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[Krathoon]

The whole point of this show is to lead into The Marvels, so that has to happen.

Oh. They are Marvel-ing it up. Neat idea.

 

[ManaByte]

Oh. They are Marvel-ing it up. Neat idea.

That movie is going to have Brie Larson, a Pakistani Muslim girl from Jersey City, and Monica Rambeau. If you thought this thread was bad, hold on to your butts.

 

[Krathoon]

They are leaning on the girl/women power. I wish the kept that scene where Captain Marvel smacks that guy around. It made her look kinda toxic. It could have been one of those Marvel character flaws.

 

[Krathoon]

Here is the scene. I was wrong. She does not smack the guy around. She just hurts his hand. They should have kept it. She was being a dick.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Here is the scene. I was wrong. She does not smack the guy around. She just hurts his hand. They should have kept it. She was being a dick.

That would have made that movie even worse

 

[Krathoon]

Captain Marvel is kind of a jerk sometimes in the comics. She also had a drinking problem.
Here is a link about her jerkiness. She does have her reasons.

When Did Carol Danvers Develop a Drinking Problem?

You have questions, CSBG has answers! When did Carol Danver develop a problem with alcohol?

www.cbr.com

 

[nush]

That movie is going to have Brie Larson, a Pakistani Muslim girl from Jersey City, and Monica Rambeau. If you thought this thread was bad, hold on to your butts.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I just vomited in my mouth

 

[RoboFu]

I watched the first episode… an her power comes from her bracelet in this universe?? What kind of stupid shit is that!?

 

[ManaByte]

I watched the first episode… an her power comes from her bracelet in this universe?? What kind of stupid shit is that!?

The excuse was that because she's in The Marvels with Captain Marvel and Photon they wanted her powers to be light-based to fit in with them better. It's stupid, yes.

 

[sol_bad]

I watched the first episode… an her power comes from her bracelet in this universe?? What kind of stupid shit is that!?

Watch episode 2 and there is a hint at something else going on in relation to her powers. Loved the second episode as well, I really like how we are just spending time with Kamala and getting to know her. Her heroics are also very low stakes within the neighborhood. Only complaint is that it didn't have as much visual stylings as the first episode.

 

[Amiga]

They’re using a group that isn’t really a Ms. Marvel villain. It’s actually more of a X-Men villain.

http://[URL][URL]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Clan_Destine_(Earth-616)

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When did they become villians?

The excuse was that because she's in The Marvels with Captain Marvel and Photon they wanted her powers to be light-based to fit in with them better. It's stupid, yes.

She is Quasar now?

 

[Krathoon]

Yeah. They kind of screw around with the origins of characters a little too much in the MCU. They have really been doing that with the Marvels.

 

[sol_bad]

Yeah. They kind of screw around with the origins of characters a little too much in the MCU. They have really been doing that with the Marvels.

Not really, Hulk and Captain Marvel are the only other characters I can really think of where their origins are changed up. I guess Photon as well, I don't know her origin yet in the comics.

 

[Krathoon]

Not really, Hulk and Captain Marvel are the only other characters I can really think of where their origins are changed up. I guess Photon as well, I don't know her origin yet in the comics.

Wanda, Quicksilver, and Vision have altered origins. I think Ultron's origin is different. Doctor Strange's stayed pretty much the same, but they changed his master to a woman.
Vision's new form originates differently in the comics.
Mysterio is a whole different character, but makes more sense.

 

[sol_bad]

Wanda, Quicksilver, and Vision have altered origins. I think Ultron's origin is different. Doctor Strange's stayed pretty much the same, but they changed his master to a woman.
Vision's new form originates differently in the comics.
Mysterio is a whole different character, but makes more sense.

I was more focused on the heroes, not the villains.
I totally forgot about Wanda and Quicksilver, they were changed out of necessity though since they couldn't be mutants. I think MCU Wanda matches up with modern comics more though where she is more focused on witch craft.
Vision was still made by Ultron whether it's MCU or comics. Ultron's origin is different though, again due to necessity with Edgar Wright failing to start production on Ant-Man in time and then having creative differences when he was ready to commence.

 

[DeafTourette]

I just vomited in my mouth

Why? She's cute as heck!

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Why? She's cute as heck!

Only if you're a male feminist

 

[DeafTourette]

Only if you're a male feminist

I don't know who she is so I'll take your word for it that she's a nonce.

 

[jimmypython]

So far this is the best Marvel Disney+ show for me. This gives me serious old school super hero show vibes

 

[BadBurger]

So the love interest is a plant from SHIELD or something right?

