This will not be demonstrated at E3.
MS haven't got Skydrive to work right yet, never mind this cloud cuckoo shit.
MS: Xbox One 40x More Powerful Than 360 with the Cloud, Only 10x Without the Cloud
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This will not be demonstrated at E3.
MS haven't got Skydrive to work right yet, never mind this cloud cuckoo shit.
AppleSmack
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I'm a bit confused about what Microsoft means. Was there other details revealed? Are they saying that parts of the game will be processed on external hardware and the result streamed to the system?
Cloud processing is not going to boost your console's graphical output any time soon. It's not practical or feasible.
NullPointer
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How many days until we get to see this infinite power demonstrated on stage?
they said nothing. only PR mumbo jumbo
rohlfinator
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Jon Blow called them out again on Twitter:
Azure seems to be working just fine believe what you want im not calling BS on it until they prove they cant do it. I've learn the hard way never to underestimate MS.
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hey is your avatar from quantum break?
AppleSmack
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If they are going with the way I said it then their decision doesn't make too much sense. The money on all that external hardware would be better spent simply making the core Xbox One console more powerful.
dream431ca
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Cloud technology, especially for computations, is not a good idea. It works as a storage device, but as a helping hand with the arithmetic in games, the latency is just too large.
Jon Blow called them out again on Twitter:
hard to believe that this guy's gonna release a game on xbox one.
im pretty sure he can wait two weeks till e3. after that we can see if that stuff is bs or not.
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Oh man, they're actually going to advertise this.
I can't believe it, bwahaha
The sad thing is the mass market is going to eat this shit up, It's already happening at my job. I'm thoroughly embarrass to be associated with this species at the moment.
yeah it is
its kinda funny. i bet a lot of people who dont know anything about this stuff are going to buy these games blindly.
but like i said. lets reserve judgement until we see some actual gameplay powered by this cloud ^^
Do you even use Skydrive, works with absolutely no problems for me?
OT: Cloud looks like something that will take a year or so to lift off properly. But it is a very interesting concept, even without it I'm sure games will still look amazing.
Azure is a billion dollar business for them. They have it working. And what about SkyDrive isn't working right for you?
In related info, sebbbi(Lynx developer) at Beyond3D forums wrote some of this thoughts:
yeah it is
its kinda funny. i bet a lot of people who dont know anything about this stuff are going to buy these games blindly.
but like i said. lets reserve judgement until we see some actual gameplay powered by this cloud ^^
thats awesome man im looking forward to that game to see whats its about i love remedy sam lake said they are showing it at e3.
Vicetrailia
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It's merely marketing. And hey, looks like it worked.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
If the cloud appears at E3 you might want to pack your umbrella, cause it's gonna rain on your parade.
*sunglasses*
YYYEAAAAAHHHHHHH.
Yeah, nothing like spending the money for 300,000 servers for Live for marketing purposes.
IonicSnake
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Wasn't there a rumor from that Paul T guy that Live was going to be 10-15$ a month? Could it be to pay to keep these 300k servers up and running?
Man you guys are so negative about everything! I'm not a fanboy i don't care if it was sony or Ms doing it I like exciting tech that's it. you guys are too invested in your console wars leave me out of it I'm allowed to be excited about what i want to be excited about. Im not as negative thinking about things these companies don't pay my bills damn sure don't pay yours! i have no alliance with any of them i pay for whatever i like period i could care less who's name is on the box.
rohlfinator
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He was joking to point out the ridiculousness of how MS is fudging their numbers.
TouchMyBox
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The Blast Processing for the Youtube generation.
AppleSmack
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The hell caused this rant? For someone so desperate to let everyone know how much of a non-fanboy you are you aren't make your case very believable.
Cell will be the most powerful tech ever! Sony spent a lot on it, so it simply can't be marketing hype.
Wow, that's very defensive considering that no one here is accusing you of company bias.
Sohter.Nura
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So with the cloud, the Xbone's power is > 9000?
Sony is doomed now :I
Sony is doomed now :I
They certainly weren't planning on it being just hype for marketing purposes, lol. That is simply silliness.
