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Monster Hunter Generations |OT| Generation X
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Eh sorry. I'm off for the night anyway.
you bailed without a word. ;_;
Goodnight!
4U also starts with a bang before soaking it back and gently introducing stuff bit by bit as you say, , whereas Generations offers so much to do but so little direction. I think 4U is a much better intro to the series, whereas generations is a playground full of references (and new ideas) for returning players.
Pejo
Member
So I finally figured out why I love the default Jurassic Frontier default theme so much.
It's basically an evolution of a Panzer Dragoon soundtrack song.
I mean listen to this and think about it in PD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZDc1hPo7ng
So good.
Does anyone have a guide or list of pre-reqs to open the coal gathering talisman farming quest? I know I saw one either here or on Reddit, but I can't find it.
It's basically an evolution of a Panzer Dragoon soundtrack song.
I mean listen to this and think about it in PD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZDc1hPo7ng
So good.
Does anyone have a guide or list of pre-reqs to open the coal gathering talisman farming quest? I know I saw one either here or on Reddit, but I can't find it.
what do hotblooded/coldblooded do exactly? I read you get attack up and defense up large if you use them in hot/cold areas with hot/cold drinks. But based on that armor set they stack with AuL?
And yeah, I wondered why everyone uses haphazard/trueshot on bowgun sets then I realized you can fit it into any spare 5 slots. On top of that, later bowguns have tons of powerful built in shots. I love the pierce elemental stuff, as someone who missed that from the older games (thunder and water shots used to pierce).
bizzarewars
Banned
Yup. As good a starting point as any. A lot of people are saying get 4U, and while that is a good game, the majority of the player base has moved to Gen.
So yeah, if you want to have a lot of people to play with online I'd say get this one. If you want single player play 4U. I'm of the opinion that Gen is leaps and bounds better than 4U, but that's mainly because I don't give a shit about story in Monster Hunter.
Tropic Hunter is basically Heat Cancel, Attack Up (M) and Defense Up (L) in a hot area. If you drink a hot drink you get 10 extra defense even if you're not in a hot area.
Polar Hunter is similar except it's Cold Cancel and you get 5 extra attack if you drink a cold drink. And yeah the attack bonus stacks with Attack Up (L). You also might get people trying to give you the drinks you're usually supposed to use in hot/cold areas during quests.
I think from a content and learning standpoint, 4U village/caravan is by far the best teaching tool of any MH game yet. It explains basic mechanics with story and quests and eases the player into things. It also kicks things off with a huge monster which gives people a taste of what's to come.
Does Gen even explain steaks in the 1 star quests? It just dumps all these quests on you, most of them are bland as fuck in the early game and give the player almost no direction. It succeeds for vets because well...you're a vet but it fails to teach basics as far as I've seen.
Online can also be a crucible of assholes. I would pitty anyone who tries to cut their teeth on MH totally blind and hopping online to play with randoms as soon as they can figure out how.
bizzarewars
Banned
I mean, I guess. There are plenty of resources to teach you the ropes both in game and out. I started with Freedom 2 back when there were basically almost no resources available to teach me anything and I still figured it out fairly easily.
So yeah, It's pretty difficult for me to recommend 4U when Gen is superior in more or less every way outside of Village quests/Story content (and graphics but that's a whole other bag).
I'm using that Rath Ex set now too, it's a really well-rounded set for hunting in the volcanic areas. The only downside is the hefty weakness to both dragon and thunder, but you can eat to address whichever one your mark is using, and it has a huge fire resistance which most of the targets in the hot areas will be using.
I had someone laugh at me drinking a hot drink in the volcanic hollow until I pointed them towards the skill.
Do the hyper monsters drop rare stuff more easily than previous G-rank versions? I balked at needing 5 Rathalos Rubies (one for each of the final lv. 7 upgrades) after trying to find that kind of thing in previous games, but got them from maybe 8/9 hunts, same for the Seregios Dissenters.
I started with Freedom Unite so I totally get where you are coming from. But I feel like we are the exceptions, not the norm. Just by being part of GAF and having this discussion we are probably more engaged than the normal consumer. But if someone just saw the box on the shelf and was like, "hey there's a guy with a big sword fighting a kick ass monster. That looks fun!" I'm not sure they'd seek that information out. Monster Hunter is kind of obtuse and it has a learning curve and I just think that 4U had the best built in mechanics for engaging new people at that entry level.
The Wraith
Member
I'm a huge fan of Monster Hunter but it has been killing my hands. The New 3DS XL isn't big enough. I went and ordered the Monster Hunter cross hunting grip from Hori. I have to wait until next week to get it but from everything I've read says it's an amazingly comfortable grip. Anyone here have one?
