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[crimzonflame]

Oohhh, tournment today.
http://shoryuken.com/f7/ceo-calm-before-storm-orlando-fl-4-23-ssf4-mvc3-mk9-live-stream-269004/

NVM the other tourney is on May 7th

 

[Enk]

Created a GAF room on the 360 for those on here who would like to join.

 

[Professor Beef]

Oh I have no problem with the name, it's just hilarious as fuck.

I agree, and i didn't know how to pronounce it until a few days ago, lol.

Not sure what's wrong with default layout on a Mad Catz TE to be honest. Turns it into KOF11 with block replacing the E button.

Seriously though, the pad/stick discussion was settled forever ago, wasn't it? Sticks are better. Everyone I know who switched to stick and stuck with it had their game improve significantly. Tourney scenes are stick dominated. Hell, where you'd have to roll your thumb on a d-pad, it's a twitch on a stick. I can't see how anybody can still entertain this notion.

Wolfkrone and Vangief would disagree.

Sticks aren't "better" by default. Neither is that attitude.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Cyber Sub Zero's Trish combos are amazing looking

BPxxFPxxBP+FP, jBPxxDive Kick BK(whiff), FPxxFPxxBP, Ice Slide

only 25%, but goddamn does it look cool. It's better to combo into ice ball first, which is safer and gives you a little extra damage.

 

[Teknoman]

Watching the GB scrub tournament now...and its always funny to see those last minute MK poke hit wins Both sides having low health always makes for entertaining moves.

 

[Dacvak]

Anyone have any wicked Scorpion combos?

 

[Snapshot King]

I agree, and i didn't know how to pronounce it until a few days ago, lol.


Wolfkrone and Vangief would disagree.

Sticks aren't "better" by default. Neither is that attitude.

But they are objectively better. It's faster to move a stick than move your thumb onto a pad. Your fingers can rest on more simultaneous buttons on a stick layout than on a controller. And if you'd play the pro using pads argument by name dropping Wolfkrone and Vangief, then, well, pretty much everybody else uses sticks, so where are you going with this?

 

[malfcn]

Blah, my Smoke combo isn't flashy, and is damn hard on netcode. Back to practice.

 

[Professor Beef]

But they are objectively better. It's faster to move a stick than move your thumb onto a pad. Your fingers can rest on more simultaneous buttons on a stick layout than on a controller. And if you'd play the pro using pads argument by name dropping Wolfkrone and Vangief, then, well, pretty much everybody else uses sticks, so where are you going with this?

I'm going with what I've been saying the past three posts: sticks aren't better than pads, and vice-versa. The only thing that matters is what you're comfortable with. If you're comfy with a stick, congrats. Same if you'd rather use a pad.

I can't believe I have to explain what I thought didn't need an explanation, for crying out loud. :|

 

[Lost Fragment]

But they are objectively better. It's faster to move a stick than move your thumb onto a pad. Your fingers can rest on more simultaneous buttons on a stick layout than on a controller. And if you'd play the pro using pads argument by name dropping Wolfkrone and Vangief, then, well, pretty much everybody else uses sticks, so where are you going with this?

Overall I think sticks are better but it really depends on the game/character you're playing. And even then, the difference isn't going to be so big that a person who's more comfortable with a pad should automatically switch over to a stick.

This game is very pad-friendly compared to SF and Marvel and stuff. I think Justin Wong even said he was playing this game on a pad.

But yeah, even though I think sticks are more more conductive to mid/high-level play for most games, if a person is skilled enough and wants to use pad, then there's little that can't be done on a pad.

 

[Snapshot King]

I'm going with what I've been saying the past three posts: sticks aren't better than pads, and vice-versa. The only thing that matters is what you're comfortable with. If you're comfy with a stick, congrats. Same if you'd rather use a pad.

I can't believe I have to explain what I thought didn't need an explanation, for crying out loud. :|

You say that, but you aren't addressing anything I say. Are you saying that rolling a thumb is as fast as a twitch of the wrist for a stick? Or that you can rest more fingers on buttons in a natural state on a pad? Or hit more simultaneously without scrunching your hand?

 

[Teknoman]

Current MK is better with a pad, everything else is better with a stick.

There.

