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My Hero Academia Anime |OT| Go Beyond! PLUS ULTRA! (No Manga spoilers!)

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Trojita

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Nah, I disagree. That wouldn't be anti-stereotypical, that would just be stereotypical.
Bakugo is an interesting character, because he's a little shit with a an inflated ego the size of a mountain, but has the talent to back it up and everyone knows he's a little shit, but he still is determined to tread the path of a hero.



Don't. The only thing Phantom World has going for are pretty visuals and maybe 2 or 3 good episodes, otherwise it's just bland and pandering trash.

First episode is worth it for Titty Limbo, seriously one of the most ridiculous fanservice mechanisms to ever exist.
 
Every time someone makes a Naruto comparison I feel a little bit of my soul shrivel up and wither away.

Crocodile hit the nail on the head, Bakugou is a little shit but he still wants to be a hero. I mean fuck's sake, look at cops in this country. It's not like being a shitbag precludes someone from working in a generally beneficial workplace. And not to spoil anything but people have already seen that the adult heroes aren't all rays and sunshine and some are in it for fame or money, so get prepared to see more of that come up.
 

Quonny

Member
Jesus Christ.

The music during the climax is so freaking hype. It's. So. Good.

The climax in this episode was one of my favorite shonen moments in the past few years right next to
Soma challenging Shinomiya
(Shokugeki no Soma spoilers).
 
Probably one of the worst episodes from this anime season.

All the crying and irrational hate is beyond obnoxious at this point. Why couldn't this show just be good and have them kicking ass instead.
 

SalvaPot

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Probably one of the worst episodes from this anime season.

All the crying and irrational hate is beyond obnoxious at this point. Why couldn't this show just be good and have them kicking ass instead.

I guess this show is not for you, but that's fine, I'm sorry to hear you didn't like it.
 

Trojita

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Anyone here want to rescind their complaints about Deku being named "A smart shonen protagonist" after this episode?
 
Every time someone makes a Naruto comparison I feel a little bit of my soul shrivel up and wither away.

Crocodile hit the nail on the head, Bakugou is a little shit but he still wants to be a hero. I mean fuck's sake, look at cops in this country. It's not like being a shitbag precludes someone from working in a generally beneficial workplace. And not to spoil anything but people have already seen that the adult heroes aren't all rays and sunshine and some are in it for fame or money, so get prepared to see more of that come up.

Bakugou is an even worse character than Sasuke.
 
Bakugou reminds me of that Guy from Shaman King. Ren I think his name was? I need to ask this to people who have read the manga:
Does Bakugou become a "Villian"?
 

Permanently A

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I was able to gloss over Bakugou's ranting when I read the manga, but here I can't ignore the fact that he's just a complete and utter asshole. I mean, why are you even mad at Deku? Because he was concerned for your well-being after you slipped and fell into a fucking river? l m a o
 
I was able to gloss over Bakugou's ranting when I read the manga, but here I can't ignore the fact that he's just a complete and utter asshole. I mean, why are you even mad at Deku? Because he was concerned for your well-being after you slipped and fell into a fucking river? l m a o
It's definitely overdone but they're basically showing everyone feeding his ego and pride and it has built up to a point where it's so fragile that the thought of someone who he considered lesser equaling or surpassing him is something he can't handle.
 

Trojita

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I feel like at some point they are going to retcon it that Bakugou actually liked spending time as kids with Deku.

Stop looking at me with those eyes Deku.

The shipping material writes itself.
 

kurahador

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I was able to gloss over Bakugou's ranting when I read the manga, but here I can't ignore the fact that he's just a complete and utter asshole. I mean, why are you even mad at Deku? Because he was concerned for your well-being after you slipped and fell into a fucking river? l m a o

People who defended Bakugou concerns me because now I'm doubtful about how good this series turns out later on.
His placement in the story and characterization is as annoying as Sasuke really.
 
It's definitely overdone but they're basically showing everyone feeding his ego and pride and it has built up to a point where it's so fragile that the thought of someone who he considered lesser equaling or surpassing him is something he can't handle.

He was a friggin 4 year old when he fell into that river. If your ego is that big at that age to the point you shut down from someone trying to help you, you're a narcissistic sociopath. It doesn't matter how much external influence was involved.
 

Trojita

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Bakugou LITERALLY thinks Deku has been trolling him this whole time. He thinks Deku has been hiding his quirk for the sole purpose of making fun of himself (Bakugou).
 

cntr

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Is being a bad person so irreconcilable with being not being an evil person?

People who defended Bakugou concerns me because now I'm doubtful about how good this series turns out later on.

