minimal JJ, who managed to not only take the UFC belt, but defended it twice.

I dunno, if I see Mark Hunt get the title shot, and give JDS a competitive fight, then I'll be really disappointed.

Yeah because Fedor getting his ass beat by a light heavyweight he's several years younger than in Strikeforce, who fought in the same division as him is proof of aging.

Seriously, why do you fucks have to ruin this? Mark Hunt isn't going to be considered an all time great, but he's a modern day Tank Abbott type fighter. A throwback to the old days of UFC, so he's interesting. He could replace a guy who's doing horse roids, when the only thing Mark Hunt does is hamburgers.

He's got a punchers chance, and him winning legitimizes Fedor no more than it "legitimizes" Melvin Manhoef or Sean McCorkle or any of the guys he lost to in his 6 fight losing streak.

It doesn't have to be read into any more than that, and once again Fedor is brought up for some reason when he has nothing to do with this. You wanna go talk about Fedor, go create a LttP 2005 thread on him and you can circle jerk with the rest of the Kool Aid drinkers about what washed up fighters and cans he beat, and how he himself was washed up even though he lost to a 40 year old LHW.

It's 2012, get the fuck over it.
 

tass0

Banned
Once again, TheNatural bringing up the age argument.

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Anderson Silva was in his late 20s when he lost to Takase, Chonan, and Otsuka, therefore, he sucks, because he lost (to scrubs) in his prime.

Nope, every fighter ever peaks and declines at the exact same period.

And LOL at comparing Hunt to Tank Abbott.

TheNatural, #1 P4P worst poster in MMAGAF.

I miss the old thrad, before people acted like basketball fans.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
Once again, TheNatural bringing up the age argument.

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Anderson Silva was in his late 20s when he lost to Takase, Chonan, and Otsuka, therefore, he sucks, because he lost (to scrubs) in his prime.

Nope, every fighter ever peaks and declines at the exact same period.

And LOL at comparing Hunt to Tank Abbott.

TheNatural, #1 P4P worst poster in MMAGAF.

I miss the old thrad, before people acted like basketball fans.

The argument doesn't work in reverse. If you're done in your early 30's, chances are, it's because the sport passed you by and you weren't really as good (or people thought as good) as they thought. Tito didn't get old, as much as his style was exposed as fighters got better and weren't going to let him GnP them.

Bringing up who Silva lost too years ago when he would have crushed those guys at any point thereafter doesn't mean shit, he was basically an amateur compared to where he is now. He evolved, others like Fedor didn't, and were exposed and people like you couldn't take it so give the 'aging' excuse, even though his fights showed he was outclassed (and outsmarted in Werdum's case) instead of an aging fighter who gassed late in a fight and couldn't keep up.

I miss when we can talk about 2012 fights instead of constantly comparing whatever happens now to a guy who hasn't done shit in 7 years.

PS - Hunt is like Abbott not in style, but the fact that fans root for a guy who likes to bang and take punches (ala Nelson as well) and doesn't fit the mold of an atheltic versatile fighter that are dominant in today's MMA
 

tass0

Banned
"Fedor" should be a banned keyword, it always seems to rile up a tirade from Natural.

Emelianenko, Nogueira, Cro Cop, Henderson, Wanderlei, etc etc suck.

Brock Lesnar #1 GOAT

Just bleed.
 

GungHo

Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Has Uncle Dana commented on this yet? One thing's clear, Rampage does not have a publicist. Who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
This is the same guy who ran from the cops in a raised truck with his own face and chest painted on it. The man is not a deep thinker.

Ya'll ready to see a Tickle fight this Friday?
If it means that his camera time is drastically reduced, yes. We get it. He's a passive aggressive, whiny man. Find something else to film. Like a fish tank.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
"Fedor" should be a banned keyword, it always seems to rile up a tirade from Natural.

Emelianenko, Nogueira, Cro Cop, Henderson, Wanderlei, etc etc suck.

Brock Lesnar #1 GOAT

Just bleed.

We were fine talking about Mark Hunt here in 2012 before you trying to make some irrelevent tie-in to Fedor when Hunt was "really in his prime" or whatever bullshit that is. You brought it up, no one else. People just want to see an underdog with a strikers chance fight for the title instead of seeing slow ass Mir or a rematch with Cain right now. That has nothing to to with Fedor, now or then. I mean, Dana could easily just pick another guy on the undercard in Big Foot who beat Fedor to a bloody pulp if that's what mattered, but it doesn't, and no one wants to see that fight.

And nice strawman there about who you think I like. At least I respect most of those guys, and Henderson is one of my favorite fighters. Mainly because he doesn't need excuses about how old he is to put on a good fight and be competitive, instead of getting run from the B leagues and taking circus fights like a guy six years younger than him.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
That's enough Goldie.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I'll be damned if Mark Hunt's run gets ruined because of this. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get the shot, this is exactly the reason. Dana doesn't want to hear about Fedor any more than I do, and I'm sure in 2012 he doesn't want to hear about how an almost .500 fighter who lost to Fedor six years ago has the strap.

So when you're sitting there wondering how and why you just saw Struve getting KO'ed by Cigano in 5 seconds and why Huntu didn't get the shot, you'll know who to blame.
 
Even though Hendo's chances of beating JDS are ooof, how glorious would it be for him to win and Jones beat Rashad? Would make Hendo vs Jones that much more bad ass. Even if Hendo loses to JDS, it's not like that hurts his chances for title fight against Jones.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
My doctor at the VA said she can give it to me at the age of 30. This is a doctor at a military hospital. They are fucking strict. So yeah you guys should be able to get it easy.

That's crazy. Contre said at age 30 it just drops 1% per year. He said he's never seen a "clean" athlete need TRT though, it's always the ex roiders that need it because their endocrine system is fucked up.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Conte said at age 30 it just drops 1% per year. He said he's never seen a "clean" athlete need TRT though, it's always the ex roiders that need it because their endocrine system is fucked up.

That's interesting, didn't know that. If true, yet another reason why TRT shouldn't be tolerated if roiding isn't.
 
That's crazy. Contre said at age 30 it just drops 1% per year. He said he's never seen a "clean" athlete need TRT though, it's always the ex roiders that need it because their endocrine system is fucked up.

My nephew is on it because he has tiny balls syndrome. His doctor is seen by a lot of professional athletes from Cali. He's met some fighters, NFL players, and a baseball player in the waiting room.
 
Yeah because Fedor getting his ass beat by a light heavyweight he's several years younger than in Strikeforce, who fought in the same division as him is proof of aging.

Seriously, why do you fucks have to ruin this? Mark Hunt isn't going to be considered an all time great, but he's a modern day Tank Abbott type fighter. A throwback to the old days of UFC, so he's interesting. He could replace a guy who's doing horse roids, when the only thing Mark Hunt does is hamburgers.

He's got a punchers chance, and him winning legitimizes Fedor no more than it "legitimizes" Melvin Manhoef or Sean McCorkle or any of the guys he lost to in his 6 fight losing streak.

It doesn't have to be read into any more than that, and once again Fedor is brought up for some reason when he has nothing to do with this. You wanna go talk about Fedor, go create a LttP 2005 thread on him and you can circle jerk with the rest of the Kool Aid drinkers about what washed up fighters and cans he beat, and how he himself was washed up even though he lost to a 40 year old LHW.

It's 2012, get the fuck over it.
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