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[whatsinaname]

Can't really hate on scalpers. I just assume I've been priced out.

What I do dislike is the these types of companies. Especially 3 and 4.

1) Incompetent companies who can't gauge initial demand. (somewhat understandable)

2) Incompetent companies who can't look at the secondary market and do re-issues. (still somewhat understandable if it is a small company)

3) Companies who use this as a business model to drive up sell through across the whole range.

4) Companies who have reasons for limited quantities but can't seem to figure out a distribution system that feels fair.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Scalpers make the world go round, unless you are petty and inexperienced.

It's usually a sign to grow up for most.

All makes sense now you pizza thief haha.

I've never bought anything from a scalper never wanted anything that bad. Well, anything I would get like right away or wait a bit for a price drop.

 

[quesalupa]

I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

You basically said the Republican motto.

i.e "If those immigrants will work for 0.50, well than what the hell am I doing wrong"
Video games are obviously way less important than this example though. Just seeing parallels

 

[Flame Lord]

You're really going on this tirade over fucking $30?

 

[Like the hat?]

Op I'll sell you my ps4 amazon fallout 4 ce preorder at cost. PM me.

I have two preorders because I couldn't risk not getting it but I'd rather help someone out. I planned to just return the amazon one anyway as long as my best buy order went through.

 

[BkMogul]

This is the way things have gone with hot ticket items for years. I'm certainly not hating on the person who takes advantage and makes a profit and I'm and certainly not crying for the person who decides to spend 2 or 3X more over retail for said item.

 

[Persona7]

Only 30 bucks? scalping seems like more trouble than it is worth

 

[dity]

You're really going on this tirade over fucking $30?

It's video games! Serious!

 

[BronsonLee]

You basically said the Republican motto.

i.e "If those immigrants will work for 0.50, we'll than what the hell am I doing wrong"
Video games are obviously way less important than this example though. Just seeing parallels

Without derailing it this too much, no. If anything, it's more libertarian than anything. It's the general basis for capitalism.

I feel like I should also point out how astoundingly disrespectful comparing what I said to that statement is.

 

[Sanjuro]

All makes sense now you pizza thief haha.

I've never bought anything from a scalper never wanted anything that bad. Well, anything I would get like right away or wait a bit for a price drop.

It all depends on the situation!

There have been PLENTY of times, where I have a ticket work $100-200 face value or so, and I sell for $20. There have been scalpers where I buy that ticket for $20. There have been scalpers I buy that ticket for $400!

It depends on what it is worth, and the scalper has no merit on what you should pay.

 

[KarmaCow]

Scum that only make things worse for everyone else. Fuck em.

 

[riotous]

In reality, you are wrong. How do scalpers inflate how difficult an item is to get? If the item was easy to get, why are they scalping it? This makes no sense.

They remove product from the retail market.. which is set up for convenience and consumer protection. They then list the item somewhere at an inflated price; generally offering less convenience and consumer protection than the retail market.

This can cause all kinds of things; for an event like a concert or convention it simply makes it more expensive and you are at greater risk of being ripped off. For the retail sector it can artificially make demand appear higher than it is because something sells out right away, when it would have taken a while more naturally. More product might be ordered, only to never be purcahsed because the scalping actually failed.. and those items were then returned by scalpers.

Scalpers generally operate outside of all kinds of regulation as well as taxation.

Etc.,etc.etc.etc.

 

[LOLDSFAN]

The concept of supply and demand doesn't really bother me.

 

[quesalupa]

You're really going on this tirade over fucking $30?

I'm tired and cranky. Trust me guys, I know this is super trivial. That's why I'm ranting on a trivial forum.

 

[xRaizen]

I sold my Black Ops 3 Juggernog Edition for $500 when it was at it's height of popularity.

 

[Two Words]

People that don't mind scalpels or scalp better not bitch about greedy companies.

 

[Sanjuro]

They remove product from the retail market.. which is set up for convenience and consumer protection. They then list the item somewhere at an inflated price; generally offering less convenience and consumer protection than the retail market.

This can cause all kinds of things; for an event like a concert or convention it simply makes it more expensive and you are at greater risk of being ripped off. For the retail sector it can artificially make demand appear higher than it is because something sells out right away, when it would have taken a while more naturally. More product might be ordered, only to never be purcahsed because the scalping actually failed.. and those items were then returned by scalpers.

