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Monster Strike |OT| Lucy in the Sky with Divine Sharls

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Oh... it gives you the error when you click the button and deducts the orbs. I can see how people lost 100 to this. WELP
 

chrono01

Member
Thanks for the warning. I'll hold off until I'm sure it's working properly.

I only have 50 Orbs to spend on it, so I doubt I'll get anything of worth, but still.
 

Euphor!a

Banned
So I just started today. I eventually rolled a level 1 odin, would it be worth restarting for one of these samurai guys from this event? I'm only like an hour or 2 into it.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
So I just started today. I eventually rolled a level 1 odin, would it be worth restarting for one of these samurai guys from this event? I'm only like an hour or 2 into it.
Yes, both have few bosses good against them and both are rated 9.5
 

Alucrid

Banned
fuck this game

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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
10 pull for me, all shitty 4 stars ;-)

Why do I even bother with pulls? Game is just messed up. They really don't want the non whales to spend money the game.
 

Raika

Member
10 pull, all 4* with the exception of a dupe Eclipse.

Non-IAP status will maintain for good, the gatcha rates in this game really suck compared to games like Puzzle & Dragons.
 

Cels

Member
10shot on the new hatcher, all 4*, which together with my last 10shot makes 100 orbs spent with 0 5*s

yeah i'm never spending money on this game
 

chrono01

Member
I almost don't want to use any Magic Orbs now with all of these reports of 4*, but then, it will likely never be fixed so they'll just remain there. :/

Seeing Reddit, a lot of people are posting bad pulls [some going as much as 40] without a single 5*. I don't understand how they expect this game to keep going, with the slow rate of earning free Magic Orbs, the high cost of purchasing them, and the horrible rates in the Gatcha. Sure, the best monsters are often obtained outside of the Gatcha, but how will you get to that point if the Gatcha never gives you anything interesting?

Honestly, with as many IAP games are there are Puzzle & Dragons, Brave Frontier, School Idol Festival, Terra Battle, etc., it's not as though there aren't alternatives. Of course the actual gameplay portion of Monster Strike is a lot of fun, but it's a shame that it's nearly crippled by the RNG of the Gatcha. :(

[I still haven't used my Magic Orbs, and I still might not. We'll see.]
 

Faiz

Member
2 10 shots. 1 eclipse and the rest shitty 4*.

That brings me to 0 orbs. Man, there is no way I'd ever spend money to pull on this game.
 

FZZ

Banned
I think single pulls are better than ten shots, I've gotten more 5* from ten single pulls than from a ten shot. Anecdotal but it works for me. I just got Oryo.
 

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
I almost don't want to use any Magic Orbs now with all of these reports of 4*, but then, it will likely never be fixed so they'll just remain there. :/

Seeing Reddit, a lot of people are posting bad pulls [some going as much as 40] without a single 5*. I don't understand how they expect this game to keep going, with the slow rate of earning free Magic Orbs, the high cost of purchasing them, and the horrible rates in the Gatcha. Sure, the best monsters are often obtained outside of the Gatcha, but how will you get to that point if the Gatcha never gives you anything interesting?

Honestly, with as many IAP games are there are Puzzle & Dragons, Brave Frontier, School Idol Festival, Terra Battle, etc., it's not as though there aren't alternatives. Of course the actual gameplay portion of Monster Strike is a lot of fun, but it's a shame that it's nearly crippled by the RNG of the Gatcha. :(

[I still haven't used my Magic Orbs, and I still might not. We'll see.]

I did 23 pulls. I did get Ryoma, but the rest were garbage. I pulled 7 Karin. Seriously.

Who is it here that was in contact with the Mixi team? Are they not aware of the shitty rates? Or did they do this on purpose?

I'm with Chrono. I'd be spending money if I were getting a better rate of 5* stuff (like at least 1 in 10 pulls), but as it stands now, the rates are SO bad. I can't imagine them staying alive too long in this incredibly competitive IAP-heavy market.
 

Alucrid

Banned
I also got ALL of the monsters in Alucrid's screenshot in my 10 pull.

What was left after feeding away 4* dupes:



Hmmm...

Yeah, that was my second pull screenshot. In my previous one i got 4 of the same monsters as my second pull and 6 of them were dupes. The fact that my second pull ended up being 9 dups, 5 of which were dupes within the same pull, was soul crushing. I went ahead and tried 6 single pulls with what I had left to see if that helped, no go. Kinda killing my interest in the game now, I get that it can't be too good, but I haven't had a single five star in the past few hundred orbs I've spent.
 