 

[DeafTourette]

So the love interest is a plant from SHIELD or something right?

SHIELD doesn't exist in the MCU anymore. Probably Clan Destine. The "mom" was in Kamala's vision when she was trying to save the boy.

 

[sol_bad]

So the love interest is a plant from SHIELD or something right?

I hope not, that would be boring.

 

[ManaByte]

So the love interest is a plant from SHIELD or something right?

It’s Red Dagger.

 

[Toons]

This actress for kamala is INCREDIBLY charming. Cant believe shrs straight out of high school. She's a natural

 

[Classicrockfan]

So is she younger than Peter Parker,didn’t catch what grade she was in?

 

[Toons]

Only woke people think like that.

So why am I not surprised that you are the prime target audience for this show?

Romaticizing Islam is a f*cking dumb Idea, even by Marvel standards.

Marvel romanticizes murder(like every avenger), lying to government officials(cap and black widow), violating national borders(every avenger), theft(ant man), fighting and injuring cops just doing their job(cap in civil war) and all kinds of stuff but a girl walking into a mosque is too far?

Lol

 

[DeafTourette]

Only woke people think like that.

So why am I not surprised that you are the prime target audience for this show?

Romaticizing Islam is a f*cking dumb Idea, even by Marvel standards.

You REALLY hate Islam! And since you're not watching the show, your opinion on it is not valid.

 

[DeafTourette]

Folks saying they're criticizing a show they aren't watching and believing it's valid criticism... LMBO!

 

[sol_bad]

It’s Red Dagger.

Are you sure? Kamran in the comics is someone different.

*EDIT*
I know Red Dagger is in the show as well. But they might be 2 separate characters like the comic.

Red Dagger (Kareem) (Earth-616)

20 appearance(s) of Red Dagger (Kareem) (Earth-616) 3 minor appearance(s) of Red Dagger (Kareem) (Earth-616) 2 mention(s) of Red Dagger (Kareem) (Earth-616) 16 image(s) of Red Dagger (Kareem) (Earth-616) 1 quotation(s) by or about Red Dagger (Kareem) (Earth-616)

marvel.fandom.com

Kamran (Earth-616)

7 appearance(s) of Kamran (Earth-616) 1 minor appearance(s) of Kamran (Earth-616) 5 mention(s) of Kamran (Earth-616) 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Kamran (Earth-616) 8 image(s) of Kamran (Earth-616) 1 quotation(s) by or about Kamran (Earth-616)

marvel.fandom.com

 

[jezhumphrey75]

do i have to watch this as part of the full mcu storyline? just finished falcon and the winter soldier so im way behind.

 

[ManaByte]

do i have to watch this as part of the full mcu storyline? just finished falcon and the winter soldier so im way behind.

Yes if you plan on seeing The Marvels. Or you can listen to the people who scream that the Disney+ shows aren't needed like WandaVision and then to cry on Twitter about Doctor Strange destroying Wanda for making her the villain because you didn't see the show.

 

[Doom85]

Yes if you plan on seeing The Marvels. Or you can listen to the people who scream that the Disney+ shows aren't needed like WandaVision and then to cry on Twitter about Doctor Strange destroying Wanda for making her the villain because you didn't see the show.

Which is funny because even Dr. Strange 2 had at least one line IIRC stating that the Darkhold corrupts the mind of the user yet a ton of people were all, “why is she acting this way?!”

 

[ManaByte]

After the first two episodes I'm leaning towards this eclipsing Shang-Chi as the best of Phase 4.

 

[sol_bad]

Which is funny because even Dr. Strange 2 had at least one line IIRC stating that the Darkhold corrupts the mind of the user yet a ton of people were all, “why is she acting this way?!”

It even beat you over the head with an evil corrupted Doctor Strange from another reality.

 

[BadBurger]

It’s Red Dagger.

So I just learned about another new character.

I should really get back into Marvel comics. I am so out of the loop.

That movie is going to have Brie Larson, a Pakistani Muslim girl from Jersey City, and Monica Rambeau. If you thought this thread was bad, hold on to your butts.

Same energy:

 

[Ulysses 31]

'Ms. Marvel' Viewership Dramatically Lower Than Other Disney+ Marvel Series - WDW News Today

The new Marvel series on Disney+ has not as popular as expected. Read more on why the 'Ms. Marvel' viewership is so low.

wdwnt.com

 

[DeafTourette]

http://[URL]https://wdwnt.com/2022/...ically-lower-than-other-disney-marvel-series/

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The first tweet tells me POC were the biggest demographics watching with relatively few white households watching.

