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[Draugoth]

It happend, my Intel 14th gen cpu has degraded after only 6 months of use even with the 1701 microcode update

I can still benchmark, play other games and stuff but Unreal Engine games and shader compilation which are extremely sensitive to CPU degradation are completely unstable unless i reduce power usage, voltage and clock speeds (X.M.P etc)

Great CPU if you don't need to worry about degradation.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Welcome to AMD and sorry about the death of your cpu

 

[MayauMiao]

It happend, my Intel 14th gen cpu has degraded after only 6 months of use even with the 1701 microcode update

I can still benchmark and stuff buy Unreal Engine games and shader compilation which are extremely sensitive to CPU degradation are completely unstable unless i reduce power usage, voltage and clock speeds (X.M.P etc)

Great CPU if you don't need to worry about degradation.

I see all that microcode didn't do jack shit. Luckily I decided to go AMD.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Sorry to hear..Intel really fucked up bad. If this happend years ago, they'd be gone for good after doing shit like this. Nowadays, corporations get away with anything. Thankfully I upgrade CPU every 5+ years or so, so I'm still good with my 12 gen.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

It happend, my Intel 14th gen cpu has degraded after only 6 months of use even with the 1701 microcode update

I can still benchmark and stuff buy Unreal Engine games and shader compilation which are extremely sensitive to CPU degradation are completely unstable unless i reduce power usage, voltage and clock speeds (X.M.P etc)

Great CPU if you don't need to worry about degradation.

Doesn't Intel cover this under warranty?

 

[Draugoth]

Doesn't Intel cover this under warranty?

Yes, but im waiting for my new CPU to arrive

 

[R3TRO]

Sheesh 6 months.

 

[Draugoth]

I see all that microcode didn't do jack shit. Luckily I decided to go AMD.

It did actually ,the problem was my ASUS motherboard, for some reason default settings were not respecting Intel safety parameters, they only adressed it on the 1801 update.

 

[Thebonehead]

Welcome to AMD and sorry about the death of your cpu

Wrong gif for PC -

 

[GHG]

It did actually ,the problem was my ASUS motherboard, for some reason default settingss were not respecting Intel safety parameters, they only adressed it on the 1801 update.

Asus motherboards are such a pile of shit with their updates and default settings man. Same goes for the AMD side as well.

When you're putting together your AMD build go for anything other than Asus.

 

[winjer]

The thing is that this problem still wasn't fixed.
Intel released a few days ago another bios update to try to fix the degradation problems.
The version is 0x12F. So for anyone with an Intel CPU, check if your motherboard maker for the latest UEFI.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-has-yet-another-microcode-for-13th-14th-gen-CPU-stability-issues.1013814.0.html

 

[MayauMiao]

It did actually ,the problem was my ASUS motherboard, for some reason default settingss were not respecting Intel safety parameters, they only adressed it on the 1801 update.

It may have fix the problem but such a patch is just an accident waiting to happen. This is what I fear most when I was deciding between intel or amd.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ahhh. Sorry to here, dude. I got my 13900ks upgraded to a 14900ks foc but I'm going amd for my sff build for my front room.

 

[Draugoth]

Asus motherboards are such a pile of shit with their updates and default settings man. Same goes for the AMD side as well.

When you're putting together your AMD build go for anything other than Asus.

I went with a x870e Asus board because it was the only available at discount and that had what i've needed, luckily im aware they do not respect safety standards with their default settings so i will be changing them myself

 

[RoboFu]

might as well buy a 9070 as well

 

[Kilau]

Incredible, I guess those benchmark bros are like single use disposable with their OC intel systems.

 

[rm082e]

Sorry to hear that. I think you'll be happy with AMD overall though. The new x3d chips are great for gaming.

 

[rubik's dude]

Does the manufacturer's warranty not cover that?

 

[Draugoth]

Does the manufacturer's warranty not cover that?

I still have two years of warranty so im waiting for my new AMD CPU to arrive

 

[SpokkX]

I dont think my 14700k performs as expected. I think windows scheduler pushes heavy loads to e cores sometimes. It leads to inconsistent performance and stuttering sometimes

My 9800x3d is SO much better and just 100% consistent

 

[Loomy]

6 months is crazy.