Ducarmel

Member
20+ pulls on both my main and alt and nothing.

I have not spent a dime only my time (I have not got a new 5* from the gatcha on my main since launch) and I feel cheated, I wonder how the whales feel about this game.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
The gacha rate in this game really is worrying considering how well it is doing in Japan right now, they will feel more likely to screw over customers with shitty drops with that accepted base line.
Not that big of a loss if you dont spend money on it, but its sad if this is or will be the defacto gaming experience for future generations - pay to get screwed over even more.

10 pulls not giving a 5* or dropping the same 4* unit (shadowgaff) more than 4-5 times is just crazy. They are compensating the easy coop orbs you get free at first by having such shitty drop it seems.
 

ZeroAKA

Member
Did a 10-shot and 2 single pulls, got no 5-stars and only 1 event monster. I'm going to try waiting for the next guaranteed 4-star event before pulling again.
 

forgrim

Member
everything everyone has stated here is pretty much how i feel. i looked into maybe buying orbs and saw the prices and balked considering the previous 3 ten pulls i did netted me absolute garbage (besides tini).

then i decided to do 4 ten pulls and use up all 200 orbs i had stockpiled and i got...

oda nobunaga (a dupe) and a valkyrie.

it would be an understatement to say i felt deflated. this gacha is vicious. dunno how the equivalent of 200 dollars worth of orbs didn't see one of the unique 5 stars that had the greater pull rate.

if i spent 200 dollars on brave frontier, i'd have a goddamn army of elite units.
 

Euphor!a

Banned
As a new player is there anything I should be using my orbs for? Or should I just be stockpiling them for later use? Like should I expand my crate?
 
I would urge everyone to write an email to Google Play support (https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1050566?hl=en&ref_topic=3364671) and explain what the drop rates are like for this game.

Be clear that the game is good, but "Super High" drops rates are certainly not occurring and are clearly false advertising.

Just let them know. Send screenshots or links to videos. They will issue refunds.

Really, I'd just like Google Play to require such games post the actual percentage chances. That's really not asking too much to keep things on the "up and up."
 

chrono01

Member
I did one 10-pull, got nothing but 4* and a single 5* [Apollo]. I have enough for one more 10-pull, but honestly, I don't expect anything from it. If I don't get one of the featured Units, I might just quit the game entirely.
 
everything everyone has stated here is pretty much how i feel. i looked into maybe buying orbs and saw the prices and balked considering the previous 3 ten pulls i did netted me absolute garbage (besides tini).

then i decided to do 4 ten pulls and use up all 200 orbs i had stockpiled and i got...

oda nobunaga (a dupe) and a valkyrie.

it would be an understatement to say i felt deflated. this gacha is vicious. dunno how the equivalent of 200 dollars worth of orbs didn't see one of the unique 5 stars that had the greater pull rate.

if i spent 200 dollars on brave frontier, i'd have a goddamn army of elite units.

I would be fucking livid if this were me. You have higher odds of winning at a casino.
 

chrono01

Member
Okay, perhaps my earlier statement about quitting was a bit extreme [I do still enjoy the game], but the Gatcha is definitely destroying a lot of my excitement. :/

Edit - Another 10-shot, nothing but 4* dupes. That's 100 Magic Orbs used for this Gatcha and nothing good to come from it.

My interest in this game is seriously waning. At this point I doubt I'll have the right monsters to even challenge the upcoming content, and the idea of spending money on Magic Orbs [which I won't do] for the Gatcha and the horrible rates it has doesn't exactly inspire me to spend more time with this one.

I guess it's back to Puzzle & Dragons/Brave Frontier/School Idol Festival for me. At least those games have a much better Gatcha rate [although SIF doesn't really, but then Ultra Rare cards aren't exactly needed], and are much more generous with their in-game currency. I'll still log into Monster Strike occasionally, just to see if anything changes, but I won't be investing much time into it anymore.
 