I have the 3DSXL version and it makes it much better. No complaints here. My hands would go numb using the 3DS without it.
I do and it is one of the best grips I've used on any portable. The grip feels a bit like a large WiiU pro controller or a 360 controller and has integrated shoulder buttons for all 4 buttons on the n3ds XL. It's bulky but not in an uncfortable way at all. If you feel like the xl is too small, this should work great or you I think.
bizzarewars
Banned
Anyone interested in helping me with Snowbaron Level 10? Only need 3 hunts to finish upgrading the set. I'm so close to the finish line I can taste it.
10-9307-6940-6364
Edit: Still have one spot open.
Edit 2: Thanks everyone! Finally maxed out the set!
10-9307-6940-6364
Edit: Still have one spot open.
Edit 2: Thanks everyone! Finally maxed out the set!
Replaced the c stick nub with a PSP stick. Best thing ever. I actually had to turn they camera speed down to normal it is so much more sensitive and responsive. Love it.
Also ordered the MHX LL grip a few weeks ago to replace my $5 chinese grip. It's not bad and it served me well for MHX but I want something a but more substantial.
In other news, trying to unlock Savage so I set up a Hyper room. Taking turns. Plenty of people joining and running off scared.
09-1097-0327-4904 if anyone is interested.
Also ordered the MHX LL grip a few weeks ago to replace my $5 chinese grip. It's not bad and it served me well for MHX but I want something a but more substantial.
In other news, trying to unlock Savage so I set up a Hyper room. Taking turns. Plenty of people joining and running off scared.
09-1097-0327-4904 if anyone is interested.
The Wraith
Member
Fantastic! I can't wait for it to show up now. If it feels similar to a 360 controller I'll be perfectly fine with marathon gaming sessions, thanks for the input.
It really kills me when I play on the Ancestral Steppe, since it's such a good map where every area provides interesting battle opportunities, but the nostalgia fest of having the first map of ost games which are for the most part the dullest in the games.
Jurassic Jungle isn't anything to write home about either, which only further disappoints due to the map selection.
It's my biggest gripe, worse than overpowered arts or lack of G class.
Jurassic Jungle isn't anything to write home about either, which only further disappoints due to the map selection.
It's my biggest gripe, worse than overpowered arts or lack of G class.
The Marshlands is an incredibly boring map, not just because of the flatness, but the layout of the areas is just about as uninteresting as it can get. The vertical aspect of MH4U's maps added so much.
I quite like Deserted Island just because the lush blues of the coast areas are so clean and inviting, but yeah, Ancestral Steppe is a particularly good one with great variety (I love fighting fliers on the cliffs). They did really well to have it as the opening area in the last game.
Deserted Island is good aesthetically, and the layout of the areas themselves are not bad, but its kind of a shadow of it former self, saying this as someone who didn't really like Underwater combat all that much.
PotionBleue
Member
I disagree. The Marshlands areas are well connected together so it doesn't take long to move around, unlike Arctic Ridge for example. Also Ancestral Steppe areas 4 & 7 are a chore to battle on and traverse. The elevation in Volcanic Hollow 8 is annoying too.
In fact MHGen made me realize how bad most of MH4U's gimmicky zones were.
I kinda agree. Visually some of the old maps aren't too hot either.
I also kinda feel the same way about some of the old monsters too where you can see a big difference in the quality of the animations and moveset designs when comparing them to the more recent ones. I bet they could fill up a new game with the better ones plus any new ones they make and still have a lot of monsters to fight. :x
Same. At first the returning maps intrigued me, but the more I played them, the more I realized how I missed the diversity and elevation of MH4Us maps.
Do you have other elder dragons showing up? These quests change every time out, sometimes teo's gonna be there, sometimes he not. I dont know that you need to do anything special to unlock him.
Edit: doesnt show any prerequisite here.
Ancestral Steppe is a great map minus the massive cliffs section.
I feel it sacrilegious to say, but I dislike Snowy Mountains in this game because I guess I just never really noticed the highly obvious fact that battles only take place on the three peak areas. Once that set in I felt pretty disappointed in the map. I wish there was a short route from the first area that would take you to a peak, and then let Monsters be fought in the two grassy plains area as well.
I actually like Marshlands for the most part. It's all connected really well, as stated above.
Deserted Island is still great, but the loss of the base shortcut took away a lot of convenience. It gives monsters that spawn in the water area (hopefully that's just Plesioth...) the same issue Snowy Mounrains has. Way too far a run.