But yeah, AMD has been the better option for a while now, and with Intel deciding to self immolate, seems like they will be for a bit longer.

Ahhh. Sorry to here, dude. I got my 13900ks upgraded to a 14900ks foc but I'm going amd for my sff build for my front room.

What case are you going with for that? I ditched mine when the 3000 series cards came out because managing heat and those giant cards in an 11L case was a pain in the ass, but I want Steam in my living room now.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Ever since I did a BIOS update a few weeks ago my living room circuit breaker stopped randomly tripping. I'm wondering if my 13700F has been the cause.
Is that possible? The circuit is loaded up pretty full. Maybe 800W on a 15 amp 120V circuit.

 

[Draugoth]

Ever since I did a BIOS update a few weeks ago my living room circuit breaker stopped randomly tripping. I'm wondering if my 13700F has been the cause.
Is that possible? The circuit is loaded up pretty full. Maybe 800W on a 15 amp 120V circuit.

The best way to test is to update or downgrade drivers and test an Unreal Engine game by compiling shaders and using X.M.P, these games are extremely sensitive to CPU degradation

 

[dEvAnGeL]

My 13700k is still going strong. Delided. OC'd to 5.5 all P cores. Hopefully it will last me for a few more years.

 

[Draugoth]

My 13700k is still going strong. Delided. OC'd to 5.5 all P cores. Hopefully it will last me for a few more years.

The 14900K and 14900KS are by far the most unstable CPUs currently on the market.

 

[OverHeat]

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

WTF that's quick, did you overclock it or something? My over 8 year i7 5820k still works although I'm not sure if it's degraded since I'm only been playing modded Skyrim, RE4R, and FFVII Remake Intergrade in these last 6 months and nothing more demanding than them besides Oblivion Renaster which I had to refund cause it ran badly.

 

[Draugoth]

WTF that's quick, did you overclock it or something? My over 8 year i7 5820k still works although I'm not sure if it's degraded since I'm only been playing modded Skyrim, RE4R, and FFVII Remake Intergrade in these last 6 months and nothing more demanding than them besides Oblivion Renaster which I had to refund cause it ran badly.

Power Hungry and Unstable CPU + Default Asus BIOS Settings from 1701 microcode update which did not follow safety standards sadly.

Eveything that runs on Unreal Engine is crashing on shader compilation.

 

[Nvzman]

My 13700k is still going strong. Delided. OC'd to 5.5 all P cores. Hopefully it will last me for a few more years.

This is because the 13th and 14th i9s are the CPUs most vulnerable to the instability issues. My 13700k has been rock solid as well for over 2 years now, its actually been probably the most stable PC build I've ever had.

 

[kevboard]

Intel aren't a viable choice anymore in most circumstances... and they have themselves to blame for it.
they sat on their hands for too long, while AMD completely swung their dick across Intel's face.

 

[Draugoth]

This is because the 13th and 14th i9s are the CPUs most vulnerable to the instability issues. My 13700k has been rock solid as well for over 2 years now, its actually been probably the most stable PC build I've ever had.

I've read that 13700K is by far the most stable. 14900K/13900K are very prone to issues

 

[DenchDeckard]

6 months is crazy.

But yeah, AMD has been the better option for a while now, and with Intel deciding to self immolate, seems like they will be for a bit longer.


What case are you going with for that? I ditched mine when the 3000 series cards came out because managing heat and those giant cards in an 11L case was a pain in the ass, but I want Steam in my living room now.

Well....I ended up with the corsair 2000D. I know it's not an amazing case and it's probably too large to be classed as a true sff build, but I wanted a large gpu and also a 360mm radiator. I have the perfect place and it will just sit next to my fireplace (just an aesthetic fireplace) on a special shelf so it will be next to my large oled.

Just need a GPU right now. I can't pull the trigger on a 5090 right now. That price is making it hard for me to accept it.

Might hold out for a 5080 super which is on the way. LULZ

 

[Loomy]

I know it's not an amazing case and it's probably too large to be classed as a true sff build, but I wanted a large gpu and also a 360mm radiator.

That's the tricky balance.

I like Thorzone designs, and I'm waiting to see what the cost is on this collab. They're making it to fit ATX boards(like the Corsair) and a bunch of other design decisions to try and bring the cost down.

