My GF let a salesman into our home

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The income post practically makes this a parody of Mad Men, sans the Jon Hamm and January Jones to stare at.

CrankyJay said:
Do you let her do heroin or anything else that is potentially dangerous and then talk about it afterwards?
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"Let her?" This hypothetical female can inject whatever she wants into her body. It is her body, after all. You can show horror, disapproval, plead that she doesn't do it, but control?


FYI to the boys in this thread, stop pretending women are one salesperson away from getting harmed. Contrary to popular belief, victims of violence are disproportionately men. You should be more worried about your own ass.
 
marrec said:
I let strangers into my house all the time to talk with them about things. It's a thing adults do.
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It's what stupid adults do.

Letting a stranger you don't know into your house allows you to be victimized, be it right then and there or later on as you've just allowed someone free access to scope your entry points, your home layout, assess the value of your assets, and your security.
 
fuzzyreactor said:
Its called common sense. She is small woman that how no way to protect herself and i care about her. Its called protecting your love ones. Just like i hope you wouldnt think it is okay for your GF to hitchhike as her way of transportation
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ohhhh..oh. Oh. I see. Ok. Well. Um...hahahahhaahhaah


In all fairness if I could take your overt reaction at face value and say this was all about protection, I might be able to give a little bit of creedence. But I do seem to suspect that this is more about control of the house and your surprise to see a man standing in your foyer, and your feelings of violation at that than anything. You need to deal with that first. Also, your little woman does need to be careful, but you totally fucked up that conversation when you flew off the handle. Retry and try not to be so patronizing. Unless you live under Sharia law, it's not that unreasonable for her to have a gentleman over to carry out transactions and the like when you're not home. If this is really about that, or perhaps some other thoughts you're not mentioning, perhaps you need to address those trust issues.
 
Angry Fork said:
Naive adults sure.

You never let a stranger into your house (unless it's part of something professional that was planned like an installation of something), where did you grow up?
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Uh I have let strangers in quite a couple of times. I'm not a big strong guy or anything but I don't exactly live in fear of anyone coming to my apartment to hurt or steal from me, hell when I lived with my parents we never even locked the house door, that was in a smaller town too though.
 
3N16MA said:
Why are you trying to knock this man's hustle? Dude is just trying to to put food on the table, times are tough and he was just doing his job. Thought he had a sale and you stole it from him.
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Yeah I would've been pretty pissed off as well.

"I was about to make a sale to this girl but then her jerk boyfriend shut me down... Looks like I'll have to sell crack again..."
 
Soru said:
All day everyday, I go from door to door. After about 4 hours of this, very little people would even take 5 minutes to listen to what I have to say. Then there she is, the one person I would find who would like to engage in conversation with me. I spend 20 minutes explaining why our charity needed as much help as possible financially and ask her if she'd help us out. She isn't sure so as per needed by my company I remind her about everything I've said and tell her that signing up for us would make one hell of an impact on our goal (which is, no word of a lie). She agrees.
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I find it hard to say no to people, particularly strangers. I don't know if you'd call what I do agreeing, more like "passively accepting the situation". I don't like talking to strange people knocking on my door, and I usually don't like to buy things. But salespeople tend to be very pushy, and I have a hard time telling people to back off when they keep trying to convince me. Its why people keep calling my house to do surveys. People like my boyfriend are a godsend. It has nothing to do with him being protective of me and everything to do with him seeing me in an uncomfortable situation and getting me out of it. I assume that's what happened in the OP's case.
 
outunderthestars said:
What's it like to live in such fear?
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He lives in reality. You must live in the land of unicorns and gumdrop trees where a magical fairy sprinkles pixie dust on everything and everybody lives happily ever after.
 
Atrus said:
It's what stupid adults do.

Letting a stranger you don't know into your house allows you to be victimized, be it right then and there or later on as you've just allowed someone free access to scope your entry points, your home layout, assess the value of your assets, and your security.
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Jesus Christ some people in this thread a paranoid as fuuuuck.

