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The end of Pride was not good for him. He's went 7-8-1 since then.
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The end of Pride was not good for him. He's went 7-8-1 since then.
Oh you
It was even funnier he was considered the #1 or #2 185er next to Filho, Hendo and Misaki lmao.
Funny how Pride just made everyone seem better when in reality they got their shit pushed in once they stepped in the cage.
Roland Deschain
Member
Bisping. Outside of Henderson I don't remember Bisping ever being manhandled. The Wanderlei fight could have gone either way (if I remember correctly).
A little in the Hammill fight. Bisping isn't a terrible fighter. He gets a lot of flack for being the stereotypical annoying British guy. He's going to put a hurting on Stann. Well not really but at least win the decision.
Bisping is solid, but he won't be laying Stann out via any one-hitters. Stann on the other hand can do that to Bisping. Bisping won't slam Stann's back out, he'll play the striking circling UD game.
But, the longer the fight goes on the better chance of Bisping getting a stoppage due to Stann gassing. Safer bet is clearly Bisping, though I hope for Stann to win it.
But, the longer the fight goes on the better chance of Bisping getting a stoppage due to Stann gassing. Safer bet is clearly Bisping, though I hope for Stann to win it.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
I liked Jamey Sheridan, Rob Lowe, Gary Sinise, and Miguel Ferrer's portrayals. Ferrer particularly added dimensions to Lloyd that didn't exist in the books and it was nice to see. Corin Nemec also did well in protraying the jealousy of Harold, but he didn't do so well in portraying any other aspect of the character, though admittedly a lot of the reasons for Harold's fall (particularly the diary) were omitted. I never liked Nadine to begin with, so it's hard to judge Laura San Giacomo's work. It also cemented my eternal dislike of Shawnee Smith and my belief that she shits up everything she's in.
As far as the portrayal of the story... I think seeing it on the screen highlights the some of the central weaknesses of The Stand. The entire thing comes to a drag in Boulder. Mother Abigail is still an extension of Steven King's favorite trope. The religiosity is still heavy handed, but it's admittedly magnified in the miniseries when you're actually seeing the goddamn hand of God touch off the nuke. The biggest losses to the story in the filmed version are explorations of Harold and the fact that they didn't really address how fucked up it was to program Tom, which robbed Fran of some sympathy.
I think it's an underscore that not every book needs to be made into a movie/series. Some books, because they're otherwise contained or easy to show, like Shogun, benefit from adaptation. Others are best left to the written word and the imagination of the reader.
Host Samurai
Member
Just out of curiosity, who do you think is the best LHW/HW of all time? and ill just leave it at that.
Bisping is weird. I dont know if hes overrated or underrated. He's had some questionable performances. He looked awful in the Mayhem fight, as did Mayhem, but looked very good in the Sonnen fight. I'd say he won round 2. Was competitive with Wand and could have gotten the decision win over Evans. I think he lost the Hamill fight though. I find the Bisping/Stann fight very fascinating to see just where they stack up as they have both had the same opponents. On paper Bisping should beat Stann, but I personally think Stann is going to TKO/KO him.
Uh, what? Let's be real and acknowledge the UFC alternatives of the era. You can make the case that the exact opposite is true.
Hell, the UFC title holder jumped ship to PRIDE and lost, eventually to be replaced by the winner of David Terrell and Evan Tanner.
He torn his right biceps and his fiancée killed herself in the same year.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
That can throw you off your game.
Depending on who you talk to Bisping is either a pretty good fighter or a total can. He's always struck me as rounding out the top five in his weight class. So far every one he's lost to are impressive fighters, and all but Sonnen may go down as MMA legends. A loss to Stann would upset that balance, but so far he's done alright.
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
I don't think fighters should fight after someone close to them has died. Stann's brother in law killed himself. Fighters in similar situations haven't had a good record recently. Shields, Hominick, and probably more I can't think of.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Stann's a Marine. He'll be alright. You get use to people dying after being in the military long enough.
Host Samurai
Member
Didn't this also happen to Vitor at some point in his career?
Bisping's suit during the presser beats Stann's.
ldcommando
Banned
Vitor´s sister disappeared. Really messed him up.
I remember Cerrone fighting (and winning) the same night he received news of his grandfather´s passing. He was very emotional but still got the w.
That's some NotsoBadMMA right there.
Host Samurai
Member
Funny how the 2 guys in your avi didn't have much success in PRIDE.
