Sectorseven
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Maybe this is crazy, but do we know for a fact Elliot's father is dead? I know we saw the grave, but it's not like this show hasn't pulled one over on us before.
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Mr. Robot season_2.0 |OT| We Would Care, Bill - Wednesdays on USA
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Zoe
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Angela's referenced his death before.
It would be cheap to do that, you can keep people guessing but if at the end it feels cheap and not "oh yeah that totally feels right" it doesn't work, I don't think Esmail will do that.
10 episodes without Tyrell makes it obvious that he is rather dead or if he's not there's some kind of twist involving him and why he's alive which will be really hard to pull off in a convincing way given what we know so far. The only other thing I can think of is that those 3 days since the end of season 1 and this season can make a whole new season. I just feel Tyrell was way underused. All speculation of course.
Sectorseven
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I guess what I'm really wondering about is if Mr. Robot is assuming the form of someone else in his life who is very much alive. The way he disappeared after that phone call and that reference about Elliot seeing someone as a kid makes me wonder if Elliot has fooled himself into thinking Mr. Robot is what his father looked like.
Turin Turambar
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Lol, that's exactly the type of shit the creators of this series would do. Let's be honest here.
MegaManTrigger
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How? Mr. Robot makes sense because of his significance with regards to Elliot (being his dad, being someone he could relate to). Tyrell being a personality doesn't really make sense since Elliot lacks any sort of connection to him to the similar extent of Mr. Robot's connection with Elliot. The only way I can see a third voice working out is if Mr. Robot gets replaced with Tyrell to represent Phase II (and likely darker shit, like wanting to kill people where Mr. Robot only cared about taking down conglomerates).
Just binge watched the past 5 or so episodes and GODDAMN did it get good. It was pretty slow and hard for me to get into in the beginning but I'm glad I stuck through. What an intense ending to that last episode. I was worried that it was the season finale when I started the episode. Happy to find out there's 3 left, but now I have to wait like the rest of you. God dammit.
Zoe
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But the creators have said they have no interest in doing something like that repeatedly.
RastaMentality
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Ghost_Messiah
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It's one of the best shows on television right now and I'm enjoying it immensely. Both twists from season 1 and 2 punched me straight in the face with awesomeness. Seriously that's the only way I can describe it - they both came out of nowhere. I hadn't read all the fan theories beforehand so I had zero inclination either was going to happen.
So excited for the final two episodes and I'm super glad this has been renewed for a season 3. Roll on next week.
So excited for the final two episodes and I'm super glad this has been renewed for a season 3. Roll on next week.
I mean if you're going to get shot at, the first thing you do is hit the floor instead of screaming "DUCK!" It's a reaction.
That and there are already holes in the theory of Tyrell == Elliot given they talk to each other at Allsafe, are in the same meeting with Terry Colby, Tyrell speaks to E Corp people/staff, etc. There's been intentional framing like Season 1 to have that theory hold.
Androidsleeps
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The episode was fucking fantastic, those last few episodes have been crazy.
Glad the show picked up in the best way imaginable.
EDIT: and the music...fuck
Glad the show picked up in the best way imaginable.
EDIT: and the music...fuck
Turin Turambar
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Snakethesniper
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Wasn't it though? It's an arc with elliot fighting Mr Robot and come to the conclusion that it cannot defeat it but collaborate with it
Captain_Spanky
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And Elliot being isolated from Fsociety directly led to the current situation.
Zoe
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Everything that was shown did happen. The only thing wrong was the background.
Turin Turambar
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MegaManTrigger
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How is a prison reveal comparable to a third personality? It doesn't make sense at all.
Also the prison reveal is relevant to the story, it was part of Elliot controlling Mr. Robot before he could go back to society. None of the other storylines would make gel if Elliot didn't go through what he did in prison.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
CTO of ECorp. Beat out Tyrell for the position. Tyrell ended up killing his wife and is the main suspect in her murder.
Oh ok. I remember him, just didn't remember his name. Thanks.
Just throwing it out there to cover all my bases.
Because he used to send her gifts just like that. Plus who sends those kinds of gifts just to screw with people?
I think this show is a little over your head.
SO?! Have you been watching this show at all?
Why would Elliot align himself with Tyrell only to kill him? It makes zero sense. Explain why he would kill him? Please enlighten us. Also tell me why they keep listing his name in the credits if he's dead. He's not even starring in the episodes.
But no you're right. They decided to off one of the most interesting characters/antagonists of the show in the first season without resolving what him and his wife's plan was all along. And you're also right. His body is in his SUV. lol wtf?
All this coming from the guy who thought the phone calls were coming from inside Elliot's house.
Before you question someone else's opinion you should probably pay more attention to the show.
It would be boring and pointless if Tyrell is dead. Unless there's more too it than Elliot shot him on 5/9. It's a central mystery of this season. There better be some payoff.
Can I just give a shout out to the *amazing* Dom
Can I just give a shout out to the *amazing* Dom
pov shootout in China. So intense and realistic feeling.
Intheflorsh
Banned
Was Tyrell's actor busy with something else this season?
Yeah, that shootout gave me serious PTSD so I thought it was pretty intense and felt real.
Nah, his name was in the opening credits of each episode this season.
Intheflorsh
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That's a nice deal for him to get a paid vacation.
Sectorseven
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This is an actor we're talking about. He's probably pissed he's got no screen time.
bitbydeath
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If Tyrell was dead we'd know for sure by now.
Keeping everything a mystery is obviously suspect.
Keeping everything a mystery is obviously suspect.
DeviantBoi
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Are we getting a 2-hour finale this week?
Or is it just 1 hour next week?
Or is it just 1 hour next week?
I have a feeling that the whole thing with Elliot and the gun is that Romero saw Tyrell with Elliot and they killed him at his home. I'm not sure what to make of the bullet casing found at the arcade but if someone was killed there, there would be blood. It doesn't add up.
I genuinely doubt that Elliot killed Tyrell. I think Esmail is trying making a distinction between Elliot and Darlene where one is not comfortable with murder and the other is. And there will probably be a theme later on where Elliot's hero complex is shattered when he finds that he indirectly gets a lot of people killed.
Edit: rather, Tyrell killed Rom. Not sure if Elliot is aware although maybe subliminally.
I genuinely doubt that Elliot killed Tyrell. I think Esmail is trying making a distinction between Elliot and Darlene where one is not comfortable with murder and the other is. And there will probably be a theme later on where Elliot's hero complex is shattered when he finds that he indirectly gets a lot of people killed.
Edit: rather, Tyrell killed Rom. Not sure if Elliot is aware although maybe subliminally.
davidwhangchoi
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i'm so hyped for wed!
i want to see what happened at the diner from inside
i want to see what happened at the diner from inside
That's a good question, he was found dead by Mobley in ep3 this season with a "bad smell", so is fair game to say he could be dead since his previous last episode appearance. Yes I know, not that much help. I speculate he was probably terminated during Elliot's missing 3 days or right after.
Zoe
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Ok, an article written about Gideon's death was dated June 16th, and it says he was shot that Sunday. Unless they played loose with the timeline, Mobley discovered Romero sometime around then.
At that point, Elliot had already been in jail for about a month. Romero's body looked way too fresh to have been lying there the whole time.
schadenfood
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Ohhh bummer, I was hoping they both aired this week.