I guess I just live in a good neighborhood, with trustworthy crackheads that sell magazines that I WANT to pay 55 dollars for.
 
Angry Fork said:
Who said anything about fear? Everyone is taught never to let strangers into your house, you talk with them at the front door.
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What's the difference between that and taking 2 steps backwards to talk inside? Besides 20-30°C.
 
I can't believe the white knights in this thread. If this nonsense is okay just because she needs to "be an equal" and because banks have fraud protection, please go ahead and post your bank account number and routing number.

It's a scenario that could have ended in rape, murder, robbery, or identity theft. It has fuck-all to do with him being a big strong man and her being a dumb, weak, defenseless woman. I don't let strangers into my house either.

Soru said:
Before I do so, I want to make her feel comfortable by doing so. I let her know that donations are made by a bank to bank transfer to avoid government taxing. All we ask for is the account number and sort code of your bank account (not your credit card number or your security verification number) and that all we can do with that info is set up a standing order or put money into your account.
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If you are working for a legitimate charity, why do you have to do all this nonsense to sidestep taxation?

I'm sorry that your job sucked, but if it takes 45 minutes and a ton of personal financial information just to get one donator then someone somewhere has set you up for failure.
 
Koodo said:
"Let her?" This hypothetical female can inject whatever she wants into her body. It is her body, after all. You can show horror, disapproval, plead that she doesn't do it, but control?
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Well, that's the difference between you and me. If my significant other was about to inject what I knew was a dangerous substance into her body, you're sure as shit I will grab the needle and toss it away. Call that control if you want, but if you'd sit there and watch her do it and not attempt to intervene then you have some issues in the name of internet righteousness.
 
Angry Fork said:
Letting someone know they made a stupid decision is not misogyny.

You gots to be trollin right now, hardcore.


Who said anything about fear? Everyone is taught never to let strangers into your house, you talk with them at the front door.

Am I taking crazy pills or do all of you guys live in some suburb of Canada?
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No, you have it right. I live in a suburb in Oklahoma and I don't let strangers in my house.

OP reacted correctly, if you're about to by $55 in magazines you don't want from a guy you don't know who you invited in then you deserve to be treated like a child.
 
marrec said:
Jesus Christ some people in this thread a paranoid as fuuuuck.

I guess I just live in a good neighborhood, with trustworthy crackheads that sell magazines that I WANT to pay 55 dollars for.
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Not everyone has had a bubblegum life and is naive as you
 
Slavik81 said:
What's the difference between that and taking 2 steps backwards to talk inside? Besides 20-30°C.
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The difference is that then they are not in your house.

"Hey strange guy hanging out on my street that's been shadily trying to sell shit, you want to come in and hang?"
 
border said:
I can't believe the white knights in this thread. If this nonsense is okay just because she needs to "be an equal" and because banks have fraud protection, please go ahead and post your bank account number and routing number.

It's a scenario that could have ended in rape, murder, robbery, or identity theft. It has fuck-all to do with him being a big strong man and her being a dumb, weak, defenseless woman. I don't let strangers into my house either.


If you are working for a legitimate charity, why do you have to do all this nonsense to sidestep taxation?

I'm sorry that your job sucked, but if it takes 45 minutes and a ton of personal financial information just to get one donator then someone somewhere has set you up for failure.
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Okay, seriously, no more trolling.

It's not about what happened, it's about the OPs reaction to what happened.

This is the exact kind of stealth misogyny that I've talked about in multiple other threads. 70% of the people in this thread have no problem with the OP trying to control his GF.
 
CrankyJay said:
Well you got me there. Seems like a lot of work though, especially on those in poorer neighborhoods where they might not have a lot of money to begin with.
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It's a lot easier than people think. Plus its simply a numbers game, as there is usually a team of 3 or 4 people that split up and do this at once.

It's the fastest growing crime in the world, and I think off the top of my head, last year was something like 15 billion dollars in fraudulent purchases.
 