Scalpers generally operate outside of all kinds of regulation as well as taxation.

Etc.,etc.etc.etc.

This would make sense if the retail market provided a competitive value. It doesn't.

What else you got?

 

[Sigma722]

Sucks. I could afford to go to every WS home game, if I could get it for cost. At scalp levels, it will be one game, maaaaaaybe 2.

 

[Professor Renegade]

It's infuriating to say the least. The Wii U GameCube controller adapter is a perfect example of that bullshit.

 

[riotous]

This would make sense if the retail market provided a competitive value. It doesn't.

You are full of shit and not worth arguing with. Enjoy your maturity.

 

[Goldenroad]

LOL @ $20 more. I saw tickets for the Grateful Dead at Solider Field going, on the way to the shows, for $1000 a pop and they were going for upwards of 10x that on Stubhub a few months before the shows. Scalpers are disgusting and can get fucked.

 

[Banjo Tango]

I hear you OP. They're also strangely compelled to defend their shitty behavior.

Seattle used to have some anti-scalping laws, it was much easier to get tickets to just about anything... of course, the Seahawks also sucked back then

 

[Redd]

I had the same problem trying to buy Majora's Mask 3ds. I refused to pay mark up prices and waited a month or so until they got restocked. I hate scalpers but that's Capitalism and the free market at work so either keep waiting or pay the mark up Op.

 

[Sanjuro]

You are full of shit and not worth arguing with. Enjoy your maturity.

I'm not.

Why do you believe that a retail market should dictate what something is worth, despite purchasing it from other outlets?

Enjoy your ignorance?

 

[Gragen]

I'm tired and cranky. Trust me guys, I know this is super trivial. That's why I'm ranting on a trivial forum.

Wtf man. Go masturbate the irritation away then.

 

[dity]

They remove product from the retail market.. which is set up for convenience and consumer protection. They then list the item somewhere at an inflated price; generally offering less convenience and consumer protection than the retail market.

This can cause all kinds of things; for an event like a concert or convention it simply makes it more expensive and you are at greater risk of being ripped off. For the retail sector it can artificially make demand appear higher than it is because something sells out right away, when it would have taken a while more naturally. More product might be ordered, only to never be purcahsed because the scalping actually failed.. and those items were then returned by scalpers.

Scalpers generally operate outside of all kinds of regulation as well as taxation.

Etc.,etc.etc.etc.

If it weren't for that scalper that concert or game or whatever would be sold out and there'd be none left and your non-attentive slow ass wouldn't have a chance at enjoying either. I mean it's sold out that's why you'd be even looking at scalpers anyway yeah? lol

 

[Makki]

The concept of supply and demand doesn't really bother me.

Its artificial demand really

 

[riotous]

I'm not.

Why do you believe that a retail market should dictate what something is worth, despite purchasing it from other outlets?

Enjoy your ignorance?

You hand waved my entire post away rudely with no logic to show for it. Like I said, I'm done arguing with you.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I can't wait for the day when the one item per person rule can be fully enforced. Maybe we should require using social security numbers when shopping online.

 

[Sanjuro]

You hand waved my entire post away rudely with no logic to show for it. Like I said, I'm done arguing with you.

You aren't arguing. You are just ignorant on reality giving you feedback.

If it weren't for that scalper that concert or game or whatever would be sold out and there'd be none left and your non-attentive slow ass wouldn't have a chance at enjoying either. I mean it's sold out that's why you'd be even looking at scalpers anyway yeah? lol

That's the truth.

I've underpaid to go to ball games more than anyone could imagine. I bought a $150 ticket this year for $8. Yes. $8. Thanks scalpers!

At the same time? I went to a game for $210 years ago. It was a game that meant more to me, and I valued the experience going.

 

[VeryGooster]

One thing that kills me are the eBayers who will throw anything remotely appearing limited up at twice the price without gauging the availability of the product. I saw those Fallout Xbox One controllers up at twice the price while GameStop still had them in stock.

Won't lie though. I made a decent penny off amiibo before Nintendo started getting better with stock (though it was like one extra one and not a whole case of Rosalinas or something).

 

[Defuser]

Thats what happens with limited items of anything. You either wait for more to be release or buy it early before the others. Don't hate the people hate the game.