No, but if they were thinking rationally at the time, I think Sony should have easily come to the conclusionthat it was silliness to expect so much from it at the expense of other things they had to leave out. I think Microsoft is in the same boat. If they think the cloud can seamlessly be integrated into games for a thirty fold increase in power by devs who have no experience with it... well, I think that sounds pretty unlikely. If anything it will be a laggy mess led by Microsoft thinking they're invincible at this point.
Blood Diamonds
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Certainly the numbers MS are spouting in regards to the cloud are hyperbole, but that doesn't change the fact that they are investing heavily in what they see as being a useful service for developers. And in this case, if it doesn't work, they can transition the servers over to other general purpose non-Live related computing tasks within Azure.
Absolutely. Every company on this planet does this with their products. But that is why we have discussions on the subject. So far though, the discussion has been, "lolz clowd". Instead of merely taking off fanboy goggles(since this technology is really company agnostic), and discussing what might possibly be feasible with this stuff.
I think they know exactly what it will do, but are making it sound much more impressive for purposes of marketing. Getting excited about it just sounds foolish.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I don't think you're a "fanboy"... just exceedingly gullible. This shit that you're hitching your cart to is make believe.
You do not have to wait until it gets attacked.
Just wait for Christmas (or the release date even)
NullPointer
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Well, we'll all see in a little over two weeks right?
If Forza 5 is playable, and uses the infinite powers of the cloud, we'll know just how much vapor there is to the cloud.
Vicetrailia
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The context is "infinite power of the cloud". That is nothing but marketing speak.
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Infinite fucking power. . . so the Xbone isn't Vegeta or Yamacha, but instead Broly!
Jesus, infinite power? Really? Really?
Remember a few weeks ago when we Arstechnica got their hands on that leaked interal memo sent to devs working on the XBO? It said:
Using the cloud and playing offline work directly against eachother...so if MS is encouraging devs to make games that work offline, how can they use the cloud? The flipside is that if they use the cloud, the game cant work offline since it wont be able to access the cloud. This doesnt make any sense to me.
Using the cloud and playing offline work directly against eachother...so if MS is encouraging devs to make games that work offline, how can they use the cloud? The flipside is that if they use the cloud, the game cant work offline since it wont be able to access the cloud. This doesnt make any sense to me.
LukasTaves
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But what they are doing is actually a lot more difficult to do than what Ms is proposing.
Edit: If you throw the garbage PR talk away, of course, and focus on what they will actually do.
Brad Grenz
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Remember all those promises they made when they debuted Natal? I'm sure it seemed like a working tech in the lab. But then they released it and in the wild it was a janky nightmare. That is about how I expect this cloud computing stuff to go down.
HocusPocus
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I'll wait to see it in action and then judge. Unlike most on this forum ahah. Damn the reactions to everything Xbox One on this forum remind me of the off topic forum with politics. Hive mind in action.
So....
will this "power" be available for silver members (who dont give MS any money besides purchasing the xbox one) or will they have to be content with the underpowered cloudless version?
Nothing wrong with that approach. If they don't have strong examples of this integration to show at E3 however, it'd be wise to take their claims with a massive grain of salt. We may be pleasantly surprised with what they pull off, but I certainly wouldn't be first in line to pay for a title that claims it utilizes "the infinite power of the cloud" as one of it's marketing bulletpoints.
johntown
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I think M$ has just done a poor job of explaining what they mean. I find it very plausible to have some app/icon on the XMB for this. Of course I hope they would give you a warning that you must stay online the whole time and have a fast connection.
If that were true then the app/icon would have games that would not install or have any disc but would render and work similar to OnLive (heck they could do that now for the 360 though). Yes, that would give 40x more power.
However, the cloud cannot work for any disc based game (to the best of my knowledge). The idea of some of the game being processed in the cloud is ridiculous.
I just think they need to explain it better to everyone......just my two cents. ^_^
If that were true then the app/icon would have games that would not install or have any disc but would render and work similar to OnLive (heck they could do that now for the 360 though). Yes, that would give 40x more power.
However, the cloud cannot work for any disc based game (to the best of my knowledge). The idea of some of the game being processed in the cloud is ridiculous.
I just think they need to explain it better to everyone......just my two cents. ^_^
Alx
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People keep saying that, and can never detail what part of the Natal concept video has been overpromised. Kinect does almost exactly everything that is featured in that video. The only things missing are the quiz show, and the "switch gears" motion in racers.
BlastProcessing
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