 

[DenchDeckard]

That's the tricky balance.

I like Thorzone designs, and I'm waiting to see what the cost is on this collab. They're making it to fit ATX boards(like the Corsair) and a bunch of other design decisions to try and bring the cost down.

Wow, you have my attention! I'll be looking out for this as I still don't have a gpu so I'll be waiting anyway!

Thx dude, for sharing

 

[Braag]

I recently upgraded to 9800X3D from Intel. My first ever AMD CPU in 18 years of PC gaming.
Highly recommend it.

 

[dispensergoinup]

So, is my 14700k a time bomb right now? Should I start shopping AMD soon?

What should my panic level be?

PC mainly used for indie gaming all the way up to Cyberpunk / RDR2.

MSI Z790 board.

 

[Draugoth]

So, is my 14700k a time bomb right now? Should I start shopping AMD soon?

What should my panic level be?

PC mainly used for indie gaming all the way up to Cyberpunk / RDR2.

MSI Z790 board.

By my experience, if you did not expedience weird crashes on games, unreal engine compilation or vrms you are fine.

 

[AFBT88]

I undervolted my 14600K the moment i installed in my PC. Before the whole degredation stuff. Thankfully, it's been rock solid for over a year, but it never pulls more than 150w and 1.19v at my settings, so it may have alot to do with it.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

 

[Silver Wattle]

The 9950X3D or the 9800X3D are pretty good.

 

[Draugoth]

I undervolted my 14600K the moment i installed in my PC. Before the whole degredation stuff. Thankfully, it's been rock solid for over a year, but it never pulls more than 150w and 1.19v at my settings, so it may have alot to do with it.

First sing is Unreal Engine games crashing after shader compilation after Nvidia drivers which is how it was discovered.

As long as they are withon Intel Parameters they should be fine, but Intel doesnt want to go foward with RMA even after i showed them proof.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Get a 9800X3D and tell Intel to fuck themselves

If you're lucky there will be a class action lawsuit at some point and maybe you can recover some of the money you spent

 

[Syphon Filter]

AMD master race

 

[Thebonehead]

Well....I ended up with the corsair 2000D. I know it's not an amazing case and it's probably too large to be classed as a true sff build, but I wanted a large gpu and also a 360mm radiator. I have the perfect place and it will just sit next to my fireplace (just an aesthetic fireplace) on a special shelf so it will be next to my large oled.

Just need a GPU right now. I can't pull the trigger on a 5090 right now. That price is making it hard for me to accept it.

Might hold out for a 5080 super which is on the way. LULZ

My Palit 5090 is massive and weighs a ton. Not sure anything other than a FE would fit in a SFF case.

 

[Randall365]

I was ALWAYS Intel - but after my 12th Gen I7, I knew I had to jump to AMD. The 13th and 14th gens are just overclocked 12th gens - with more and more power fed into them. Great for Intel's profits no doubt, but something has to give.

You may of course get lucky and get a good one that can take it, but that's not really right when people are paying hundreds for these chips.

 

[zeomax]

I dont think my 14700k performs as expected. I think windows scheduler pushes heavy loads to e cores sometimes. It leads to inconsistent performance and stuttering sometimes.

In the bios you can activate the support for legacy games. After that you can press the scroll lock key on the keyboard and Windows will deactivate all e-cores. Press it again and the e-cores are back online.

 

[Draugoth]

I was ALWAYS Intel - but after my 12th Gen I7, I knew I had to jump to AMD. The 13th and 14th gens are just overclocked 12th gens - with more and more power fed into them. Great for Intel's profits no doubt, but something has to give.

You may of course get lucky and get a good one that can take it, but that's not really right when people are paying hundreds for these chips.

Seems the microcode only delays degradation. Long-term stability of this cpu depends on the silicon quality.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

AMD CPU has had my back and balls this entire time. I am going AMD in my next build, with a possible compromise with AMD GPU as well. Fuck Nvidia.

 

[MayauMiao]

Behold, my first AMD Ryzen for new 2025 PC build.

 

[Dice]

I am currently saving for my next all-AMD build. They never let me down but I have been screwed by weird shit on Intel 3 times. Same for nvidia weird driver shit while AMD was always fine. Maybe not the most super ultra cutting edge, but always more reliable, predictable, and manageable.