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My Hero Academia Anime |OT| Go Beyond! PLUS ULTRA! (No Manga spoilers!)

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Bakugou is kind of a fascinating character to me, because I've never really read a shonen with someone like him in it. He's this strange mixture of the standard "asshole bully who looks impressive but gets bodied by the protagonist almost immediately" with someone who's actually, you know, competent. He's a total dickbag, but I can't quite bring myself to outright hate him. He's a little like House for me, in that regard. His growth through the series has been pretty unusual too, but you don't start seeing it until after the point where the anime is going to wrap, so I'll refrain from commenting much on it.
 

cntr

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He doesn't "look up to him" in the sense that he thinks he's a good person to be emulated. He admires him for having everything, skill, confidence, quirk, everything Deku didn't have until now.

I called it "jealousy-admiration" because it's not like normal admiration, there's no precise way to describe it. Bakugou is "admired" for having what Deku wants, not for the person he is.
 
That episode could have been condensed into 10 minutes. All this exposition bullshit and re-showing clips already shown is so fucking annoying. Quality is dipping in this show... fast.
 

HabeeNo

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Deku is so awesome, holy shit TT___TT

I was afraid that the flashbacks would take so much of the episode, but it felt longer than the other episodes lol

And Uraraka is the best girl, no question about it
 

Cerium

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Ya he's Deku's nemesis if you will so.

Bakugou isn't really a villain, the latest manga arc establishes that more clearly than ever. He's the antihero if anything.

Todoroki is the true rival to Midoriya.

It's too early to tell if the final boss is Shigaraki or
All For One
but I'm leaning towards the former.
 
He's just a cunt.

Bakugou? How can anyone say that about a kid. Just look.
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Cornbread78

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Ok, that was a pretty hype ending. I really hate how they keep playing up each episode for that 1 moment they want to focus on, but at the same time, sometimes it's done well and worth the sluggish pace. It was good to see Deku get the best of Kacchan, since he is a piece of shit..... Detroit SMASH motherfucker. The look of defeat..
 

NEO0MJ

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Bakugou? How can anyone say that about a kid. Just look.

I don't usually like arguing with you but I'll bite.

Isn't this the same kid who when he found out Midoriya didn't have a quirk mocked him and felt happy about it? Or how can we forget the time he decided to beat him up when Midoriya stood up for the kid Bakugoi and his gang were bullying? Hell, even when Midoriya only wanted to help him up after he fell into the stream he felt nothing but contempt towards him. Right now this a person who never cared for anyone else in his life and has no ability to feel compassion or love.
 
Bakugou isn't really a villain, the latest manga arc establishes that more clearly than ever. He's the antihero if anything.

Todoroki is the true rival to Midoriya.

It's too early to tell if the final boss is Shigaraki or
All For One
but I'm leaning towards the former.

You should use the Manga OT in Off Topic Community to talk about stuff that hasn't happened yet.

Anyway, this episode was awesome. Bakugou's VA continues to be an absolute beast, and my favourite scenes were done justice.

I'm still confused about the pacing talk considering we're covering exactly 2 chapters an episode. The flashbacks were in the manga as well.
 

Reset

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Bakugou is the best character in the show, he should have been the main character. Deku sounds so whiny and seems like he's crying 90% of the time he's on screen.
 

Ezalc

Member
Grenade kid is just an enormous asshole. I'm guessing there some reason why he has some kind of complex with Deku, but right now he's so fucking insufferable goddamn. What I want to know is what all the other student's powers are.
 
I've been enjoying the show but after how hyped it was on gaf, I can say that I don't enjoy it anymore than most shounen anime I've watched.

I know it's only 7 episodes in but nothing about the show has really wowed me. The ending of this episode was pretty good though.
 

Angel_DvA

Member
Bakugou is the best character in the show, he should have been the main character. Deku sounds so whiny and seems like he's crying 90% of the time he's on screen.

90% of Shonen characters are whiny piece of shit, besides Ichigo, Luffy, saitama etc...
 

ckohler

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I totally adore this show. Episode 7 was fantastic. I'm actually mad there will only be six more episodes. This should have been a full series!
 

kewlmyc

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Then you must have totaly missed his character growth and skipped his dialog, he is not that of an bully anymore. Personaly I quite like him now in the manga

Never said he isn't getting better, but he's still let's his ego get in the way a lot, makes rash decisions, and treats quite a few people like shit.
I would give examples but this isn't the thread for it.
 

hat_hair

Member
I'm still confused about the pacing talk considering we're covering exactly 2 chapters an episode. The flashbacks were in the manga as well.

Even without considering whether or not the pacing was good in the original, manga and anime are different mediums, and what works in one may not work as well in another.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Pacing is really crazy. I was bewildered when the episode literally started with another flashback. There's way too much of this. I get it; the relationship between Deku and Kacchan has been emphasized a ton. I don't need that repeated to me over and over again.
 

Skrams

Member
I forgot a lot of how this fight exactly went, so it was fun to be in the dark for how it exactly went again. I remember Uraraka being a baseball star, but couldn't remember much else.