His placement in the story and characterization is as annoying as Sasuke really.
People are defending him because the comparison is silly, he's far more like Vegeta than Sasuke.

plus MHA readers are used to absurd comparisons with Naruto when the series is not like it at all, it gets annoying
 

Reset

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Bakugou is cool, far more interesting than the cry baby main character. No wonder Bakugou is always so pissed off at him, Deku is hella annoying and a dumbass (this is the guy who wanted to get into a hero school with no powers and then goes to attack a villain with a book bag), plus now this dude followed him to the same high(?)school.

Woah, Vegeta is trash. Maybe if Bakugou got his ass beat against Deku in the fight, then yeah he'd be all talk just like Vegeta. But so far he seems to be able to back up his talk. Oh and the series does seem heavily inspired by Naruto, just last episode we got a Kakashi knock off lol
 
He was a friggin 4 year old when he fell into that river. If your ego is that big at that age to the point you shut down from someone trying to help you, you're a narcissistic sociopath. It doesn't matter how much external influence was involved.
I totally agree it's overdone to the max but that's still the idea they're trying to get across ;P
 

Jintor

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Bakugou is cool, far more interesting than the cry baby main character. No wonder Bakugou is always so pissed off at him, Deku is hella annoying and a dumbass (this is the guy who wanted to get into a hero school with no powers and then goes to attack a villain with a book bag), plus now this dude followed him to the same high(?)school.

this is pretty much what baku sees + "Deku was hiding his power literally to piss me off because I'm that egocentric"
 
Is being a bad person so irreconcilable with being not being an evil person?

No, but I don't think it's a tall order to ask the story treat said character that way. Unless of course it's a straight comedy or the entire cast consist of assholes. Plenty of series have pulled it off well. This one doesn't, which is a shame because it pulls off every other supporting character.

And Vegeta really isn't the same. The guy started off as a villain and was a major threat for an entire arc. Sure, it's a bit weird people forgave him so easily after that (something I honestly did have a bit of a problem with), but DB/Z isn't a school setting and his alliance with the main cast was more based on the fact he was needed and not that they thought he was a good person until much later when he had completely turned over a new leaf. And even then, the guy still goes to hell when he dies.

Edit: And honestly, how Vegeta is treated by the story is kind of shit too. Almost every conflict in Z is indirectly and directly a result of his douchebaggery and need to fight strong people.

The thing that makes it different is Goku isn't much better and there really isn't as big of a gap in character writing quality in DBZ as there in in MHA. Everyone is kind of shitty in different ways.
 

cntr

Banned
Woah, Vegeta is trash. Maybe if Bakugou got his ass beat against Deku in the fight, then yeah he'd be all talk just like Vegeta. But so far he seems to be able to back up his talk. Oh and the series does seem heavily inspired by Naruto, just last episode we got a Kakashi knock off lol
Well, Bakugou is like a Vegeta-style character who can back up their words.

And MHA is inspired by a lot of things, Aizawa being a
better
Kakashi doesn't mean the series overall is based on Naruto.

The point of Bakugou is he's an exaggeration of a real life personality, someone who's actually skilled and ruined his life by becoming arrogant and fragile about it. He's taking the coming of age journey like Deku is, but in the opposite direction. It would miss the point if he was like Sasuke and just straight jumped into being a villain.

...to be honest, I think that realness is what makes Bakugou so unacceptable to some people. People don't want to hear that bullies are redeemable people if they got bullied.

No, but I don't think it's a tall order to ask the story treat said character that way.
And that's absurd. For one, that's exactly what this episode/set of chapters did. Two, he's not evil.
 

Permanently A

Junior Member
Bakugou LITERALLY thinks Deku has been trolling him this whole time. He thinks Deku has been hiding his quirk for the sole purpose of making fun of himself (Bakugou).

yeah but bakugou was an asshole to deku the entire time before deku got a quirk

literally being an massive shit for no reason. sorry your ego is so fucking fragile at 4 years old you can't handle someone actually caring for your safety and more than a decade later you're still so pissed off that deku tried to help you that you try to goad him into killing himself
 
I feel like at some point they are going to retcon it that Bakugou actually liked spending time as kids with Deku..

Why would they do that when thats what these flashbacks have been showing us. If he didn't why would he let Midoriya follow him around everywhere and be his shadow and sing praises to him. I think part of Bakugou needs Midoriya in his life to keep him grounded in reality, and also I think his time with him in the past enabled him to feel some compassion for Midoriya's struggles, why else would he be so focused on him in the current times, be aware of his weaknesses in the fight this episode, and a few episodes actually go to Midoriya's home to attempt to express gratitude in his own special way?
 

Reset

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yeah but bakugou was an asshole to deku the entire time before deku got a quirk
Why does Deku even follow Bakugou and his crew anyway when he was getting mocked by them anyway, it never seemed like he was forced to. Deku is just dumb lol

BkzUzi is the worst. That's his quirk. Terrible opinions.

