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Monday Night Combat |OT| Some action on a monday night
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InfectedZero
Member
Thats a current bug right now according to the Uber forums. They are working on a fix.barnone said:
TheFreshPrince
Junior Member
I'm loving the game, but I feel like every one I play against is just going for kills.
I haven't seen any great strategies emerge...I'm usually the tank and try to bunch up with my bigger bots and push forward that way. Any tips for how to effectively get to the moneyball?
I haven't seen any great strategies emerge...I'm usually the tank and try to bunch up with my bigger bots and push forward that way. Any tips for how to effectively get to the moneyball?
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
TheFreshPrince said:
Yea I've seen that as well when I'm playing with randoms. I after the match is over, I just give feedback and avoid those kinds of players. It might take a long time but hopefully I'll only be matched up with people who realize this isn't TDM. Note that this is only for teams and players that should have steam rolled us but instead sit at the half way point and just try to rack up kills. I don't for the players that are actually trying to push.
Also, I'm terrible against the Sniper. That class makes my eye twitch right now.
TheApatheticOne
Member
Do we have a GAF XBL gamertag set up? Considering this is a team oriented game, Id rather play with yall than some guys doing nothing but playing TDM.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
TheApatheticOne said:
Add MNC GAF.
And damn I suck with support, it dosn't help either that the last matches half of my shots didn't registered.
Sniper McBlaze
Member
Relaxed Muscle said:
What's the point of adding gamertags like this? I just did, but how will it help me find gaffers to play with?
snoopeasystreet
Member
Man, I love playing sniper. Once you upgrade the passive to level 3, you can just shoot the bots next to the pros and rack up the kills.
Fun idea but balance between classes is horribly flawed.
There's a reason why you're seeing so many gunners and support characters. Especially support, wtf were they thinking - a shotgun that one shots up close, healing, a turret that you can plop down anywhere and is strong as hell. It's pretty ridiculous.
The assassin is hands-down the worse class in the game. The melee attack is subject to lag and a long cool down even if you miss. Stealth is easy broken and low life means you get one shot by everything.
The other three classes seem fairly balanced but I think the dev team could have spent a bit more time balancing the game. They've mentioned that it will be possible to patch / tune based on user feedback, but I don't think anyone will be left come a month from now.
There's a reason why you're seeing so many gunners and support characters. Especially support, wtf were they thinking - a shotgun that one shots up close, healing, a turret that you can plop down anywhere and is strong as hell. It's pretty ridiculous.
The assassin is hands-down the worse class in the game. The melee attack is subject to lag and a long cool down even if you miss. Stealth is easy broken and low life means you get one shot by everything.
The other three classes seem fairly balanced but I think the dev team could have spent a bit more time balancing the game. They've mentioned that it will be possible to patch / tune based on user feedback, but I don't think anyone will be left come a month from now.
i love playing as the assassin though. support does seem quite overpowered but there is no better feeling then sneaking up on the healing bitches and gutting them.
edit: if i miss or fuck up i smoke bomb my ass out of there. hell even if i connect i usually smoke bomb my ass out of there turning invisible on my way through the air. also, setting my gold sponsor on my custom class as armor has seemed to help me stay alive.
edit: if i miss or fuck up i smoke bomb my ass out of there. hell even if i connect i usually smoke bomb my ass out of there turning invisible on my way through the air. also, setting my gold sponsor on my custom class as armor has seemed to help me stay alive.
I think the nerfs needed are:
Remove support's ability to find invisible assassins. Is this a glitch? By tapping LT you make them visible. Most broken support ability imo. Also add more down time when carrying your turret. You should not be able to place it again so quickly.
Gunner's minigun should have worse long range damage. It's pretty silly that with the accuracy gold endorsement, I can shoot snipers from 100 meter away.
Also buff the tank's fire gun. It seems so weak currently, and it has horrible range.
Remove support's ability to find invisible assassins. Is this a glitch? By tapping LT you make them visible. Most broken support ability imo. Also add more down time when carrying your turret. You should not be able to place it again so quickly.
Gunner's minigun should have worse long range damage. It's pretty silly that with the accuracy gold endorsement, I can shoot snipers from 100 meter away.
Also buff the tank's fire gun. It seems so weak currently, and it has horrible range.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Coldsnap said:
I'm not sure, but there are 3 types (gold,silver and bronce) the gold give the highest bonus of whatever sponsor you want to add (more precision, more speed, etc...) and then silver and last bronze.
Sniper McBlaze
Member
Rad- said:
I'd also like to add a better animation to the tank's Y ability when he gets grounded. It's hard to tell if you are grounded or not.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Rad- said:
You hurt them with the secondary fire of the healing gun, so they go visible, it sucks but how you gonna change that? it aims to the closer enemy that is in front you, if an assasin dosn't charge from the back is his fault.
K2Valor said:
There's a big difference, Gunner owns, Heavy dosn't.
