Remember that Deku was one of the Bakugou's grunts until he tried to defend that one kid. He lived in a reality where him and everyone else viewed Bakugou as a God. Like the random redditor said you can't erase 15 uears of trauma in short time, you cam't erase a decade of treating someone like a God.
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My Hero Academia S2 |OT| This is Going to Stain my Hero Record. No Manga Spoilers!!!
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The way he speaks to others is bullying. He threatens and disrespects everyone. Just because people seem content to brush it off rather than deal with it directly doesn't excuse this behavior. And because we've had almost no insight into any other facet of his personality, if any even exist, this leaves little room to attribute these actions to anything other than the fact that he's a jerk.
This doesn't not add up to an interesting or worthwhile character IMO.
Yea, but that's definitely a standard shounen thing. So can't really take it that seriously
In addition to this, neither will Bakugo magically mellow out and suddenly not be the abrasive dick everyone hates. That said, those calling him one note are being a bit disingenuous.
He seemed pretty respectful of his opponents throughout the tourney. Especially vs Ochaco. He fought her without pulling any punches where most would have been like "oh she's just a girl don't be so mean gosh". And then that mumbling when he won "how was she frail"? That was a breath of fresh air to me. And likewise got mad when people didn't treat him the same way like vs Shoto, because he felt he was getting disrespected as a result.
He's definitely a bully with a ton of flaws as well as being generally overbearing, but he's not so one dimensional that there's nothing more to him, like a Draco Malfoy wannabe or something. I agree with those saying these are slow (if a bit agonizingly slow at times) burns. He has his own unspoken rules and is very very full of himself so he thinks everyone else should be following those unwritten rules as well.
Newtype-001
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His match vs. Ochaco was the only time I thought we got a glimpse of something more, but that's about it.
As I said before, I understand what his archetype can add to a story, but so far this hasn't been an interesting employment of that trope. If that changes, that's great, but all I have to go off of is what we've seen so far and that hasn't instilled much hope for that. Thankfully the show has a lot of other more engaging aspects to focus on.
Isaac Otherworld
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That is absolutely not what happens. Bakugo himself makes it very clear "it won't hit him if he dodges." And Deku had to dodge it.
It's unambiguous. Both All Might and Bakugo make it very clear Bakugo fired a lethal shot at Deku.
This is me personally, and I don't mean to sideline those who are more affected by verbal abuse, but I personally wouldn't care so long as he doesn't actually interfere with my life, and that seems to be the attitude most people in the class are taking with him. No one is threatened by him and few care to have his respect, so it's just a bunch of trash talk that amounts to nothing. Most people just think he's ridiculous, but no one is actually bothered by him.
And like Kenai noted, he has integrity. He won't take a prize he doesn't feel he has earned and is respectful towards opponents who show their mettle. He was certainly more respectful to Ochako than most of the crowd there.
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Verbal abuse is still abuse in my book, and I'm troubled by the idea the writer may see that as a "quirk" of his personality as opposed to a major personality flaw, one that should not to be toleranted by other characters who should know better.
I don't think living by a personal creed, regardless of what it is, necessarily conveys integrity. It's more of a severe sense of delusion that shows he hasn't had to deal with any consequences of his actions. (Though I'm glad his mother chided him for yelling when he was brushing his teeth, a rare moment of humanity.) The world doesn't operate in accordance to any one person's rules, and recognition of that is vital to any sort of personal growth.
I hope his character becomes more nuanced as the series progresses, but I'm not enthused by what we've seen of him so far.
Oddly enough, I don't really feel strongly about Bakugo one way or the other. He doesn't really get on my nerves or makes me feel like he's a bully (aside from everything he did to Deku before U.A.), but he's also not particularly interesting and not really a character I'm that invested in, either. I'm more interested in the things that are happening around him.
I guess I kind of see him sort of as an obstacle for other characters to get around at this point. He's just competent in most ways that matter - competent enough that anyone managing to overtake him means that someone automatically has a badge of "oh yeah, I'm good" slapped on.
Which kind of makes it a shame that no one beat him soundly this time around. Would've been quite satisfying, to say the least. Not that he got any satisfaction out of beating Todoroki the way he did. Still, he's the kind of character that's really there for people to love to hate, I think.
I guess I kind of see him sort of as an obstacle for other characters to get around at this point. He's just competent in most ways that matter - competent enough that anyone managing to overtake him means that someone automatically has a badge of "oh yeah, I'm good" slapped on.