Koodo said:
"Let her?" This hypothetical female can inject whatever she wants into her body. It is her body, after all. You can show horror, disapproval, plead that she doesn't do it, but control?
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this is the most stupid post i have ever read on a message board.
 
Shick Brithouse said:
He lives in reality. You must live in the land of unicorns and gumdrop trees where a magical fairy sprinkles pixie dust on everything and everybody lives happily ever after.
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I live in a town where I know my neighbors, don't lock my doors, and have trust in my community.
 
I've been taught since I was a kid not to let strangers into my house. As an adult I still don't let strangers into my house. My girlfriend doesn't let strangers into the house. My future kids won't let strangers into the house. Fuck gender, don't let strangers into your house without good reason period.
 
Slavik81 said:
What's the difference between that and taking 2 steps backwards to talk inside? Besides 20-30°C.
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Witnesses.

Once a stranger is inside your house and nobody can see what happens I'd argue you're about 10 times less safe than you were on your porch.
 
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fuzzyreactor said:
Guess you missed the part where i said she didnt even want to buy it but was afraid to say no.

Also consider i support 80% of our living
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Harold?

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jk...but seriously, I feel for you man......don't take this the wrong way, but at least she is just "girlfriend" status for now. Look at this experience as another moment where you can look back and see if you do want to spend your life with her. Don't let these other folks troll you. You shouldn't have to explain yourself to her about why you were mad, it should be obvious.

but also, if you know she should know better......then, maybe she is up to no good. Like you said, it is not the best neighborhood. She should know better than letting another man (who is a stranger) enter the household, while she is by herself. Especially if she knows you'd have a problem with it. Look out for your own well-being.
 
marrec said:
Okay, seriously, no more trolling.

It's not about what happened, it's about the OPs reaction to what happened.

This is the exact kind of stealth misogyny that I've talked about in multiple other threads. 70% of the people in this thread have no problem with the OP trying to control his GF.
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Because 70% understand im not trying to control her, im trying to protect her.
 
border said:
If you are working for a legitimate charity, why do you have to do all this nonsense to sidestep taxation?

I'm sorry that your job sucked, but if it takes 45 minutes and a ton of personal financial information just to get one donator then someone somewhere has set you up for failure.
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Depending on the method of donation, it can actually be taxed which means less money goes to the charity.
 
marrec said:
Jesus Christ some people in this thread a paranoid as fuuuuck.

I guess I just live in a good neighborhood, with trustworthy crackheads that sell magazines that I WANT to pay 55 dollars for.
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I wish I knew where you lived.

I'd knock on your door. Like an adult.

According to you, I'd be let in and we'd have some sort of discussion. Like adults.

Then I'd shit on your floor. Like an adult.
 
in agreement with the OP. i trust my girlfriend not to let fucking strangers into our home (and I would assume OP trusted his to do the same before he left the house this morning as well) but if i came back to that situation i'd seriously have a "what the fuck were you thinking?" talk with her.


fuzzyreactor said:
Because 70% understand im not trying to control her, im trying to protect her.
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i get it OP. i often have to say "i trust my girlfriend. the problem is i don't trust anyone else."
 
NGAMER9 said:
The difference is that then they are not in your house.

"Hey strange guy hanging out on my street that's been shadily trying to sell shit, you want to come in and hang?"
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So? They can stab you and walk right in.

And hell, if you're not home they can just smash a window in the back of your house and enter without your invitation.
 
Koodo said:
The income post practically makes this a parody of Mad Men, sans the Jon Hamm and January Jones to stare at.


"Let her?" This hypothetical female can inject whatever she wants into her body. It is her body, after all. You can show horror, disapproval, plead that she doesn't do it, but control?