Did people complain about this back in the middle ages where some commodities are scarced?

 

[ZeroX03]

What I always find interesting about scalping is how poor most people are at doing it. You spent 12 hours waiting outside the store for a few amiibo? That $60 profit is totally worth 12 hours of time when you could just well, work.

The time and effort to scalp anything other than digital or easily transferable goods rarely seems worth it to me.

 

[GavinGT]

I thought someone was scalping Fallout Boy tickets for a second.

 

[jwk94]

The concept of supply and demand doesn't really bother me.

Same. It's quick money and has helped me pay for Christmas.

 

[BronsonLee]

I thought someone was scalping Fallout Boy tickets for a second.

Nah, ticket prices for them always go down

Spoiler

down, in an earlier round

 

[ahoyhoy]

Thats what happens with limited items of anything. You either wait for more to be release or buy it early before the others. Don't hate the people hate the game.

Did people complain about this back in the middle ages where some commodities are scarced?

That's how wealth was easily made: speculation and hoarding of goods and selling at exorbitant prices.

It's the weird gray area of capitalism that never really sat well with me. I suppose as long as it's just limited to luxury goods I'm okay with it.

 

[PG2G]

If it weren't for that scalper that concert or game or whatever would be sold out and there'd be none left and your non-attentive slow ass wouldn't have a chance at enjoying either. I mean it's sold out that's why you'd be even looking at scalpers anyway yeah? lol

If there weren't scalpers, then X number of people who actually wanted them item would have gotten it before it sold out.

I understand that its nice to have a secondary market, but when people start hoarding items just to flip its pretty damn destructive

 

[NCR Redslayer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bAvpItQ7mE

Don't hate.

Too accurate during Black Friday.

 

[marrec]

OMG I just sold a Pipboy edition for a hefty markup.

 

[Beefy]

Only $120? Scalpers are selling the Pipboy Edition on Amazon UK for £270+.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Scalpers are scum.

I just wish people would stop buying overpriced stuff from them and the problem would go away.

 

[dity]

If there weren't scalpers, then X number of people who actually wanted them item would have gotten it before it sold out.

I understand that its nice to have a secondary market, but when people start hoarding items just to flip its pretty damn destructive

Those like 7 people who might have got one ain't your lazy ass looking on eBay for a copy 12 days after the game sold out.

 

[sixteen-bit]

can't hate the hustle

 

[way more]

You hand waved my entire post away rudely with no logic to show for it. Like I said, I'm done arguing with you.

The logic is self-evident when it comes to The Market. You seem to be dismissing the core concept that people pay what something is worth to them. The fundamentals are what you are missing.

 

[New002]

Don't hate the player, hate the game

Can't one hate both the player AND the game??

I don't know why, but I'm always surprised to see that so many people share this sentiment when it comes to scalpers.

Scalpers buying up hot ticket items suck, but as long as there are people out there that are willing to buy from scalpers this will never not be a thing. Just gotta deal with it.

 

[zugzug]

Don't hate the player, hate the game

thats not really a game thats being a soulless human.

 

[PG2G]

Those like 7 people who might have got one ain't your lazy ass looking on eBay for a copy 12 days after the game sold out.

I've seen people walk away with like 10% of all stock (non gaming items) by showing up with a bunch of people to buy stuff for them. People literally hire people as mules for shit.

 

[quesalupa]

I feel like I should also point out how astoundingly disrespectful comparing what I said to that statement is.

I apologize, I'm almost certain that you are not a horrible person like that. I tend to find similarities to extreme examples that don't directly apply to the thing I'm talking about. Incoming in 3..2..

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

So I shouldn't get mad at military dictators because their system works for them?

OMG I just sold a Pipboy edition for a hefty markup.

Shame on you. *slaps hand*

 

[riotous]

If it weren't for that scalper that concert or game or whatever would be sold out and there'd be none left and your non-attentive slow ass wouldn't have a chance at enjoying either. I mean it's sold out that's why you'd be even looking at scalpers anyway yeah? lol

You simply can't say this as a fact; like.. mathematically. The scalpers represent an unknown amount of fake day 1 / second 1 customers.

That same event might sell out eventually, but might take days or weeks in a natural retail -> customer market.

Or maybe hours instead of literally seconds.