Which kind of makes it a shame that no one beat him soundly this time around. Would've been quite satisfying, to say the least. Not that he got any satisfaction out of beating Todoroki the way he did. Still, he's the kind of character that's really there for people to love to hate, I think.
i think it's ambiguous. That the shot is lethal to anyone without tanking ability, sure, but bakugou says 当たんなきゃ死なねえよ or "If it doesn't hit it won't kill him". the centering of the camera is off-centre, deku doesn't actually dodge so much as simply put up his hands yet the destruction path is a clear line right by deku rather than directly at him. (Just rewatched it).
Baku was aiming to be an asshole, and he even mentions earlier in that fight that he wants to take the fight as far as it can go without it being shut down. Whether you think his emotions got the best of him there and he wanted to kill Deku, there's room for interpretation, but I don't think he was aiming to kill.
still a shitty defence of course like i said earlier. Almost directly analogous to being at a gun range and aiming to miss to spook someone.
Best in being a piece of shit
I saw it coming but i don't like how the tournament finals turned out. Fuck bakugo
Poodlestrike
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Bakugou is a total asshole but a really great character. He's a really excellent depiction of a bully. Dude's got an ego the size of a planet, but real insecurity issues. He's also very nearly as good as he thinks he is. None of the rest of the class gives him more than grudging respect (besides Kirishima), and view his behavior with exasperation at best.
Comparisons to Sasuke are ridiculous, imo. As is calling him one-note.
Comparisons to Sasuke are ridiculous, imo. As is calling him one-note.
Isaac Otherworld
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Bakugo isn't one note. He's a nonsense collection of contradictory character traits.
It's like finding out The Kurgan from Highlander gives away all his income to charity and spends his free time volunteering to help the needy. It's not one note. But it's complete nonsense.
Bakugo could be a good character if he slotted into the world and related to the characters in a way that made sense.
Dedication Through Light
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Very dissapointing episode.This was always one of the more dumbly written moments in HeroAca and in shonen jump in general, Horikoshi as he did in previous moments failed to deliver when it counted most and it just had to be in a really embarassing way. Like why have Todoroki just stand there and take hits, after winning it all in previous moments, this was the chance to provided even more extensive evidence of Todoroki being 2nd strongest in the whole series.
I dont know, probably just showed he ran out of ideas and couldnt come up with creative attacks in the 1 week time frame for a weekly series so he was ready to conclude this arc and run to the next arc.
I dont know, probably just showed he ran out of ideas and couldnt come up with creative attacks in the 1 week time frame for a weekly series so he was ready to conclude this arc and run to the next arc.
Isaac Otherworld
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Bakugo is simultaneously an unstable thoughtless raging berserker and also just as self controlled, intelligent and analytical as Deku.
Bakugo has spent most of his free time on screen using his quirk to harm and torment helpless people but also wants to be the best hero someday and everyone around him thinks he can do it. And no one thinks his hobby of using his quirk to physically torture Deku and other helpless children is troubling or any cause for concern.
bakugou's conception of a hero is different. deku embodies the hero who helps and baku embodies the hero who always wins and defeats the enemy.
i think a lot of people think baku is an unstable jackass, it's just that in hero society (to say nothing of real society) unstable jackassery can really help you get ahead in life
i think a lot of people think baku is an unstable jackass, it's just that in hero society (to say nothing of real society) unstable jackassery can really help you get ahead in life
sleverfunk
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I just caught up with this series.
Holy shit it's fucking hype!!
I really like the 3 man rival going on.
Holy shit it's fucking hype!!
I really like the 3 man rival going on.
Kinda like Endeavor, no?
lvl99 Pixel
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I just get confusing messages from the character. Like his awful personality is sometimes played for laughs, while other times hes genuinely just a twat to the point where I wish he wasnt a thing. Do we get a sob story that justifies everything?
Basically this, he just based when it comes to fighting lol
Omega Kirby
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Bakugou is my favorite character in the show by far, but I expect him to be divisive. He's divisive by design. Plus even taking aside his earlier bullying, he's still an asshole and some people find that endearing and some less so. I imagine that if you were bullied in your childhood that would make him extra hatable as well, so I figure there's no way he's gonna be universally loved. That's okay though, I feel like he's meant to be divisive.
I do love him though because I like his self-confidence and his drive to work hard to prove himself. I also like that when faced with insecurities his go-to reaction is to double down on proving himself and working harder, such as when he lost to Deku in season 1. Since anime characters tend to be either modest or quiet, I actually really appreciate him being self confident and loud. Plus in spite of his prideful attitude he always, always refuses to take shortcuts which is what really sells him for me. He could have taken this win to start bragging and shit, but it wasn't the win he wanted.
