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[Sanjuro]

Something something Amiibo.



Are you saying scalpers can't cause an item to sell out any faster than normal purchasers in all cases?

In some cases they can. I've never seen a scenario where they are the primary proponent of why they have sold out.

I've slept overnight with cat-sized rats in my face for scalpers to buy more tickets than expected. In the end, I still waited out too for my chance. What they choose to do with those tickets are their choice, and their choice alone. They may profit or loose money. It's a gamble.

 

[riotous]

You are done arguing with me because you are wrong.

If you spend $1,000 or $400 on those things, it's because you value them. If you valued them more...you would have had them for less...possibly. There is the large possibility you could have gotten them for less from the same outlet. Both scenarios you didn't give a flying fuck about, now look...you are here.

You literally have one point: willingness to pay is all that matters. That DOES NOT address all the issues I brought up whatsoever. Beyond that you are being incredibly disengenous and relying and false statements; acting as if every item you've scalped was simply something not wanted in the region you bought it. Utter bullshit.

 

[CambriaRising]

Assholes denying they are doing asshole things by acting even more like assholes. Astounding.

 

[Vilam]

Sold a launch PS3 for $1500, it was great!

 

[riotous]

What the hell now you're admitting to benefiting from the aspects of scalping while also saying it's not beneficial?

Because I'm at a very high percentile of income; just because something benefits people with lots of disposable income doesn't mean it's beneficial to the market.

 

[Sanjuro]

I was going to sell shit in this thread too. I obtained a PSP Final Fantasy 7 UMD holder. I sold one for $80, but never sold the other one. Same with a Ninja Scroll XBOX scroll. I threw the secondaries out.

I still have one Ninja Scroll apparently. $1!

You literally have one point: willingness to pay is all that matters. That DOES NOT address all the issues I brought up whatsoever. Beyond that you are being incredibly disengenous and relying and false statements; acting as if every item you've scalped was simply something not wanted in the region you bought it. Utter bullshit.

You LITERALLY have no points. What are you offended by? Some things are sold for less, some equal, some more. What is your issue here? If you hate scalpers, you only hate the latter.

 

[quesalupa]

Assholes denying they are doing asshole things by acting even more like assholes. Astounding.

Ahaa. I was kinda regretting making this thread until this post lol. Unless I'm one of the assholes, which would be awkward.

 

[GhostWriter24]

Capitalism: The Thread

 

[dity]

Because I'm at a very high percentile of income; just because something benefits people with lots of disposable income doesn't mean it's beneficial to the market.

The market's fine. The scalper bought the item, enriched the economy, whatever. Then someone with a lot of income or impatience or passion who can't wait for more or was too slow for a ticket buys from the scalper.

Unless it's years later or an event that was sold out lickty split it's probably going to be restocked at regular retail price anyway.

Huh? If a guy wants to collect something without the sole purpose of selling it, I find nothing wrong with them doing whatever the hell they want with it.

You just said doing so was "pretty crappy" though. What?

 

[riotous]

You LITERALLY have no points. What are you offended by? . What is your issue here?

This is some clownshoe ass shit; you addressed nothing in two long posts of mine full of points (and you quite literally do have a singular, one, 1 uno point)

Knew I was completely wasting my time.

 

[Sanjuro]

This is some clownshoe ass shit; you addressed nothing in two long posts of mine full of points.

I did. You just have no real world sensibilities. I'm sorry you overpaid for...something? You still are avoiding the notion that things are less or below equal.

Knew I was completely wasting my time.

You did waste your time! Your argument is basically, "I hate McGriddles. I got a McMuffin!"

 

[BronsonLee]

Yo, Sanjuro/riotous, ya'll need to tranquilo

 

[Sanjuro]

Yo, Sanjuro/riotous, ya'll need to tranquilo

Next season, you're buying a $30 ticket from me and getting a Fenway Frank, friend!

Spoiler

I'm destroying your bank account!

 

[BronsonLee]

Next season, you're buying a $30 ticket from me and getting a Fenway Frank, friend!

Boston sucks

 

[Sanjuro]

Boston sucks

New York Socks.

 

[dallow_bg]

Something something Nintendo underestimated regional demand. If the USA was stocked like Australia you guys would be fine, we have scalpers here too but we also have like 50 amiibo on display per store (or something ridiculous like that).

Im just saying, they would get 1 or 2 items only in some cases.
I know NoA sucks.