FYI to the boys in this thread, stop pretending women are one salesperson away from getting harmed. Contrary to popular belief, victims of violence are disproportionately men. You should be more worried about your own ass.
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Dude you're stupid. Using your logic that a person can do whatever they want to their own body, I guess people who attempt suicide shouldn't be put on anti-depressants and given counseling. There is a threshold of freedom you see, little child, where you can't just do whatever you want and where society has to help and sometimes control what you do to make sure that you don't hurt society as a whole. You seem to believe that no rules and the whole, "It's none of your business" model should work all the time regardless of what the action is. But the truth is that that is not true in the slightest bit. Can a person get tattoos? yes, of course. Can a person inject Krokodil into their bodies? No. That shit is not right for any person, even if you want them to have "freedom". Don't disguise your posts with pseudo-feminist bs and actually realize the reality of the situation. A person who loves his gf doesn't want her to be hurt and to have his own home, which he shares with her, to be ruined by some salesman.
 
marrec said:
Okay, seriously, no more trolling.

It's not about what happened, it's about the OPs reaction to what happened.

This is the exact kind of stealth misogyny that I've talked about in multiple other threads. 70% of the people in this thread have no problem with the OP trying to control his GF.
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I'll give you that he treated her like a child but you have to admit he had a legitimate concern, especially considering she admitted she was afraid to say no. Afraid of what? To hurt his feelings, or afraid he might get angry and harm her? He went about it the wrong way, but you definitely shit on him this thread. =)
 
outunderthestars said:
I live in a town where I know my neighbors, don't lock my doors, and have trust in my community.
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I still don't know where the OP lives so I can't tell if his reaction may be justified, but you pretty much just invalidated yours.
 
WoodenLung said:
Uh I have let strangers in quite a couple of times. I'm not a big strong guy or anything but I don't exactly live in fear of anyone coming to my apartment to hurt or steal from me, hell when I lived with my parents we never even locked the house door, that was in a smaller town too though.
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Yeah well, Ill say this. Not letting strangers in your house is pretty fucking common place in some areas. Ill just leave it at that. It might be fine where you came up, but I don't know a single child that grew up where I did (south side of Chicago) whose parents didn't teach them that simple little rule. It carries into adulthood, even though I'm a good long LONG way from a Chicago project now, thank god.

If I don't know you, but you want to come into my 4 walls, you had better have a fucking good reason if you even want me to consider it. Because I can listen and comprehend a sales pitch, or an offer to donate to a charity juuuuuuuust fine with you standing on our porch. I'm not going to suddenly hear you better if you are sitting on my couch. Say your piece and be on your way. If you don't like it, start paying my mortgage and your vote will matter.
 
Gouty said:
I wish I knew where you lived.

I'd knock on your door. Like an adult.

According to you, I'd be let in and we'd have some sort of discussion. Like adults.

Then I'd shit on your floor. Like an adult.
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Er...

That's not what adults do at all.
 
Gouty said:
I wish I knew where you lived.

I'd knock on your door. Like an adult.

According to you, I'd be let in and we'd have some sort of discussion. Like adults.

Then I'd shit on your floor. Like an adult.
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The other day my dog took a shit on my floor. Also consider i support 100% of its living
 
marrec said:
Jesus Christ some people in this thread a paranoid as fuuuuck.

I guess I just live in a good neighborhood, with trustworthy crackheads that sell magazines that I WANT to pay 55 dollars for.
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You're just ignorant and that may be the result of low population density. Most people living in high density areas know to take proper and reasonable precautions when they run into people they do not meet.

I'm guessing you don't lock your doors either? If so, then why so paranoid? The only difference between the two is you being right there while a stranger occupies your home and your presence can be rendered meaningless if the stranger is prepared.
 
outunderthestars said:
I live in a town where I know my neighbors, don't lock my doors, and have trust in my community.
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Not everyone lives in your dream world. I grew up in an area where houses near us were robbed nearly every week, there were constantly helicopters looking for criminals flying over my house at night and there were crack dealers holding regular meetings near my house.

So, no I'm not going to let some strangers into my house. I know what can fucking happen.
 
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