But in spite of all that...yeah, I absolutely see how he'd be annoying to a lot of people. What I find endearing they can very easily find annoying and what I find admirable they can find...well, more annoying. Plus it's entirely understandable if you can't look past the bullying shit from earlier.
I do love him though because I like his self-confidence and his drive to work hard to prove himself. I also like that when faced with insecurities his go-to reaction is to double down on proving himself and working harder, such as when he lost to Deku in season 1. Since anime characters tend to be either modest or quiet, I actually really appreciate him being self confident and loud. Plus in spite of his prideful attitude he always, always refuses to take shortcuts which is what really sells him for me. He could have taken this win to start bragging and shit, but it wasn't the win he wanted.
But in spite of all that...yeah, I absolutely see how he'd be annoying to a lot of people. What I find endearing they can very easily find annoying and what I find admirable they can find...well, more annoying. Plus it's entirely understandable if you can't look past the bullying shit from earlier.
NHarmonic.
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Oh please wtf is this.
As it's been said in this thread, a 5 min pep talk from Deku wasn't going to fix years of Todorokis's internal conflict.
I applaud Horikoshi for the outcome of that fight, tbh. Seemed real, specially considering Todoroki's hospital visit, later on the episode. It was just the start for him.
DriftingSpirit
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I won't like, I almost took the bait too.
Ok.
Chaos2Frozen
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There's a very, VERY niche group of people that could put up with Bakugo as a 'friend'.
However if this was an RPG you can bet I'll put him as my starter line-up every single time.
He's a guy you can reliably count on to charge head first into a fight and so there is value in that, especially since you're in the heroing business you can't ignore the fighting aspect of it.
However if this was an RPG you can bet I'll put him as my starter line-up every single time.
He's a guy you can reliably count on to charge head first into a fight and so there is value in that, especially since you're in the heroing business you can't ignore the fighting aspect of it.
Shouta
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Yaoyorozu's powers extends beyond the battlefield as well. A huge component to hero activities is rescue and was the point of the USJ trip before it was interrupted. The applications of her quirk in that respect and the potential application of her quirk in conflict situations perhaps makes her a stand out in the class and just in general. It's not quite apparent when folks have super strength, explosions, or fire and ice though, lol.
I think her proto costume is equally bad, myself. Her main one is pretty pandering but the entire way her powers work kinda make it moot in the end, lol. At least she's not embarrassed by showing skin or anything.
Actually, now that I think about it, most of the female characters have fairly strong quirks and generally more versatile ones than the guys. They can apply their quirks to non-combat situations as well as using them for fighting as well. Ashido's acid can be extremely useful in combat though very dangerous but it also has applications for getting around or saving people like dissolving things for more delicate operations. Kyoka's can be used for search and she showed off the force of her earphone jacks when combined with equipment in the USJ stuff. Ochaco showed how her Zero Gravity can be used in a fight and it has obvious rescue applications like moving rubble and the like around.. Tsuyu's Frog quirk lets her do underwater rescue easily and her physical feats are pretty impressive. This doesn't go into industrial applications either. =o
The only person that turns up short on this front is Hagakure who's quirk is totally useless aside from maybe spy work, lol.
Baku and Todoroki gotta work on rescue applications. Deku too since right now his only use of OfA is giant concussive blasts that wreck him
Todoroki probably could do some good shit with the ice power I think, but he hasn't demonstrated an excess of versatility yet. as of now his powerset mainly seems to be giant outputs
Todoroki probably could do some good shit with the ice power I think, but he hasn't demonstrated an excess of versatility yet. as of now his powerset mainly seems to be giant outputs
His quirk is fantastic as support, defense, restrain, protect and help in emergency situations like fires or floods.
Come to think of it, it is curious (but I suspect largely coincidental) that the female characters' quirks are by and large superior for actual rescue operations than the male characters' quirks - at least at this stage of the series.
It's obvious what direction things are going in, however. I doubt we'll see anyone reaching the level of All Might's "master" outside of the top three.
It's obvious what direction things are going in, however. I doubt we'll see anyone reaching the level of All Might's "master" outside of the top three.
Oddly enough the two Class B female characters we see seem better suited to combat than any of the Class A ones are.
Then you have Mt Lady that is incredible for combat but almost useless for most types of rescue. I mean in the first episode she could do Nothing to help Bakugou because of her size.
Calm waterfall
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Bakugo is one the best characters in this anime. When people say he has developed I wonder if these people understand character development. Character development does not necessarily means a full change in personality. Remember when Bakugo said he wants to be number one on stage. Everyone in class A knew he will say that, but only Deku noticed how he is different than before. The fight with Iraraka also shows advances in his personality.