 

[DR2K]

But they are objectively better. It's faster to move a stick than move your thumb onto a pad. Your fingers can rest on more simultaneous buttons on a stick layout than on a controller. And if you'd play the pro using pads argument by name dropping Wolfkrone and Vangief, then, well, pretty much everybody else uses sticks, so where are you going with this?

I really think you should look up the term objective. Speed and precision with a pad or stick is relative to the person using it NOT to you.

 

[Professor Beef]

You say that, but you aren't addressing anything I say. Are you saying that rolling a thumb is as fast as a twitch of the wrist for a stick? Or that you can rest more fingers on buttons in a natural state on a pad? Or hit more simultaneously without scrunching your hand?

You're not addressing anything I'm saying either, but I'll go along with this for the sake of argument.

I can access all 6 required buttons in SSFIV, for example, on my DS3. I'm rarely, if ever, going to need to hit all 6 at the same time, but I can thanks to macros. Wondering if I'm going to hit a button or not is not an issue. Same with motions, but if you want to get into semantics, all I would need to do is "flick my wrist" to move my character around, too.

 

[crimzonflame]

Overall I think sticks are better but it really depends on the game/character you're playing. And even then, the difference isn't going to be so big that a person who's more comfortable with a pad should automatically switch over to a stick.

This game is very pad-friendly compared to SF and Marvel and stuff. I think Justin Wong even said he was playing this game on a pad.

But yeah, even though I think sticks are more more conductive to mid/high-level play for most games, if a person is skilled enough and wants to use pad, then there's little that can't be done on a pad.

Yep, Justin Wong said he prefers to play this using the PS3 pad on his twitter.

 

[Teknoman]

Damn Gary, that was a cool match. lol at the 3rd round freeze teleport, that was just lucky Sucks whenever you miss a fatality after a good fight though. (first fight anyway).

 

[Anticitizen One]

I played this game so much that my thumbs have gotten blisters. That ps3 d-pad sure is painful.

 

[Shin Dynamo X]

I played this game so much that my thumbs have gotten blisters. That ps3 d-pad sure is painful.

I can't imagine the 360 Dpad being any better...seriously.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Cyber Sub Zero is the only character that can viably do dive kick juggles :-(

I got Sonya's to combo after a neutral jump BP in the corner, but that's not really useful...

Kung Lao's is impossible, and no other characters have dive kicks, right?

 

[Teknoman]

I played this game so much that my thumbs have gotten blisters. That ps3 d-pad sure is painful.

Gotta play more d-pad useful games. Break the d-pad in and its just fine.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Given the pad discussion here, does anyone have any recommendations for a good fightpad for the 360?

 

[Aske]

You say that, but you aren't addressing anything I say. Are you saying that rolling a thumb is as fast as a twitch of the wrist for a stick? Or that you can rest more fingers on buttons in a natural state on a pad? Or hit more simultaneously without scrunching your hand?

Depends on the D-pad. I find using most d-pads (including the DS3) significantly faster than using a stick. Sweeping my thumb from one arm of the cross to the other for a QCF feels quicker than moving my whole wrist, same with a DP or 360 motion. A stick's button layout is generally superior to a pad because it's far easier to hit various combinations simultaneously, and many pads only have 4 face buttons; but depending on the game this isn't always a problem (MK for example). And pads like the Saturn with six face buttons solve the issue completely.

I prefer a pad for everything. I learned to play these games primarily on the SNES; my trips to the arcade were infrequent. So I hate sticks, and love D-pads. I can see why people who learned to play these games on arcade machines prefer sticks, but even after extensive stick use I find the sluggishness and clunkiness doesn't go away. I'm sure it would if I practiced enough...but why bother when I can already do everything I want with a pad?

As Professor Beef says, the best controller to use is the one that works best for you.

 

[Seraphis Cain]

As Professor Beef says, the best controller to use is the one that works best for you.

Not according to most stick users.

Spoiler

Pad > stick

 

[Enk]

Is there any word on when/if the first big league tournament for this is going to take place? Really curious to see some of the Street Fighter/MvC tournament regulars play this.

 

[FallingEdge]

It'll be interesting to see how the various infinites/block infinites come into play.

Should be fun

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Is there any word on when/if the first big league tournament for this is going to take place? Really curious to see some of the Street Fighter/MvC tournament regulars play this.

They are.