DrEvilbones
Neo Member
I don't get the complaints about the assassin class being weak. If anything, assassins seem to kill me more than any other class, and when they do, it's frustrating as hell. Maybe I'm just bad at being situationally aware (I seem to get backstabbed like a mother in TF2 also...)
Any tips on how to deal with the assassins? (besides "suck less," already working on that one, thanks!)
Any tips on how to deal with the assassins? (besides "suck less," already working on that one, thanks!)
DrEvilbones said:
Last night, I was playing support custom class with armor as the gold perk (switched to this because I was dying almost exclusively to assassins while healing my 2 friends). That prevented one-shots so I could get help/kill them. The counter for them would probably be to take damage as gold. I don't know the exact details for what the different perks actually do with the maths, but hopefully somebody will figure that out soon.
I had no idea players could do damage to the ball during sudden death. We were dominating the whole match and then during sudden death we get an onslaught of assassins and they just circle around our moneyball and kill it. Not gonna lie, that was fucking stupid.
TheFightingFish
Member
DrEvilbones said:
In my experience the assassins can really own in the early stages when they can one-shot kill with melee and wreck level one turrets really easily. But by the late game when I have more passive health upgrades (I play support) assassins sneak up and melee me, don't kill me and then I just chase them down and nail them with the shotgun.
As for support I can't argue that they are not a little overpowered, but I love playing support classes (Medic always in TF2 and BC2) so I ain't changing. I would think that the obvious counter would be snipers that can use long range fire to keep you away from healing your bots, nail your turrets from a distance and stay safe out of shotgun range. But aside from one pretty good sniper that I ran into my first game I don't seem to see many of them online.
Anti-Camp Strategies:
Support: His B skill, Airstrike, is powerful. It's made that way because it's the only way he has range without his hack skill. One Airstrike will take out any other Support turret unless it's at level 3 or at level 2 with an overbuff. Two will finish it off.
Gunner: His secondary is a mortar gun. It also upgrades at Passive 3 just like the minigun. It was designed for turret take downs; killing the players around them is just a bonus.
Assault: Grenade 3. 'Nuff said.
Tank: Product Bomb 3. Now you too have a turret melting mortar that also blinds players and stuns bots.
Assassin: You need to work together with someone if your opponent is smart. Use your Smoke Bomb.
Sniper: You have Flak, but will more than likely need help too.
As for overpowered stuff:
The support's turret skill has a MASSIVE cooldown. Picking it back up means getting a bonus with it, but it's only ever half way manageable at level 3. He already has that nerf built in.
Gunner: Every game like this has a big boss up close class. You always will have to sneak up on him or out maneuver him. His low speed makes him easier to aim at using anti-turret weaponry. The Assault can use his increased jumping height plus Fly for extra mobility. Otherwise, sneak up on him. Also, he's a hacked Rockit turret in deploy mode. Treat him like one.
Support: His B skill, Airstrike, is powerful. It's made that way because it's the only way he has range without his hack skill. One Airstrike will take out any other Support turret unless it's at level 3 or at level 2 with an overbuff. Two will finish it off.
Gunner: His secondary is a mortar gun. It also upgrades at Passive 3 just like the minigun. It was designed for turret take downs; killing the players around them is just a bonus.
Assault: Grenade 3. 'Nuff said.
Tank: Product Bomb 3. Now you too have a turret melting mortar that also blinds players and stuns bots.
Assassin: You need to work together with someone if your opponent is smart. Use your Smoke Bomb.
Sniper: You have Flak, but will more than likely need help too.
As for overpowered stuff:
The support's turret skill has a MASSIVE cooldown. Picking it back up means getting a bonus with it, but it's only ever half way manageable at level 3. He already has that nerf built in.
Gunner: Every game like this has a big boss up close class. You always will have to sneak up on him or out maneuver him. His low speed makes him easier to aim at using anti-turret weaponry. The Assault can use his increased jumping height plus Fly for extra mobility. Otherwise, sneak up on him. Also, he's a hacked Rockit turret in deploy mode. Treat him like one.
They can change balance on the fly, which is great. I expect they are currently monitoring games closely and will make some big adjustments soon once some balance consensuses are formed.Shoogoo said:32-4 as a support just now
I hope they balance the classes soon.
This game will have major legs if they keep tweaking the balance and add new maps periodically.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
DY_nasty said:
There's Juice dispensers in the arena, usually in the middle I think. Look for a widescreen LCD TV advertising juice. Just run up to it.
Sniper McBlaze
Member
Anyone up for a game of Blitz in a while? I wanna get all the achievements. Haven't tried it out yet though so I'll probably suck.
TheApatheticOne
Member
I'll be hoping on in one hour. Ive only played that opening tutorial. In GAFers going to be on that can get me up to speed and get some games in? :lol
LocoMrPollock
Banned
My 12 year old nephew has been kicking ass with the assassin, but I'm more of a heavy gunner type.
Game is shit tons of fun.
Game is shit tons of fun.