Why are you such a bully, you hurt my feelings. :[[

Well, Bakugou is like a Vegeta-style character who can back up their words.
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So Sasuke? =o

It would miss the point if he was like Sasuke and just straight jumped into being a villain.
Well Sasuke didn't jump straight into being a villain, he had his reasons.
 

.JayZii

Banned
Bakugou is cool, far more interesting than the cry baby main character. No wonder Bakugou is always so pissed off at him, Deku is hella annoying and a dumbass (this is the guy who wanted to get into a hero school with no powers and then goes to attack a villain with a book bag), plus now this dude followed him to the same high(?)school.
Seems like kind of a narcissistic asshole who's been bullying the main character since they were 4 just because he could, though. Who cares if Deku went to the same school as him? He wasn't following him there, he wanted to go to the best school for his own reasons. Why does the world have to revolve around him?

I can agree with "interesting", but from what I've seen so far, I wouldn't call him "cool" at all. Unless you're just talking about his power.
 

Moaradin

Member
I don't see why Bakugo is so unthinkable for some people. You have fan favorite characters like Vegeta who literally killed hundreds of innocent people. What makes Bakugo so unredeemable? And it's not like the manga/anime doesn't recognize him as a piece of shit.
 

Jintor

Member
actually, are there any shonen out there where the main hero is an aggressive irritable jackass asshole? i'm pretty used to happy-go-lucky, overconfidence, analytical/timid etc, but just straight up i-fucking-hate-the-world doesn't pop out at me.

I don't really agree with the idea that the story/other characters don't treat Bakugou like the asshole he is. everyone in his class thinks he's a loose cannon one fuse short of blowing up the world. they also know that he wants to be a hero.

they don't really know much about him being a jackass bully for his entire life because deku and baku didn't bother telling anyone, so expecting them to act on that info is silly
 
...to be honest, I think that realness is what makes Bakugou so unacceptable to some people. People don't want to hear that bullies are redeemable people if they got bullied.

People usually have to do something to redeem themselves to be considered redeemable. There have been plenty of redeemed bullies in anime. Great Teacher Onizuka does a great job at it, and it's not like those characters lose who they after being redeemed.

And that's absurd. For one, that's exactly what this episode/set of chapters did. Two, he's not evil.

I'm actually more talking about what happens after and the lack of consequences for Bakugou's actions both before and after these episodes as people continue to look at him with admiration. Hell, the episode makes it a point to show All Might as being irresponsible.
 
I don't see why Bakugo is so unthinkable for some people. You have fan favorite characters like Vegeta who literally killed hundreds of innocent people. What makes Bakugo so unredeemable? And it's not like the manga/anime doesn't recognize him as a piece of shit.
It's just that his complete and utter fury toward deku doesn't seem earned. Like this dude is so mad you'd think deku raped his pet puppy when he was a child. Like he is beyond furious and can barely speak or churn out full sentences.

If it wasn't so overdone I think people would accept it a lot easier but oh well. I see what they're getting at so I forgive the execution.
 
I'm not sure how you could say this with a straight face considering this episode and the fact that you read the manga.

I'm not the only one that feels that way among people caught up with the manga. The guy is incredibly divisive and I've posted before in length how I feel the narrative still isn't treating him like it should be.
 

kurahador

Member
Why are you such a bully, you hurt my feelings. :[[

Trojita is cool, far more interesting poster than BkzUzi. No wonder Trojita is always so pissed off at him, BkzUzi is hella annoying and a dumbass (this is the guy who posted bunch of terrible opinions everywhere), plus now this dude followed him to the same forum.
 

Cerium

Member
Bakugou reminds me of that Guy from Shaman King. Ren I think his name was? I need to ask this to people who have read the manga:
Does Bakugou become a "Villian"?

The current manga arc deals with the villains kidnapping Bakugou and trying to make him one of them. He refuses and resists pretty hard.
 

cntr

Banned
I'm actually more talking about what happens after and the lack of consequences for Bakugou's actions both before and after these episodes as people continue to look at him with admiration. Hell, the episode makes it a point to show All Might as being irresponsible.
Absolutely nobody looks at him with admiration except for his skills. Bakugou ends up with like, 1 friend in the entire class, while every class member admires or becomes friends with Deku.

The teachers follow it up by focusing on Bakugou's attitude as an issue to be solved.

What more do you expect them to do? Shun him? Expel him? The students, including Deku later on, are doing the mature thing, ignoring him.
 
It's just that his complete and utter fury toward deku doesn't seem earned. Like this dude is so mad you'd think deku raped his pet puppy when he was a child. Like he is beyond furious and can barely speak or churn out full sentences.

If it wasn't so overdone I think people would accept it a lot easier but oh well. I see what they're getting at so I forgive the execution.

I agree, Bakugo just feels too over the top with his hatred of Deku. Like he seems literally insane and the school needs to give him a mental evalutation before he's ever allowed to be a hero or even come back to class.
 
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