 

[Teknopathetic]

First big tournament is going to be the 21000$ PDP Official MK Tournament in the middle of May.

 

[SentientStone]

Yep, Justin Wong said he prefers to play this using the PS3 pad on his twitter.

Ah, I preferred the PS3 pad over my Virtua Stick Pro, but thought the MK Tournament Stick might make things better. My TE should arrive next week, but now I am thinking perhaps I should just sell that and stick with the pad. I do want the Ermac skin though. :/

 

[ferr]

You'll be wishing he was bugged later in the story

Down Up Back Forward X a million times. Fun fight though.

 

[weepy]

I love this game to death, but the online is ass. Is anyone having any problems with the Live version?

 

[Enk]

First big tournament is going to be the 21000$ PDP Official MK Tournament in the middle of May.

Nice! Looking forward to watching it.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Ah, I preferred the PS3 pad over my Virtua Stick Pro, but thought the MK Tournament Stick might make things better. My TE should arrive next week, but now I am thinking perhaps I should just sell that and stick with the pad. I do want the Ermac skin though. :/

Don't knock it until you try it.

 

[Sinatar]

I'm far better with my craptacular Hori stick then the stock 360 pad, so I can only imagine having a good stick would be even better.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"I love this game to death, but the online is ass. Is anyone having any problems with the Live version?"

People are having problems with both versions. The netcode is terrible on both platforms (when PSN is actually up).

 

[ProtoCents]

Matchmaking is ass for ranked. Looking for game... looking for game... looking for game. So much for ranked. Oh well, on to the lobby challenges.

Edit: ^^Jinx^^

 

[ZoddGutts]

It's probably been mentioned already but if not. NRS has been doing stealth updates to the game, fixing infinite combo's and other glitches. No patches needed. All you need to do is log online.

 

[Seraphis Cain]

It's probably been mentioned already but if not. NRS has been doing stealth updates to the game, fixing infinite combo's and other glitches. No patches needed. All you need to do is log online.

What I've been wondering about this is do the changes from the "on-the-fly" fixes still apply if you play offline?

 

[Soulscribe]

I absolutely adore Kitana except for that weird air hovering thing she does where she dashes across the stage in mid air. I keep accidentally doing it and it breaks my momentum. I end up landing on the ground then getting bitch slapped.

I think the solution is that I have to be better.

 

[Dacvak]

I wish there were a way to export some of this art. I really want that scorpion reveal render as my desktop background.

 

[Teknoman]

It's probably been mentioned already but if not. NRS has been doing stealth updates to the game, fixing infinite combo's and other glitches. No patches needed. All you need to do is log online.

Thats kinda cool. Is all this info on themortalkombat.com or else where?

 

[Anyanka]

It'll be interesting to see how the various infinites/block infinites come into play.

Should be fun

The infinites from the demo and pre patch or something new?

 

[SentientStone]

Don't knock it until you try it.

What do people with TE sticks think?
Is it much easier to play with the TE stick compared to normal 6 button standard layout arcade sticks?

 

[Carnby]

What do people with TE sticks think?
Is it much easier to play with the TE stick compared to normal 6 button standard layout arcade sticks?

I love my TE stick. It feels exactly like the stick I used to play MK 1 through 3 in the golden years of the arcade.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I wonder if the TE will be 40$ in two months like the halo reach legendary...

 

[Raxus]

First character I really want to learn is sub-zero. Any videos/guides of someone really good with the character?

 

[notworksafe]

First character I really want to learn is sub-zero. Any videos/guides of someone really good with the character?

Testyourmight.com is the place to go for MK guides/higher level strats,

Sub Zero forum: http://testyourmight.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?103-Sub-Zero

 

[Carnby]

I wonder if the TE will be 40$ in two months like the halo reach legendary...

I hope so! I would be another right now if I could afford it.

 

[Dacvak]

Fuck the screamers in th krypt.

 

[Teknoman]

First character I really want to learn is sub-zero. Any videos/guides of someone really good with the character?

What i'm trying to find out is if there is any real use for the foot freeze or the back+ Triangle/Y strike. Both seem too slow to be of any real use, and there isnt a dizzy mode for characters.

 

[SmithnCo]

Fuck the screamers in th krypt.

lol, they took me aback at first but they look goofy after you've already seen em.

I heard they might give you money if you see them too? Any confirmation?