In some cases they can. I've never seen a scenario where they are the primary proponent of why they have sold out.

I've slept overnight with cat-sized rats in my face for scalpers to buy more tickets than expected. In the end, I still waited out too for my chance. What they choose to do with those tickets are their choice, and their choice alone. They may profit or loose money. It's a gamble.

Hmm, don't agree. Especially regarding tickets.
I used to work at a place that was an official Ticketmaster location and depending on how popular the event was, the ticket reseller (who has a retail location of their own and online presence) would hire as much as 15 people to wait in line overnight at various locations including mine.

That's when I learned how ticket reselling really worked.

 

[way more]

Huh? If a guy wants to collect something without the sole purpose of selling it, I find nothing wrong with them doing whatever the hell they want with it.

Even in cases like this?


Collectors Are Stripping Japan’s Rare-Game Paradise Bare
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1114087

 

[quesalupa]

You just said doing so was "pretty crappy" though. What?

This is the situation that I would find crappy: "This game might be super duper rare in 20 years. Better hold on to it do I can future scalp it."

What I would not be mad at is if somebody bought something that they actually wanted, and later sold it because the value happened to increase.

I guess you could argument the semantics of what is scalping, but I get more upset by the attitude and not the action. Like if somebody scalped a pip boy to feed themselves, I wouldn't be mad.

 

[dity]

Im just saying, they would get 1 or 2 items only in some cases.
I know NoA sucks.

Employees gonna buy 'em before scalpers or the regular folk even touch them I bet.

This is the situation that I would find crappy: "This game might be super duper rare in 20 years. Better hold on to it do I can future scalp it."

What I would not be mad at is if somebody bought something that they actually wanted, and later sold it because the value happened to increase.

I guess you could argument the semantics of what is scalping, but I get more upset by the attitude and not the action. Like if somebody scalped a pip boy to feed themselves, I wouldn't be mad.

Collectors end up selling their collection eventually anyway so it's inevitably going to go up in value. Even if they buy something just cos they think it'll be rare eventually.

 

[Sanjuro]

Hmm, don't agree. Especially regarding tickets.
I used to work at a place that was an official Ticketmaster location and depending on how popular the event was, the ticket reseller (who has a retail location of their own and online presence) would hire as much as 15 people to wait in line overnight at various locations including mine.

That's when I learned how ticket reselling really worked.

It depends where.

StubHub gets shit, but I've only obtained over face value maybe 15% of the time?

From individuals? I've sold tickets for SOME value more often than not. They are like ATM machines. They are more stubborn, but I've still gotten values. They aren't about to let their investment go to waste.

ALSO! Depends on the area. NY was by far more accepting. Boston loved it. Texas didn't know how to. All different experiences.

 

[Verendus]

I'm going to buy all the water in the world, and then hold on to it until my demands are met.

 

[Sanjuro]

I'm going to buy all the water in the world, and then hold on to it until my demands are met.

Don't let anyone to close to drown you in it.

MEDIOCRE.

 

[womp]

remember all those scalpers who got stuck with wiiu's nobody wanted? that was fun.

I remember this very vividly when PS3 launched as well, and were retailing for $499. I was waiting for a sandwich at Wawa when I overheard this woman nearby on her cell phone visibly pissed at someone because she was 'sitting' on five 'Playstation 3' that no one wanted.

It was glorious. Heavens knows what kind of markup she had on them.

 

[Anon67]

OP, I know how you feel. People who scalp are pretty douchy and selfish.

 

[FStop7]

Is... is that Michael Pachter?

 

[Sanjuro]

OP, I know how you feel. People who scalp are pretty douchy and selfish.

I sold a Nintendo Wii for $1000. In addition, wrestling show tickets and cocaine.

I'm sorry Nintendo Wii.

 

[dity]

I'm going to buy all the water in the world, and then hold on to it until my demands are met.

Well I stole all the rain clouds before they even arrived at the water store.

 

[pje122]

Damn, I thought this was supposed to be a left-wing forum.

 

[BronsonLee]

I'm going to buy all the water in the world, and then hold on to it until my demands are met.

So like Sandland? And/or Mad Max?

 

[Northeastmonk]

This just happened locally:

The board of the Omaha Metropolitan Entertainment & Convention Authority has voted to reimburse some Taylor Swift fans who ended up with fraudulent tickets.