Not finding adequate people to play is more likely to push me away from the game than the gatcha rates. I know it's Thanksgiving weekend but the bonus luck is going to waste. T_T
 

Faiz

Member
Not finding adequate people to play is more likely to push me away from the game than the gatcha rates. I know it's Thanksgiving weekend but the bonus luck is going to waste. T_T

Yeah, sorry. I can't speak for anyone else of course but that's definitely the case for me. Thanksgiving weekend has been super busy, hopefully it picks back up with the holiday ending.
 

forgrim

Member
Okay, perhaps my earlier statement about quitting was a bit extreme [I do still enjoy the game], but the Gatcha is definitely destroying a lot of my excitement. :/

Edit - Another 10-shot, nothing but 4* dupes. That's 100 Magic Orbs used for this Gatcha and nothing good to come from it.

My interest in this game is seriously waning. At this point I doubt I'll have the right monsters to even challenge the upcoming content, and the idea of spending money on Magic Orbs [which I won't do] for the Gatcha and the horrible rates it has doesn't exactly inspire me to spend more time with this one.

I guess it's back to Puzzle & Dragons/Brave Frontier/School Idol Festival for me. At least those games have a much better Gatcha rate [although SIF doesn't really, but then Ultra Rare cards aren't exactly needed], and are much more generous with their in-game currency. I'll still log into Monster Strike occasionally, just to see if anything changes, but I won't be investing much time into it anymore.

yeah, i decided to take advantage of the 4 free pulls and rerolled 2 accounts to have ryoma each to start with.

i then proceeded to do invitation bonus for both accounts til they both had 100 orbs. then proceeded between the accounts to pull 4 10 pulls and got out of the combined pulls...

a wildcat on one account, and a linzi on the other. so 2 five stars out of the 200 orbs. not to mention the billion rerolling i did to get the ryoma's to start with.

i was pretty masochistic with this but this has made me realize my main must've been super lucky with pulls early on to get the tini and mundus during the margarite pulls. so if you combine my main who spent 200 with the alts, that's 400 orbs spent to get a valk, oda nobunaga dupe, linzi, and wildcat. 400 dollars for mediocre 5 stars. i'll never spend a dime on this game til the publisher publicly announces the gacha rates have been changed cuz frankly, the appalling dollar amount needed and even then, no guarantee at getting the SUPER RARE GACHA RATE UP for the advertised unit, would lead to worse gambling than me drunk in atlantic city. always out with nothing to show for it
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
yeah, i decided to take advantage of the 4 free pulls and rerolled 2 accounts to have ryoma each to start with.

i then proceeded to do invitation bonus for both accounts til they both had 100 orbs. then proceeded between the accounts to pull 4 10 pulls and got out of the combined pulls...

a wildcat on one account, and a linzi on the other. so 2 five stars out of the 200 orbs. not to mention the billion rerolling i did to get the ryoma's to start with.

i was pretty masochistic with this but this has made me realize my main must've been super lucky with pulls early on to get the tini and mundus during the margarite pulls. so if you combine my main who spent 200 with the alts, that's 400 orbs spent to get a valk, oda nobunaga dupe, linzi, and wildcat. 400 dollars for mediocre 5 stars. i'll never spend a dime on this game til the publisher publicly announces the gacha rates have been changed cuz frankly, the appalling dollar amount needed and even then, no guarantee at getting the SUPER RARE GACHA RATE UP for the advertised unit, would lead to worse gambling than me drunk in atlantic city. always out with nothing to show for it

Thats what im figuring out right now as well - the current Deity and units like Arthur mny of us got from the start - feels like getting them in the future or as a newcomer will take forever with the current rate. So yeah the rate sucks, but im still glad that i got at least a couple powerful units from the launch.
 

Venfayth

Member

This is my alt account that I rerolled until I got something keepable - got a Ryoma.

After enough new player bonuses and other stuff, I decided to take the risk on the 10 shot, which was probably a stupid idea. Seemed to pay off, but I don't know what to do with the dupe Ryoma lol, don't think I'll fuse him in, doesn't seem worth it. I might just want two Ryoma's at some point.
 

forgrim

Member
Thats what im figuring out right now as well - the current Deity and units like Arthur mny of us got from the start - feels like getting them in the future or as a newcomer will take forever with the current rate. So yeah the rate sucks, but im still glad that i got at least a couple powerful units from the launch.

my concern is getting seriously roadblocked without new units in future extremes, especially izanami since i don't have a margarite. i waaas saving all my orbs to try for margarite but the samurai series took control and i gambled like a madman. i'm going to have to rely on coop for izanami or steal a retired gaffer's margarite account (anyone out there? :)). i'm not even sure if you can coop izanami. and the only viable blue i have for izanami will be nanami (nuraihyon/queen butterfly too when they come out).

summary: without being able to pull new units, will i be able to get past izanami.

for the above, keep both, way better than 5 luck. for versatility

edit: and yes, i'm in the camp where a 10 pull should include at least one of the featured units so i don't feel like i got absolutely jobbed. and for those saying it'll lose money for mixi, u'll have people roll 10 pulls multiple times to get the ones they want so it works out.
 

