I seriously can't wait to watch this whole season over once its finished knowing what we know now and whatever else the final two episodes reveal. Going to feel like a whole new experience probably.
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I seriously can't wait to watch this whole season over once its finished knowing what we know now and whatever else the final two episodes reveal. Going to feel like a whole new experience probably.
He has to be dead because Angela knows he's dead and I'm pretty sure she reaffirms it as fact in her own words. Cause I assume open casket funeral and all that. The only thing that seems to be unreliable is when we step into Elliot's POV, or I suppose whenever we see Mr. Robot. But I think Esmail might be able to pull off his father still being alive, just wonder exactly how.
Dominican Power
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So how do you explain him talking to Tyrell?
And it would convolute things in the past as well, like having to explain how he just apparently waltzed into AllSafe in view of anyone to see while chatting with Elliot, why his sister has never even acknowledged him as their dad, etc..
Having a Tyler Durden type reveal would pretty much answer those questions immediately. At the same time though Elliot feels even more unreliable than the narrator in Fight Club; imagines government dudes after him, does drugs, forgets the entire existense of his sister and his father to some extent, not just Mr. Robot. Makes it so pretty much anything is possible at this point.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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With Hannibal and Person of Interest ending, there is finally a successor worthy enough for this GIF:
It was actually Elliot talking to Tyrell. Same with when Mr. Robot talks to anyone else; it's really just Elliot.
Dominican Power
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Also, that explains why Darlene is so hell bent on taking down Evil Corp.
metsallica
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Not getting what happened in that episode to make people think Elliot's dad is still alive. He's in his head, he's his imaginary friend. Sometimes he talks to him (he's not talking to us, the audience, in those sequences). Sometimes he takes on aspects of his personality. Those are the times we see Mr. Robot take charge; others still see Elliot. That episode simply cemented the prevailing theory.
Stoze knows!
Stoze knows!
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I wonder if Tyrell has clicked to Elliot having two personalities. Maybe that's the secret he's referring to. What if Tyrell knows when Elliot is Elliot and when Mr Robot is running the show?
But seriously, this episode was body punch after body punch. Gideon confronting Eliot, Tyrel constantly on the edge of breaking down, BD Wong (what!?), Darlene being Elliot's sister, and then the Mr Robot reveal (maybe, probably).
Jesus, and it was done so spectacularly well. Girl playing Darlene was excellent tonight. Malek great as usual. Tyrell and his wife continue to be fascinating. Wonder what she's planning next. That meeting with White Rose was odd. I feel like we'll definitely see her again.
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Mr Robot can't be alive. It's Elliot seeing his dad as he looked like at the age of his death. But the fact that he forgot what he looked like, and forgot his sister altogether.
Jesus.
But seriously, this episode was body punch after body punch. Gideon confronting Eliot, Tyrel constantly on the edge of breaking down, BD Wong (what!?), Darlene being Elliot's sister, and then the Mr Robot reveal (maybe, probably).
Jesus, and it was done so spectacularly well. Girl playing Darlene was excellent tonight. Malek great as usual. Tyrell and his wife continue to be fascinating. Wonder what she's planning next. That meeting with White Rose was odd. I feel like we'll definitely see her again.
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Oh God, I hope Tyrell isn't planning to murder Gideon
Mr Robot can't be alive. It's Elliot seeing his dad as he looked like at the age of his death. But the fact that he forgot what he looked like, and forgot his sister altogether.
Jesus.
If they wanted to reveal mr Robot is in Elliot's head I'd have him just sitting in the room in the darkness and then getting up "saying we need to talk", instead of having him knock on the front door.
Mr Robot could have been able to walk into all safe as easily BECAUSE they know he's Elliot's dad. Considering Elliot has selective hearing and, apparently, crazy memory problems he could easily subconsciously ignore/forget/or twist in his head anything that has to do with his dad. Or noone knows who Elliot's dad is. Was Angela even in the building at the time?
Anyway you can easily argue for both stances because Elliot has delusions and other mental problems.
If Angela also thinks Elliot's dad is dead it could be because the dad faked his death or whatever.
To me it seems like characters interact differently with mr Robot than they do Elliot too.
Also does anyone think there will be a follow up on Shayla's murder? A crime investigation implicating a connection to Elliot? I guess this isn't that kind of show.
Mr Robot could have been able to walk into all safe as easily BECAUSE they know he's Elliot's dad. Considering Elliot has selective hearing and, apparently, crazy memory problems he could easily subconsciously ignore/forget/or twist in his head anything that has to do with his dad. Or noone knows who Elliot's dad is. Was Angela even in the building at the time?
Anyway you can easily argue for both stances because Elliot has delusions and other mental problems.
If Angela also thinks Elliot's dad is dead it could be because the dad faked his death or whatever.
To me it seems like characters interact differently with mr Robot than they do Elliot too.
Also does anyone think there will be a follow up on Shayla's murder? A crime investigation implicating a connection to Elliot? I guess this isn't that kind of show.
Dominican Power
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Are The Chinese that god like at hacking? Murica needs to step it up.
PHOENIXZERO
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The Chinese and likely their government hack or try to hack our government and companies all the time.
They skipped a month, police probably wouldn't have cause to dig much deeper than her body being in the trunk by the body of Vera's brother, I think they'd just conclude something happened and Vera or one of his associates did it which they did.
They skipped a month, police probably wouldn't have cause to dig much deeper than her body being in the trunk by the body of Vera's brother, I think they'd just conclude something happened and Vera or one of his associates did it which they did.