Complaining about running too much, but then something I've been thinking about since 4U that makes me sound a bit hypocritical: I wish Monsters had a varying spawn point. It kind of sucks that while a Monster may HAVE the ability to move to different areas and give a different feeling to the fight, they rarely do so in online killfests. This means you're always fighting the same Monster in the same Area, time after time.
I don't want it random (imagine the few that can travel the whole map with such a thing), but have the game pick between two or three designated spawn areas. Even two would aid a ton in not only giving more variety in gameplay, but also make the Monsters feel like more of a living thing. Like, you mean to tell me Mizutsune ALWAYS spawns in the little hut area of Misty Peaks?... Why not in either of the two water areas? Why the huts only?
I feel it sacrilegious to say, but I dislike Snowy Mountains in this game because I guess I just never really noticed the highly obvious fact that battles only take place on the three peak areas. Once that set in I felt pretty disappointed in the map. I wish there was a short route from the first area that would take you to a peak, and then let Monsters be fought in the two grassy plains area as well.
I actually like Marshlands for the most part. It's all connected really well, as stated above.
Deserted Island is still great, but the loss of the base shortcut took away a lot of convenience. It gives monsters that spawn in the water area (hopefully that's just Plesioth...) the same issue Snowy Mounrains has. Way too far a run.
Complaining about running too much, but then something I've been thinking about since 4U that makes me sound a bit hypocritical: I wish Monsters had a varying spawn point. It kind of sucks that while a Monster may HAVE the ability to move to different areas and give a different feeling to the fight, they rarely do so in online killfests. This means you're always fighting the same Monster in the same Area, time after time.
I don't want it random (imagine the few that can travel the whole map with such a thing), but have the game pick between two or three designated spawn areas. Even two would aid a ton in not only giving more variety in gameplay, but also make the Monsters feel like more of a living thing. Like, you mean to tell me Mizutsune ALWAYS spawns in the little hut area of Misty Peaks?... Why not in either of the two water areas? Why the huts only?
I'm also pretty disappointed in the map selections. For first gen I wish we had gotten that swamp instead of the Dunes. For second gen I wish we had gotten the Jungle/Island instead of that swamp and the Great Forest instead of the Volcano. For third gen I wish we got the (not so) Flooded Forest instead of the Deserted Island. The fourth gen maps are fine.
The Arctic Ridge/Snowy Mountain is disappointing in this game. For some reason it seems like monsters can;t go down to the base of the mountain anymore. I used to love fighting Blangonga and Tigrex down there.
The Arctic Ridge/Snowy Mountain is disappointing in this game. For some reason it seems like monsters can;t go down to the base of the mountain anymore. I used to love fighting Blangonga and Tigrex down there.
Khezu can. And I hate when he does that.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Khezu still goes to area 1 in Snowy Mountains. But yeah, I never liked that map for the same reason everyone said. And I prefer the Gen 1 swamp over Gen 2. And wish we got Gen 3 Volcano for the required fire map.
Thanks man. When I checked it had showed up with a 'new' marker next to it. Either I missed it completely which is possible or doing some 3 star village quests unlocked it.
Also ancestral steppe has the best song in the series.
Well I removed the c-stick nub and swapped to the psp cap....
I was so resistant, I was so sure I just wanted to keep it stock and just have Nintendo fix it. I was so bummed it wasn't working anymore.
But I bit the bullet, bought some psp parts and just swapped it. Holy shit, everyone who has said how good it is is not lying. It works perfectly now and is more precise than ever. And to top it off, I didn't have to pay an arm and a leg or send it off.
I was so resistant, I was so sure I just wanted to keep it stock and just have Nintendo fix it. I was so bummed it wasn't working anymore.
But I bit the bullet, bought some psp parts and just swapped it. Holy shit, everyone who has said how good it is is not lying. It works perfectly now and is more precise than ever. And to top it off, I didn't have to pay an arm and a leg or send it off.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
36-9325-0146-4010 9999
Where we do hr3 keys, requests, and maybe prowler quests because why not.
Where we do hr3 keys, requests, and maybe prowler quests because why not.
Oh sorry, I thought you were all randoms. >.<
Just had the single most confusing online quest in my hundreds of hours playing this series.
So this guy grabs a quest. He was laggy, teleporting around in the previous round, but who cares, right? It took about seven seconds for the system to give me the quest once I hit A to select it, so I knew for sure that I wasn't just seeing things.
Battle starts and the guy is just standing there. But he's warping. While standing still. And taking damage from nothing. While warping while standing still. And swinging his weapon!.. While warping while taking damage from nothing while standing still.