The show is really good, tho! Maybe word of mouth will help it... But the outrage YouTubers and the folks who listen to ONLY them will hold some viewership back.

Also, I think folks are expecting action from jump. It'll come. Just not like in Moon Knight

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

'Ms. Marvel' Viewership Dramatically Lower Than Other Disney+ Marvel Series - WDW News Today

The new Marvel series on Disney+ has not as popular as expected. Read more on why the 'Ms. Marvel' viewership is so low.

wdwnt.com

Not surprised. As I said this is a huge risk for Marvel and Disney.

 

[DeafTourette]

Folks: complaining about Marvel formula

Marvel: changes formula

Folks: complain about Marvel changing formula

 

[Ulysses 31]

Folks: complaining about Marvel formula

Marvel: changes formula

Folks: complain about Marvel changing formula

I think her comics was cancelled rebooted several times already, she's a tough sell for some reason.

 

[strange headache]

So much for Muslim tolerance:

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Authorities across much of the Muslim world have barred Disney’s latest animated film “Lightyear” from being played at cinemas after the inclusion of a brief kiss between a lesbian couple, the company said Thursday as the movie premiered.

Nations that refused to allow the film to be shown include Bahrain, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Malaysia, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria and the United Arab Emirates, Disney said. The UAE, home to Abu Dhabi and Dubai, earlier this week announced it would not allow the film to screen.

Many Muslims consider gays and lesbians to be sinful. In some parts of the Arab world, members of the LGBTQ community have been arrested and sentenced to prison. Some countries even maintain the death penalty.

They should have made Kamala gay and watched American Muslims burn down the house.
For once it would have actually mattered, but we all know Marvel is too coward to take an actual stance on modern faith.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Folks: complaining about Marvel formula

Marvel: changes formula

Folks: complain about Marvel changing formula

That's so true lol

I have my issues with Phase 4 but they have been changing the formula. So that's not a negative to me

 

[March Climber]

I honestly was not expecting this serious of a thread for a show like this.

Regardless, so far it has been a refreshingly fun romp of a show. I'm not taking it as seriously as others here and it's been fun to watch for me. I'm hoping they can continue to be creative with the show's camerawork, effects, and artistic environmental storytelling. Some of it reminds me of Scott Pilgrim and it's not a bad thing to take inspiration from such a great movie.

 

[DKehoe]

So much for Muslim tolerance:



They should have made Kamala gay and watched American Muslims burn down the house.
For once it would have actually mattered, but we all know Marvel is too coward to take an actual stance on modern faith.

The most recent episode showed the women at the mosque being kept to an area with a worse view and with poorly maintained facilities. It’s actually taken more of a stance than I expected.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

The most recent episode showed the women at the mosque being kept to an area with a worse view and with poorly maintained facilities. It’s actually taken more of a stance than I expected.

Yeah it's like he hasn't actually watched the show lol

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

'Ms. Marvel' Viewership Dramatically Lower Than Other Disney+ Marvel Series - WDW News Today

The new Marvel series on Disney+ has not as popular as expected. Read more on why the 'Ms. Marvel' viewership is so low.

wdwnt.com

I'm one of those people. I watched all the other series but this looks like riverdale level bad and I never heard of the character. I never heard of of moonknight either, but I like the actor so I gave that a shot and really liked it.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I think people are focusing way too much on the Muslim stuff. I'm Jewish and I can really care less unless it contain some anti-semitic or anti-Israel rhetoric which obviously it's not.

Let Muslims (and little girls) they're superhero while we have Moon Knight.... and Kitty Pride, Thing and Magneto.

Besides, I can't actually see the show being too welcome in the more hardcore Muslim countries anyways, ironically sort of.

Edit: I bet this comic wouldn't fly today.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I think people are focusing way too much on the Muslim stuff. I'm Jewish and I can really care less unless it contain some anti-semitic or anti-Israel rhetoric which obviously it's not.

Let them they're superhero while we have Moon Knight.... and Kitty Pride, Thing and Magneto.

Besides, I can't actually see the show being too welcome in the more hardcore Muslim countries anyways, ironically sort of.

Edit: I bet this comic wouldn't fly today.

I agree her religion doesn't bother me at all. I'm really enjoying the show. I hope they can keep the quality consistent during all 6 episodes

 

[DeafTourette]

So much for Muslim tolerance:



They should have made Kamala gay and watched American Muslims burn down the house.
For once it would have actually mattered, but we all know Marvel is too coward to take an actual stance on modern faith.

You haven't watched the show whatsoever and giving opinions based on the opinions of others. That's disingenuous AF! LOL