"If I was the ticket buyer, I would think it was a legit sale," MECA CEO and President Roger Dixon said. "And it wasn't."

A former MECA employee is under investigation and accused of printing duplicate tickets and selling them.

Monday, the board voted unanimously to reimburse victims in this unique situation.

"I mean, it's not a good thing at all to have an employee who you thought you trusted and you can't," Dixon said. "That's not a good feeling."

Dixon said because the invalid tickets were printed on CenturyLink Center cardstock, the board has an obligation to customers. He recommended that the MECA board take action.

"(I recommend) that you authorize staff to reimburse these individuals the face value of the tickets," Dixon said in the board meeting.

The tickets will be reimbursed at face value. Each of the 207 people who purchased them will get $120 back. In total, it will cost MECA about $25,000.

Dixon says new security policies will help ensure this never happens again.

"You figure out what you've done and you try to strengthen so it can't happen again."

From now on, each ticket will be linked to one employee's code.

"Basically, it comes down to nothing happens in the box office with printing tickets, unless the box office management team signs off on it," Dixon said.

CenturyLink Center officials will contact each person who will receive a reimbursement. Omaha police told KETV NewsWatch 7 that they're still interviewing victims and hope to have new details next week.

http://www.ketv.com/news/meca-will-...-fans-who-ended-up-with-fake-tickets/35922232

The consumer gets fooled. A lot of us are wise and can spot such things. I've only been scammed once on eBay with Batman Arkham Asylum PC edition. They sent me the box, but the disc had glued sticker of the game underneath a blank DVD-R.

The hike in CE/LE/Consoles is awful. I hate seeing some of the items on eBay for stuff like this. Hopefully someone can get my cancelled Pip Boy Edition.

If this was 1 in 10,000 or even 20,000 like the 20th Anniversary PS4's then maybe, but I honestly don't know if I believe them about "can't make anymore Pip Boy Editions".

Why would they go back to being in stock for pre-order?

 

[Vilam]

remember all those scalpers who got stuck with wiiu's nobody wanted? that was fun.

Ignorants who were poor at predicting supply and demand. I steered miles clear of that thing.

I remember this very vividly when PS3 launched as well, and were retailing for $499. I was waiting for a sandwich at Wawa when I overheard this woman nearby on her cell phone visibly pissed at someone because she was 'sitting' on five 'Playstation 3' that no one wanted.

It was glorious. Heavens knows what kind of markup she had on them.

What people don't understand is that to maximize profits you need to flip consoles immediately. Every single time you see people talking about holding onto them until people get desperate at Christmas time, and then a few months later you hear their sob stories about how they're selling at cost of not taking a slight loss. I always try and warn them, but they get greedy and refuse to listen.

 

[dity]

This just happened locally:



http://www.ketv.com/news/meca-will-...-fans-who-ended-up-with-fake-tickets/35922232

The consumer gets fooled. A lot of us are wise and can spot such things. I've only been scammed once on eBay with Batman Arkham Asylum PC edition. They sent me the box, but the disc had glued sticker of the game underneath a blank DVD-R.

Scalpers and bootleggers are a different breed.

 

[Unison]

I love scalpers... I just got $190 Janet Jackson tickets for $35 from some. Sometimes things work out due to them, and they take a hit. Market economics work both ways.

 

[Lord Thrappleper The 49th]

This thread has taught me how to potentially make money fast!

Anybody want a copy of Ultimate Edition Star Wars Battlefront? They've run out already and its SUPER rare, i'll sell it for £200.

 

[rjinaz]

Scalpers and bootleggers are a different breed.

Yeah it's really not comparable. That's like calling somebody that pirates games a bank robber.

Scammers and bootleggers are stealing or using fraud. Scalpers are reselling items at a higher price.

 

[way more]

I'm going to buy all the water in the world, and then hold on to it until my demands are met.

He may have been immoral himself but just because you own the supply of Aqua Cola doesn't mean you are inherently evil. He even warns the proles not to get addicted.

 

[Unison]

He may have been immoral himself but just because you own the supply of Aqua Cola doesn't mean you are inherently evil.

Immortan. Just because he's not a Communist doesn't make him bad.

 

[Sanjuro]

I once had all the water in the world.

I sold that Poland Spring for a E.T. cartridge.

 

[Northeastmonk]

Scalpers and bootleggers are a different breed.

My idea of a scalper is the guy at the football game who has one hand in the air and the other in his pocket.

