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MMA |OT3| When you lose you're a can, when you win you're unstoppable.
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TheNatural
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Sensei Jackson needs time to study the tapes mang.
Vitor took the fight, but Bones hasn't accepted. Will they have enough time to study the tapes? THE TAPES. THEY ARE THE KEY. TO EVERYTHING.
BigJonsson
Member
Ariel Helwani ‏@arielhelwani
Don't go sleeping on me just yet. I got one more HOLY CRAP story for you before we can hopefully put this day to bed.
He just tweeted that, something other than Belfort?
Don't go sleeping on me just yet. I got one more HOLY CRAP story for you before we can hopefully put this day to bed.
He just tweeted that, something other than Belfort?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Because the UFC knows he's not a credible opponent, he was just the only guy they could get on 8 days notice. Give them 3 weeks and they can get someone a little less shitty like Vitor. 7 weeks and maybe Anthony Johnson will agree. If they wait out 10 weeks maybe Ken Shamrock will take the fight.
TheNatural
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Yes it was tweeted right after.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Can Ryan Martinez make 205?
Let's just say that if Cyborg was a couple inches taller and could make the weight then I'd have no reason to doubt that she would take the fight.
Is this where the sport is now? Where fighters are actively ducking the champion to cement their position in 2nd place?
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Oh shit... Fedor vs. Brock incoming.
polyh3dron
Banned
guys, what the fuck.
GUYS, WHAT THE FUCK
Why did 151 even get cancelled
GUYS, WHAT THE FUCK
Why did 151 even get cancelled
Ninja Scooter
Member
Triple H just lost, which going by UFC standards means he's in line for a title shot.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Is Ariel's potential megaton related to the possibility that Jones' DUI shit may stop him from entering Canada?
If only Boogie was here to answer that one.
If only Boogie was here to answer that one.
TheNatural
My Member!
Comeon Ariel, post this shit dude.
BigJonsson
Member
Already tweeted that it won't be a problem
Also this will be the 2nd of three Toronto cards to have 2 title fights
slightconfuse
Banned
man just saw all the crazy news going on today. What is crazy is that they canceled it outright.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Also this will be the 2nd of three Toronto cards to have 2 title fights
They've got to make up for Calgary somehow.
TheNatural
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From Sherdog:
Lance Pugmire ‏@latimespugmire
@lorenzofertitta tells me Shogun Rua also turned down shot at Jones to set up Belfort as Sept. 22 opponent. #UFC
Pugmire is an LA Times writer. Not sure if he's being legit or a smartass (I mean that. I have learned not to read too much into anything today).
Lance Pugmire ‏@latimespugmire
@lorenzofertitta tells me Shogun Rua also turned down shot at Jones to set up Belfort as Sept. 22 opponent. #UFC
Pugmire is an LA Times writer. Not sure if he's being legit or a smartass (I mean that. I have learned not to read too much into anything today).
Ninja Scooter
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I wonder if they even asked Weidman? UFC has their heads so far up their asses.
TheNatural
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Anderson Silva was close to saving UFC 151.
According to UFC president Dana White, Silva, the middleweight champion, personally called him just moments after he announced on Thursday that UFC 151 was canceled after Jon Jones turned down a fight against Chael Sonnen. Silva, who admitted he wasn't in the best shape, volunteered to fight on eight days' notice in Las Vegas against another light heavyweight fighter. Unfortunately, he was a few hours late as the promotion had already decided to scrap the event.
According to UFC president Dana White, Silva, the middleweight champion, personally called him just moments after he announced on Thursday that UFC 151 was canceled after Jon Jones turned down a fight against Chael Sonnen. Silva, who admitted he wasn't in the best shape, volunteered to fight on eight days' notice in Las Vegas against another light heavyweight fighter. Unfortunately, he was a few hours late as the promotion had already decided to scrap the event.
BigJonsson
Member
I'm shocked BJ hasn't tweeted that he'd fight Jones
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Did Shogun prefer to get cut rather than face Jones?
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/238873657429090304
edit: oops, didn't see that someone mentioned it already.
edit: oops, didn't see that someone mentioned it already.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
So instead of Jones vs. Sonnen we would have got Silva vs. Griggs?
BigJonsson
Member
Silva vs Silva
TheNatural
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Once again, Anderson proves he has all the class and honor of the GOAT, offering to save the show to help fighters earn their pay and fans save their tickets and travel costs.
Glad tonight could end on a good note, with the true GOAT showing the heart of a champion. Glad to know one champion is trying to save shows instead of wreck them (and Bentleys.)
Glad tonight could end on a good note, with the true GOAT showing the heart of a champion. Glad to know one champion is trying to save shows instead of wreck them (and Bentleys.)
UFC spreading more lies about Shogun.
BigJonsson
Member
Dana would not want to hold that in an arena that already has tickets sold.....
If that ever happens it'll be in a stadium with sky high prices
Difference is that Bones turned down a fight from a 185 pounder with no prep.
For Machida and Shogun, this is most likely their last chance at a fight against Jones.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
my guess because belfort already signed the contract.