And goddddd, Bakugou is such a dick and it's greatttttt. He's just so easy to hate and I love it. He's been handed all of his talent on a silver platter and his instincts to fight are just superb. He just wants to strive for the top of the world and if he has to be the dickiest guy along the way, fuck ittttt.

The looks of anguish, anger, slight fear, and every other emotion I can't think of near the end of the fight too. So goooooood.

 

Meffer

Member
I forgot a lot of how this fight exactly went, so it was fun to be in the dark for how it exactly went again. I remember Uraraka being a baseball star, but couldn't remember much else.

And goddddd, Bakugou is such a dick and it's greatttttt. He's just so easy to hate and I love it. He's been handed all of his talent on a silver platter and his instincts to fight are just superb. He just wants to strive for the top of the world and if he has to be the dickiest guy along the way, fuck ittttt.

The looks of anguish, anger, slight fear, and every other emotion I can't think of near the end of the fight too. So goooooood.
I think it's because he realized why Deku was reluctant to use his quirk because he never really saw what happens to Deku when he does.
 
Fight was more drawn out than it should have been, but the direction and soundtrack during the climax was amazing.

Also Bakugou is a shit that should be expelled. I would hope he would be if he actually did kill Deku.

Why the hate for Kacchan? i think he's an awesome villain and his VA does a great job.

This is the problem. He isn't one. He's a rival. He's not just an abrasive arrogant prick like Gary Oak and he's not just an aloof guy that people are impressed with like Sasuke (pre-betrayal). He's a straight up destructive asshole that bullies people to the point of encouraging suicide and (vague manga spoilers)
has grown very little in the near 100 chapters the series has.

If he was a villain, that would be great. Hell, it would be great if he was even acknowledged as one despite being on the good guy's side like Amai Mask from One Punch Man. But nope, the series treats him like an anti-hero and not the bullying psychopath he is.

Bakugou has been the biggest blight on the series that holds it back from greatness.
 

Skrams

Member
I think it's because he realized why Deku was reluctant to use his quirk because he never really saw what happens to Deku when he does.

Yeah, that's a big part of it. I think a part of him is scared of Deku in that instant due to the sheer power of the quirk, a part is still mad due to him "hiding" the quirk from him, and also that this little pebble alongside the road has already seemed to soar up to heights where Kacchan is.
 

MartyStu

Member
Fight was more drawn out than it should have been, but the direction and soundtrack during the climax was amazing.

Also Bakugou is a shit that should be expelled. I would hope he would be if he actually did kill Deku.



This is the problem. He isn't one. He's a rival. He's not just an abrasive arrogant prick like Gary Oak and he's not just an aloof guy that people are impressed with like Sasuke (pre-betrayal). He's a straight up destructive asshole that bullies people to the point of encouraging suicide and has grown very little in the near 100 chapters the series has.

If he was a villain, that would be great. Hell, it would be great if he was even acknowledged as one despite being on the good guy's side like Amai Mask from One Punch Man. But nope, the series treats him like an anti-hero and not the bullying psychopath he is.

Bakugou has been the biggest blight on the series that holds it back from greatness.

I could hug you.

I have avoided watching much of this show mostly because of him. Recently, same for the manga.
 
Bakugou is great i love his complex and personality.

Hes what makes MHA stick out for me and seeing the dynamic between both Deku and Him is wonderful.
 

KonradLaw

Member
Bakugou isn't a villain, he's an antagonist. Often those two are the same, but they don't have to be and here they aren't/

And he's cruicial to making it work as a series to me. Superheroes are defined by big bads. THeir stories absolutely need them to thrive. Since Doku is in school he needs one that fills the exact same purpose without being supervillain and Bakugou is there for that.

The victory from last ep wouldn't be even half as satisfying if it wouldn't involve prevailing over somebody who's as much of a raging dick as Bakugou.
 
Bakugou isn't a villain, he's an antagonist.

He's not that either. Like I said, Amai Mask from OPM is an example of an antagonist that isn't on the villain's side. Bakugou is one of the protagonists and the series acknowledges that. The antagonists of the season haven't shown up yet.
 

Nightbird

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I like that the explanation for Bakugos dickishness is "people kept praising him so much that he started to believe his own hype and now looks down on everyone else"


No attempt to make him relatable, just a real thing.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
God Bakugou is such a piece of shit, like seriously. He's honestly the worst part of the whole series because Deku actually cares about him for seemingly no reason other then the fact that they hung out as young kids.
Deku doesnt really care about him as a friend anymore other than occassionally getting nostalgic and going "man, what happened?"
 

SalvaPot

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Deku doesnt really care about him as a friend anymore other than occassionally getting nostalgic and going "man, what happened?"