They're both scumbags.

You're probably right, but they share one thing in common: They're both out to make a profit on the helpless.

 

[ChosenPredator]

people are going to make bank off those pip boys probably could sell it higher if they wanted

 

[Unison]

You don't need it to survive.

Doesn't it really come back to this at a certain point?

Be mad at the manufacturer or show promoter first and foremost.

If you wanted it badly enough, you should have gotten in line earlier.

 

[Sanjuro]

Doesn't it really come back to this at a certain point?

Be mad at the manufacturer or show promoter first and foremost.

If you wanted it badly enough, you should have gotten in line earlier.

I tried to get in line, but the scalper line was just to large.

Said nobody ever...but salty.

 

[rjinaz]

people are going to make bank off those pip boys probably could sell it higher if they wanted

Yeah. Not much though. The price is hovering around $190. I paid about $130 after taxes for mine. ebay and paypal fees would cost me about $22. Shipping maybe $8. So you're looking at about a profit of $30. Unless you sell on craigslist and then maybe it's closer to $50.

Not really worth it at the moment and the price will likely drop more once people get theirs in and start flooding ebay with them.

 

[Koppai]

I did it with a Zelda 3DS, but not really, people bidded it up on eBay. I listed it at cost. :S

But yeah I don't usually go out of my way to scalp shit. I work at Best Buy and I see customers coming in trying to buy all the Blu Ray Steelbooks for like every release. Then this old lady trying to scalp Rock Band and stuff, she didn't want to buy it since the box was a little bit dinged. She comes in like every week. o-O;

The other day, this crazy guy took all the amiibo and put them in his basket, we told him it was only 1 of each character per person. I think he was slightly disturbed or something. Who knew amiibo would bring in the weirdos <_>; He said "I wish you would have told me that before I put them all in my basket." Umm dude, you know what you were doing so don't even give us that shit lol.

We have enforced a policy of 1 of each character per customer for a while now due to people scalping the figures.

 

[CadetMahoney]

Do any stores/onlines have a "any reason" refund policy that can be used as "insurance".

I think Gamestop has this?

If so that would be an "enabler" for scalpers?

 

[quesalupa]

A.Be mad at the manufacturer or show promoter first and foremost.

B. If you wanted it badly enough, you should have gotten in line earlier.

A. Why should I be more mad at the people who actually did something to get their money?
B. Oh my God I'm so tired of hearing this. Do we live in a world where it's impossible for scalpers to also line up early? Yes most people aren't going to be scalpers but still at least of couple of genuine buyers are going to be SOL.

 

[Sanjuro]

I did it with a Zelda 3DS, but not really, people bidded it up on eBay. I listed it at cost. :S

But yeah I don't usually go out of my way to scalp shit. I work at Best Buy and I see customers coming in trying to buy all the Blu Ray Steelbooks for like every release. Then this old lady trying to scalp Rock Band and stuff, she didn't want to buy it since the box was a little bit dinged. She comes in like every week. o-O;

The other day, this crazy guy took all the amiibo and put them in his basket, we told him it was only 1 of each character per person. I think he was slightly disturbed or something. Who knew amiibo would bring in the weirdos <_>; He said "I wish you would have told me that before I put them all in my basket." Umm dude, you know what you were doing so don't even give us that shit lol.

I bought the Zelda 3DS. Played the game, but returned it to retail.

I was told I was a fucking idiot to do so.

 

[Unison]

A. Why should I be more mad at the people who actually did something to get their money?
B. Oh my God I'm so tired of hearing this. Do we live in a world where it's impossible for scalpers to also line up early? Yes most people aren't going to be scalpers but still at least of couple of genuine buyers are going to be SOL.

Can't you just hire a scalper to stand in line for you or something?

 

[dity]

My idea of a scalper is the guy at the football game who has one hand in the air and the other in his pocket.

They're both scumbags.

You're probably right, but they share one thing in common: They're both out to make a profit on the helpless.

Bootleggers scam the helpless, scalpers are for the impatient and/or wealthy.

 

[Koppai]

I bought the Zelda 3DS. Played the game, but returned it to retail.

I was told I was a fucking idiot to do so.

For a while we got a few restocks of it and then it completely stopped. Now you have the new one but it's GameStop exclusive. I barely even use mine now. I did that region hack on my Japanese 3DS cuz I want to parade it off with the cover plates lmao.