It was the strangest thing. We were disjointed entirely. It was made pretty clear when he died to nothing. But it was MOST clear when I killed Rathian -- the Target monster -- and the Quest didn't clear. I ran to the area he was in; where he was now running in place or in short spurts, but he was still teleporting every two~ seconds. He ran to the area where the dead Rathian lay, and... Was fighting Rathian. I couldn't see it, of course, but I knew because he got poisoned at some point and was clearly fighting something.
After about a minute of teleport-man fighting a phantom, the Quest cleared. It was probably a good four minutes of waiting between the time I killed her and the time the quest cleared. Oh, but my timer stopped entirely once I killed her. So... Yeah, we had two quest clear times I guess.
I really can't say it enough, it was strange.
The Great Forest was GOAT, that map really needs to come back.
Gen 3 Volcano over Volcanic Hollow, sure, but old Volcano does well enough I think. Another case of Marshlands. It's mostly accessible, and the monsters aren't relegated to just a few places.
Edit: well, idk. Volcanic Hollow's actually pretty decent. I guess I'm still just annoyed after 4U using it twice heh.
Definitely.
Try Adept style if you're not using it? I don't know much in the way of Blangonga specific tips, that thing still kicks my butt if it's at equal difficulty level with my armor. He preys on making impatient moves, I can tell you that much. Try to hit him less when he's hopping around (haha like that ever stops happening) and more when he's doing things like blowing his ice breath. Also you MAY be able to roll through his ground pound's quake effect? Not 100% sure because yeah, I Adept against him.
So this guy grabs a quest. He was laggy, teleporting around in the previous round, but who cares, right? It took about seven seconds for the system to give me the quest once I hit A to select it, so I knew for sure that I wasn't just seeing things.
Battle starts and the guy is just standing there. But he's warping. While standing still. And taking damage from nothing. While warping while standing still. And swinging his weapon!.. While warping while taking damage from nothing while standing still.
It was the strangest thing. We were disjointed entirely. It was made pretty clear when he died to nothing. But it was MOST clear when I killed Rathian -- the Target monster -- and the Quest didn't clear. I ran to the area he was in; where he was now running in place or in short spurts, but he was still teleporting every two~ seconds. He ran to the area where the dead Rathian lay, and... Was fighting Rathian. I couldn't see it, of course, but I knew because he got poisoned at some point and was clearly fighting something.
After about a minute of teleport-man fighting a phantom, the Quest cleared. It was probably a good four minutes of waiting between the time I killed her and the time the quest cleared. Oh, but my timer stopped entirely once I killed her. So... Yeah, we had two quest clear times I guess.
I really can't say it enough, it was strange.
The Great Forest was GOAT, that map really needs to come back.
Gen 3 Volcano over Volcanic Hollow, sure, but old Volcano does well enough I think. Another case of Marshlands. It's mostly accessible, and the monsters aren't relegated to just a few places.
Edit: well, idk. Volcanic Hollow's actually pretty decent. I guess I'm still just annoyed after 4U using it twice heh.
Definitely.
Try Adept style if you're not using it? I don't know much in the way of Blangonga specific tips, that thing still kicks my butt if it's at equal difficulty level with my armor. He preys on making impatient moves, I can tell you that much. Try to hit him less when he's hopping around (haha like that ever stops happening) and more when he's doing things like blowing his ice breath. Also you MAY be able to roll through his ground pound's quake effect? Not 100% sure because yeah, I Adept against him.
pizzaparty
Member
Gonna try out Snowbaron 1. If anyone wants to run it with me:
57 - 6170 - 6396 - 7071
57 - 6170 - 6396 - 7071
Mr_Appleby
Member
Nah livid is when you are doing a capture mission and one of your cats kills the target while you're laying the trap. :|
Edit: I always carry a few dung bombs for situations like you describe. Pop one on the bulldrome and he'll get out of there quick smart.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Anybody want to help with hr 5 urgent?
21-7111-3737-5845
21-7111-3737-5845
bizzarewars
Banned
Dreadking is tough. Hard to get a bead on him when he's constantly flying all the time.
The_blonde_and_blue
Member
Weird. Had to get a new 3DS, and for some reason I've lost my save file.
I transferred my ID (had to call Nintendo since my old 3DS died and couldn't be repaired), and I'm even using the old SD card (unless the repair place gave me the wrong SD card). What gives? Anything else I'm missing?
(I'm also missing some themes and stuff that don't seem to be re-downloadable)
I transferred my ID (had to call Nintendo since my old 3DS died and couldn't be repaired), and I'm even using the old SD card (unless the repair place gave me the wrong SD card). What gives? Anything else I'm missing?
(I'm also missing some themes and stuff that don't seem to be re-downloadable)
Break his wings and he can be trap locked just like any other Rathalos.