China is responsible for more than a third of all cyber crime worldwide.
Napoleonthechimp
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Yeah, I always thought of him as being Kevin Bacon's age (ie old enough to be my dad). Or maybe I just get those two confused.
I'm sure next season mr. Robot/elliot or just elliot is gonna hunt the mofucka aka Vera down because I can just see him going for revenge like Big Boss.
Dominican Power
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I'm aware that they put in work but what makes them better than us?
Is whiterose backed by the Chinese government?
It would fit. It would also explain why Tyrell took an interest in Elliot the day he visited All Safe because they had already met before.
bodyboarder
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I still can't get over how good this show is.
MisterFalcon
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They can make a scene of Elliot in his office an amazing visual feast and a give it a gut wrenching tension. The way Elliot is always razor sharp in focus while he and the camera move around and things fade in and out of view is extremely impressive.
It's also a frightening look into the mind of a psycho:
"I hacked Gideon and know what he is: a good person who looks after his people. I'll still have to destroy him for my cause which I believe will help everyone." I'm half expecting a reveal he has been manipulated by a rival to E Corp who are as bad or worse.
This is one show that feels like The Sixth Sense in which you really want to go back and rewatch it all to see what clues there were and make more sense of it all. Think I may wait until the season is over to do that. But it's rare that I want to completely rewatch a TV show. Simply awesome.
The shot where Darlene walks up to the camera and then looks about and the camera lingers was excellent.
You got the slow pan out shot which cuts to another wide space shot that is a slow pan in.
Throughout the episode you got the camera invasively close to Tyrell as he is losing himself, the camera in swings with his head.
The cinematography is fucking exceptional in this show. I would love season 2 to be longer if they can maintain the quality, if not I am ok for the next season being the same length as season 1.
You got the slow pan out shot which cuts to another wide space shot that is a slow pan in.
Throughout the episode you got the camera invasively close to Tyrell as he is losing himself, the camera in swings with his head.
The cinematography is fucking exceptional in this show. I would love season 2 to be longer if they can maintain the quality, if not I am ok for the next season being the same length as season 1.
forgeforsaken
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Also remember Tyrell In the pilot telling Eliot how much he was looking forwards to working with him.
OdysseusVA
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He setup the honeypot because Elliot lied about the server being clean.
helloresolven
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Welp, I guess I'm going to have to rewatch this once the season is over, just to see how how much more makes sense knowing Darlene's his sister. WTF.
I'm aware, it was just weird seeing him go off on Elliot at his desk for not behaving like the other employees. Since that's kinda his deal.
well his thing this whole time has been trying to have Eliot be part of the team, like inviting him to his house and everything, so having Eliot not be there during that moment makes him think Eliot doesnt care about him or the company (which he doesn't haha)
Fun fact: The software (DeepSound) that Elliot uses to hide files within audio files is actually legit and works very well!
Miles Quaritch
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Holy shit, what an episode.
I kind of figured out that Trenton might he his dad, but Darlene his sister? Didn't see that coming at all.
And goddamn at Tyrell's wife inducing labour with the fork. Fuck.
I kind of figured out that Trenton might he his dad, but Darlene his sister? Didn't see that coming at all.
And goddamn at Tyrell's wife inducing labour with the fork. Fuck.
You don't think it strange at all that Mr. Robot knocks on the door the second after Elliot finally remembers his dad? Besides being a room in the dark is way too obvious/on the nose.
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Zoe
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You have to be buzzed in to get into Elliot's building.
I see where you're coming from. But since he kissed his sister on the mouth that night. She probably told their dad that Elliot had another memory episode or whatever. She said "did you forget AGAIN", I think. So it is something that has happened a bunch of times.
As for why he showed up at that exact moment. Cinematic time is more efficient than realistic time. This isn't the first time a character shows up right after something shocking has been discovered to vomit exposition in a show. I think.
Hasn't Darlene gotten into Elliot's building and apartment without getting buzzed in first? I may be wrong on this. What if mr Robot lives in the same building? What if he has the key to keep an eye on Elliot?
All of this seems more likely to you than MR being one of Elliot's many, confirmed hallucinations? That their father, who Darlene has never remotely acknowledged as such, lives in his building, goes with him on a road trip during cold turkey withdrawal and strolls into his workplace dressed like a homeless person? That's some stretching.
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From my previous post.
One of the best episodes from a series since the end of LOST. I haven't seen something like this in a long time. I was in shock actually. I Never, never think of that Darlene could be his sister only after the cry start. My man, I want this to continue, to the next level of Season 2 madness. So satisfied.
In this episode, in the first minutes of it, now I notice how every time Elliot was starting to talk with his group, Mr.Robot was always standing behind them, without anyone noticing him. Once Elliot finished, Mr.Robot talked. Yep, he was Mr.Robot all this time.
How do you imagine Darlene should have acknowledged mr Robot as their father if he was real? Constantly calling him "dad" or what?
How come we've never seen Angela mention Elliot's sister to him before? Angela and Darlene are friends apparently? You can imagine it would come up.
sooperkool
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Haas Angela ever been in a scene with MR? I mean we know that Elliott hallucinates and what we see often reflects what he sees. Just because he sees MR as his father doesn't mean that is actually who he is or even what he really looks like.
So just found out that Rami Malek has a twin. His name is Sami Malek. Would be crazy/hilarious to see them on a episode of Mr robot just for the hell of it. In like a hallucination scene or something lol
They could also swap Christian Slater for Charlie Day for an episode. That'd be great.
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