TheNatural
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Ariel Helwani‏@arielhelwani
According to Machida's camp, they will release a statement tomorrow detailing why they turned down the 152 title shot against Bones.
According to Machida's camp, they will release a statement tomorrow detailing why they turned down the 152 title shot against Bones.
Canderson is not willing to fight legit competition at 205. I'm sure he'd have no problem stepping in and fighting Ryan Jimmo.
BigJonsson
Member
lol @ Joe Rogan on Newsradio......
polyh3dron
Banned
Pugmire is legit.
It's one thing to turn down a short notice fight, another thing entirely to reject a replacement when you've had a full camp. Jones still proved he is bitch-made today above all others.
RBelong2Us
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Hi guys! Back!
This is all pretty ridiculous. Jones should have just taken the Sonnen fight, its such a gimmie given all the circumstances. Train and prepare for what? You were training for a far bigger threat in Hendo. You're afraid that you wont have time to prepare for a guy thats coming up to LHW and hasnt been training a all? SMH
And f*ck Machida for getting a title shot every time he beats a can. Title shot after beating old man Couture...title shot after beating Bader... are you kidding me? I'd much rather see Sonnen, Weidman, Belfort, and a hundred other dudes get a shot before seeing Machida die a second death.
This is all pretty ridiculous. Jones should have just taken the Sonnen fight, its such a gimmie given all the circumstances. Train and prepare for what? You were training for a far bigger threat in Hendo. You're afraid that you wont have time to prepare for a guy thats coming up to LHW and hasnt been training a all? SMH
And f*ck Machida for getting a title shot every time he beats a can. Title shot after beating old man Couture...title shot after beating Bader... are you kidding me? I'd much rather see Sonnen, Weidman, Belfort, and a hundred other dudes get a shot before seeing Machida die a second death.
parrotbeak
Member
Are you guys arguing about who is the biggest douche here? They are all douches. Only douches get in the fight business, or for that matter watch ultimate fighting.
Also Andy can't fight again until 2013 when it's for the belt but he can fight on 8 days notice?
Also Andy can't fight again until 2013 when it's for the belt but he can fight on 8 days notice?
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
Time for every LHW in the top ten to say they offered to fight Bones on short notice. Earn them cool points with Uncle Dana.
parrotbeak
Member
Waiting for Brian Stann to say he wants to fight Hendo.
IMACOMPUTA
Member
Silva was willing to fight at LHW on 8 days notice?
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A More Normal Bird
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LMAO. Vitor? No words. I honestly don't believe it. Helwani's promising another megaton - I'm guessing it's that Jones-Hendo is on and this entire clusterfuck was a social psych experiment.
Loathe as I am to use the d-word, Vitor sure as shit doesn't deserve this fight. Lyoto didn't either, not after he was gifted the last one. Sonnen didn't, but 8 days is 8 days. Short notice fights disadvantage both fighters but to pretend Jones was taking any real risk going against Chael is pretty funny.
This situation should never have occurred. They should have had Hendo checked earlier and had a prepared and reasonable opponent waiting in the wings. Best practice would probably be a top contender or top 5/10 matchup scheduled on every card with a title fight (or the nearest possible card). It worked out great for 137, we got Diaz/Penn.
That said, it shouldn't have been Greg Jackson's or Jones' choice to make. Aerts fought Hoost wearing Semmy Schilt's shorts because he didn't have a pair of his own. Overeem cut short a vacation for Hunt. Less on the line in these examples obviously. Whose to say how Greg and Bones would have acted if the UFC had got their shit sorted and left less wriggle room for these sly coils and twists around the belt, immobilising it safe and sound in New Mexico.
Loathe as I am to use the d-word, Vitor sure as shit doesn't deserve this fight. Lyoto didn't either, not after he was gifted the last one. Sonnen didn't, but 8 days is 8 days. Short notice fights disadvantage both fighters but to pretend Jones was taking any real risk going against Chael is pretty funny.
This situation should never have occurred. They should have had Hendo checked earlier and had a prepared and reasonable opponent waiting in the wings. Best practice would probably be a top contender or top 5/10 matchup scheduled on every card with a title fight (or the nearest possible card). It worked out great for 137, we got Diaz/Penn.
That said, it shouldn't have been Greg Jackson's or Jones' choice to make. Aerts fought Hoost wearing Semmy Schilt's shorts because he didn't have a pair of his own. Overeem cut short a vacation for Hunt. Less on the line in these examples obviously. Whose to say how Greg and Bones would have acted if the UFC had got their shit sorted and left less wriggle room for these sly coils and twists around the belt, immobilising it safe and sound in New Mexico.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
think silva did it more to save the other fighters expenses and probably as a favor for dana.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I find it mildly amusing that today is actually Dan Henderson's birthday.
TheNatural
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Somehow I see like two dozen posters who never post in here just based on Bones yellow streak.
As Dusty Rhodes would say, "its good for bidness"
As Dusty Rhodes would say, "its good for bidness"
100% agree.
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