And who got their "shit pushed"
Rampage and Shogun both beat UFC poster boy Chuck
Big Nog beat Sylvia and UFC poster boy Randy
Coleman beat Bonnar
Hendo is KOing everyone. His only 2 losses are former Pride fighters
Hunt KOing Kongo
Overeem putting a beating on Brock
Little Nog TKOing Tito (UFC GOAT LHW)
Former Pride fighters are far more relevant than the UFC fighters from that era.
The only 2 fighters that didn't have much success was Wand and CC. Wand was in a huge decline by the time he came to the UFC and CC was getting old and couldn't adjust to the cage.
Maklershed
Member
And the weird thing is they postponed it like 2 or 3 days ago already. Not sure how that happens unless its been just a mess wherever its at.
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
Rumble actually made weight?
He made 205 last time iirc?
Jean Valjean
Member
Whats goin on tonight?
Host Samurai
Member
Rumble would struggle to make 265 if he had to.
TheKaeptain
Banned
THERE!
TheKaeptain
Banned
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TheKaeptain
Banned
Poly you have no idea how bad I want to skip dinner tomorrow and go get some beers and watch the fight.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy how some of the guys from PRIDE from the early-mid 00s are still around, and most of them are even competing at the highest level still.
Shogun, Wanderlei Silva, Big Nog, Lil Nog, Rampage, Anderson Silva, Dan Henderson, Takanori Gomi, Josh Barnett, Alistair Overeem, Fabricio Werdum, Mark Hunt. I mean, fuck.
Compare that to the UFC guys from the same period. Where's Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Tim Sylvia, Jens Pulver, Andrei Arlovski?
There's a few guys still competing like BJ, Franklin, Hughes, Belfort I guess, but other than that, they're all gone.
I figured this thread would appreciate it most, so I'm dropping it in here. The team I run just shipped a UFC app - IT'S FREE - called "UFC on Xbox LIVE". If you've got a gold account, you can make picks on who's going to win, how they're going to win, and earn points based on your accuracy. Leaderboards track you and 99 of your Live friends as well.
We made it for iOS, Android and WinPhone so no matter your smartphone allegiance you can talk shit with your boys.
We made it for iOS, Android and WinPhone so no matter your smartphone allegiance you can talk shit with your boys.
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
Really slick app from what i used in the beta.
Thanks. It's the 2nd sports-related app I've shipped this month so I'm dog tired...but also really looking forward to seeing how it holds up leading into tomorrow's PPV. Any feedback that you guys have, feel free to PM me as we're always looking for ways to make it better for MMA fans.
Ninja Scooter
Member
You guys need to add a can crushing mini game to the iOS version.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Magritiaville my friends.
i agree with basically everything but would add that the most powerful stuff in the book, to me at least, were basically glossed over or completely ignored in the mini-series. lloyd's dread at being locked in the cell to starve to death. larry's nightmare trip through the tunnel exiting new york. EVERYTHING about harold, including the worst casting i have ever fucking seen. the kid. the entire re-write of nadine's story and her battle with her destiny. everything you mentioned. and most of all? the actual spread and effect of captain trips was basically non-existent.
i don't know how you do a 1,000 page story justice in a few hours with an obviously low budget, but the miniseries was so, so bad. eye rollingly bad. i cant name a single thing, other then maybe the performances of gary sinise and rob lowe (despite the horrible dialogue and actual filming and pacing) that was even bearable. shitty awful stuff.
i found the book to be good, and even great at times, but definitely not without its flaws. yet, it deserved much better then that.
BigJonsson
Member
Anyone watch TUF?
Is it just me or are there way more "bro" bombs being dropped this year, must have been 100 BROs tonight........most from pink hair douche.......he better get punched in his face hard
Is it just me or are there way more "bro" bombs being dropped this year, must have been 100 BROs tonight........most from pink hair douche.......he better get punched in his face hard
polyh3dron
Banned
ruh roh, bish has entered our insular domain, no one is safe
head for the hills
head for the hills
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
Also the tattoos from the first episode are starting to hit new lows in MMA and that is saying A LOT.
Me the whole time watching TUF episode 1:
"Why in the world would you get that tattoo. It looks absolutely hideous."
Host Samurai
Member
Everyone's such trash on TUF, it's hard to connect with the cast members.
Host Samurai
Member
Who has the shittest tattoos in all of MMA? I'd say Lebman is up there with his awful hand tattoos.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Marcin Różalski "wins" by default.
polyh3dron
Banned
nvm