Pretty much, Deku's speech to Ochako could be resumed as:

"They guy is fucking talented and ambitious, and I admire that, and we used to be friends, but fuuuuuuuck that guy"
 

Cerium

Member
This is the problem. He isn't one. He's a rival. He's not just an abrasive arrogant prick like Gary Oak and he's not just an aloof guy that people are impressed with like Sasuke (pre-betrayal). He's a straight up destructive asshole that bullies people to the point of encouraging suicide and has grown very little in the near 100 chapters the series has.

I don't think that Bakugou fits neatly into any typical categorization. A rival typically grows in parallel with the main character; we've seen this dynamic with Todoroki, who does in fact fit every trope of a rival, whereas Bakugou often rages about how Midoriya advanced without him. Furthermore, a rival needs to come out on top once in a while to establish himself as a legit threat; again Todoroki has done this while Bakugou hasn't.

Everyone knows that Deku could beat Bakugou in a fight if he had to. Everyone also knows that Todoroki would beat them both if he didn't hold back all the time.

Bakugou is actually portrayed as slipping behind both Todoroki and Midoriya more often than not. He's that kid who used to be the best at everything at his old school before coming to a gifted academy where everyone is a cut above; suddenly he is no longer top dog and he has trouble adjusting. He gets made fun of and he starts falling behind. It's a real thing and it's more complex than your typical anime tropes.

If you view him through that lens he's actually quite interesting.

Todoroki is still the superior character in every way though.
 
I don't think that Bakugou fits neatly into any typical categorization. A rival typically grows in parallel with the main character; we've seen this dynamic with Todoroki, who does in fact fit every trope of a rival, whereas Bakugou often rages about how Midoriya advanced without him. Furthermore, a rival needs to come out on top once in a while to establish himself as a legit threat; again Todoroki has done this while Bakugou hasn't.

Everyone knows that Deku could beat Bakugou in a fight if he had to. Everyone also knows that Todoroki would beat them both if he didn't hold back all the time.

Bakugou is actually portrayed as slipping behind both Todoroki and Midoriya more often than not. He's that kid who used to be the best at everything at his old school before coming to a gifted academy where everyone is a cut above; suddenly he is no longer top dog and he has trouble adjusting. He gets made fun of and he starts falling behind. It's a real thing and it's more complex than your typical anime tropes.

If you view him through that lens he's actually quite interesting.

Todoroki is still the superior character in every way though.

Agreed with everything but the bolded. Most of the class knows that Deku's got some impressive power, but not the skill or control needed to use it effectively. Bakugou really is on another level in terms of sheer combat prowess. He won (or was on the cusp of winning) the fight in this episode, he got outplayed because he lost sight of the actual rules and tried to turn it into a simple brawl.

Also, I find Todoroki a little less interesting.
 

Meffer

Member
Bakugou does not fit in the typical archetypes that has been popular in shonen recently, just to let new people know. He's an powerful, talented asshole that wants to be a hero.
 
Furthermore, a rival needs to come out on top once in a while to establish himself as a legit threat; again Todoroki has done this while Bakugou hasn't.

Everyone knows that Deku could beat Bakugou in a fight if he had to. Everyone also knows that Todoroki would beat them both if he didn't hold back all the time.

Bakugou is actually portrayed as slipping behind both Todoroki and Midoriya more often than not. He's that kid who used to be the best at everything at his old school before coming to a gifted academy where everyone is a cut above; suddenly he is no longer top dog and he has trouble adjusting. He gets made fun of and he starts falling behind. It's a real thing and it's more complex than your typical anime tropes.

If you view him through that lens he's actually quite interesting.

What? There's no indication of any of that.

Manga spoilers.
Bakugou still wins the tournament even if he isn't satisfied with it, still gets more sponsors than everyone except for the guy that's father is the number 2 hero, is still seen as incredibly powerful by his peers even if they acknowledge he's a dick, still seen as valuable by the school to the point of bringing out a large team to rescue him not because it's the right thing to do but because he's talented, and most acknowledge they couldn't beat him in a one on one fight including Deku.

He's not the "falling behind guy" of this series like Vegeta, even if it's pretty clear Deku will surpass him at some point.
 

Cerium

Member
Bakugou still wins the tournament even if he isn't satisfied with it
Uh, the whole point of him not being satisfied with it was the fact that
A) He never got to face Midoriya and B) Todoroki held back against him after going all out to beat Midoriya.
It only cemented the Midoriya-Todoroki rivalry while leaving Bakugou out completely. That's why he was so pissed and that's why it was an empty victory. He knows it and we as the readers know it too. The sponsors don't matter; Jeanist didn't help Bakugou grow at all.

still seen as valuable by the school to the point of bringing out a large team to rescue him not because it's the right thing to do but because he's talented, and most acknowledge they couldn't beat him in a one on one fight including Deku.
Come on, they would do the same for any student in that situation.

He's not the "falling behind guy" of this series like Vegeta, even if it's pretty clear Deku will surpass him at some point.
He is CLEARLY the third wheel behind Todoroki and Midoriya; this is even explicitly said at times. It's why he's so angsty all the time whenever those two are doing their rival thing. I don't know how you could have missed it.
 
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