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
my concern is getting seriously roadblocked without new units in future extremes, especially izanami since i don't have a margarite. i waaas saving all my orbs to try for margarite but the samurai series took control and i gambled like a madman. i'm going to have to rely on coop for izanami or steal a retired gaffer's margarite account (anyone out there? :)). i'm not even sure if you can coop izanami. and the only viable blue i have for izanami will be nanami (nuraihyon/queen butterfly too when they come out).

summary: without being able to pull new units, will i be able to get past izanami.

for the above, keep both, way better than 5 luck. for versatility

edit: and yes, i'm in the camp where a 10 pull should include at least one of the featured units so i don't feel like i got absolutely jobbed. and for those saying it'll lose money for mixi, u'll have people roll 10 pulls multiple times to get the ones they want so it works out.

Here's Izanami done with farmable units and a friend Marg: YouTube. I don't know what the unit is, but apparently it can be farmed, haha.

However, I'm with you. I seriously almost bought the 175 orb pack and considered doing 20-single pulls. But I think I'm going to skip it. It just seems way too risky with the rates. I mean, I DID pull Ryoma, but there are others I'd like. I mean, people on Facebook and the various line groups are posting the most disgusting looking pulls ever...4+ of the same unit? C'mon...
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
I get you fears Forgrim, but when it comes to Izanami and Co. i think our GAF group will be fine. We will make it somehow work, there are enough Margs available and there also other units that can be used in the stage (Napoleon, Zeus, Odin, Nanami etc. ), dont need the optimal setup to get through - it makes it less painful though.

But the drop rate is horrible -.-
 

Ducarmel

Member
She is a 60 stamina event, and her drop is not guaranteed even with a no continue run.

If you watch some vids on the dungeon you will see some high level players bring 99 luck farmables for extra 2 chest hoping to get Izanami egg pops out of one of them.
 

Shouta

Member
There are definitely units similar to marge in strength that are usable for Izanami. Here's here event page on the wiki and recommended units.

http://xn--eckwa2aa3a9c8j8bve9d.gamewith.jp/article/show/2339

The best are Napeleon and Margarite, of course. But for other gatcha units, Yukimura, Ascended Odin, Verdandi/Belldandy, and Gerard G Kano are also recommended.

For drop units, Ascended Queen Butterfly, Nurarihyon, Iyo, Jormungand (the unit that the dude was using in the video), and Ancient Smydra are the recommended ones for Dropped units.

So there are lots of units that are usable and even ones that are just dropped. So while Gatcha rates are ass, you can still get some great units to use. I said this earlier in the thread but focus on what you can do with what you got, especially if you aren't spending money and just using the orbs they give you. it also apparently is a hard event so even if you go in with 4 Marges, there's no way it's not going to be a cakewalk. Also, fuck Zombies.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Another thing....whats up with the screwed up friend list ? Anyone knows how it rotates or chooses which friends unit are recruitable ?
 

Ducarmel

Member
Another thing....whats up with the screwed up friend list ? Anyone knows how it rotates or chooses which friends unit are recruitable ?

Its like they purposely made it broken and backwards. I have 78 friends and maybe have a handful available to me throughout the day, makes solo play frustrating a lot of times.

It seems like the game is trying to force us to play muliplayer with the horrible gatcha rates and useless helper list system.
 
I started a new account on my iPad just for kicks and to give me orbs for my real account, and I ended up rolling Ryoma on my alt. I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Its like they purposely made it broken and backwards. I have 78 friends and maybe have a handful available to me throughout the day, makes solo play frustrating a lot of times.

It seems like the game is trying to force us to play muliplayer with the horrible gatcha rates and useless helper list system.

Thats what i figured, they really dont try to hide their intentions at this point hehe.
 
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