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My Hero Academia S2 |OT| This is Going to Stain my Hero Record. No Manga Spoilers!!!
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Aaronrules380
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I mean, this isn't a really fair assumption when basically all you've seen him in are combat situations where an all out attack is pretty much the best option
Remember that episode of SpongeBob when Plankton says to Bob to be assertive? He wants SpongeBob to be like Bakugou.
Bakugou is your asshole co-worker who wants to get to the top of the company, does his work constantly, tries to one-up everyone constantly, but still plays within the rules, is unapologetic and doesn't give a single fuck. He also constantly makes fun of your lunch.
And he is as good as he says and that just makes you hate him more.
People like this exist, they are unlikable but they can be awe-inspiring too, in a twisted way. Its also the perfect foil to Deku. Honestly Bakugou would be incredibly cliched as a villain, but as a Rival and aspiring "good guy" he keeps subverting our expectations.
Also lets not forget than in this world been a Hero is a Profession, on the level as a high paying goverment work or acting career. It attracts all kinds of people, even assholes.
Honestly most people who defend Bakugou don't "like" Bakugou, but we love to hate him and how he inspires the rest of the class to try and beat him almost out of spite.
Bakugou is your asshole co-worker who wants to get to the top of the company, does his work constantly, tries to one-up everyone constantly, but still plays within the rules, is unapologetic and doesn't give a single fuck. He also constantly makes fun of your lunch.
And he is as good as he says and that just makes you hate him more.
People like this exist, they are unlikable but they can be awe-inspiring too, in a twisted way. Its also the perfect foil to Deku. Honestly Bakugou would be incredibly cliched as a villain, but as a Rival and aspiring "good guy" he keeps subverting our expectations.
Also lets not forget than in this world been a Hero is a Profession, on the level as a high paying goverment work or acting career. It attracts all kinds of people, even assholes.
Honestly most people who defend Bakugou don't "like" Bakugou, but we love to hate him and how he inspires the rest of the class to try and beat him almost out of spite.
I honestly at the beginning hated Bakugo and then grew to like him likely due to the combination of reading Manga and getting used to him as well as a growing appreciation.
Still don't actually "like" him
Still don't actually "like" him
Yeah but his default strategy is to spam freeze attacks but makes sense when you are that directly powerful
Prodigal Son
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Finally watched this fucking show after hearing lots of good stuff about it. Caught up last week. Man I fucking love it. I feel so at home with its characters and setting.
Well said.
Isaac Otherworld
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Bakugo is the kid that had a temper tantrum and shot a kid at school over what was ultimately nothing.
Nah Bakugo is the kind of kid who would stop short of that because it would impede his progress as being number one.
He did tell a bunch of kids at his old school not to make him look bad.
Isaac Otherworld
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You're deliberately ignoring that he straight up tried to kill Deku during a training exercise and suffered no repercussions for it.
With Bakugo's quirk, its basically impossible that he didn't already seriously maim a kid with his quirk back in his "I'm torturing people for no reason" phase.
You Bakugo stans..
Yeah. Whenever we see him fight it's hard not to understand why he usually seems to run on autopilot. Very few have a quirk that can handle his freeze.
Part of me thinks that the reason he didn't suffer for it is that it would mean that All Might would have to admit it was a mistake to let the match keep going for Deku's sake. He wanted to stop it but he felt that if he did Deku might never get over his fear of Bakugo.
Isaac Otherworld
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Anyway having watched the latest episode it still doesn't make sense that Bakugo is upset about getting first place like this. Literally all of his dialogue is "Don't bother. I'll Kill you. Get out of my way. I'll kill you. Youre' a nobody. I'll kill you. Kill yourself. Or I'll kill you."
Todoroki basically throwing the match is exactly what he tells everyone to do all day every day.
A complete nonsense character. Horribly written.
Todoroki basically throwing the match is exactly what he tells everyone to do all day every day.
A complete nonsense character. Horribly written.
He stated before he wasn't aiming to kill Deku (grevious injury possibly but still) and he worked to master his quirk and the power of his explosions. That being said the constant feed to his ego as well as his dream to be number one like Deku kinda twisted his mind and made him a dark mirror of Deku. A person who wants to be number one in spite of others instead of helping others. Keep in mind while he got the most points for robot defeats he got absolutely 0 rescue points during the admission exam. As he goes along he keeps running into hurdles that knock his ego down a few pegs. Slowly but surely. The latest being Todoroki not acknowledging his strength and unleashing his flames. He couldn't do what Midorya could and it makes his victory ring hollow and Deku's loss resonate more. He went from looking at the class as stepping stones to actual obstacles to reach the top and he is starting to treat them as such and they have been doing likewise.
I'd also like to bring up the USJ arc that capped off the first season. On the way to the USJ the whole class was practically shitting on Bakugo but flocking toward Midorya. They shit on Bakugo for being so abrasive (and rightfully so) but take towards Deku's friendlier and more analytical personality (as most humans would). Part of the reason I like Bakugo so much is because the series knows what to do with him and what situations to push his buttons and trigger character growth. I don't think this makes me (or anyone else) Bakugo stans but I eye of the beholder and all that. He makes a good rival character and is a small part on what makes this show work. I think there is strong character work in this series all around especially for several characters and that is why I enjoy reading it week to week more so than the battles (which can be pretty fun too).
Man I spoke tons on this. Sorry.
In short, Bakugo is an asshole but at least he is one that is interesting to read about unlike others in the genre who shall remain unnamed.
Isaac Otherworld
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He explicitly stated "If he dodges it'll be fine." when firing a lethal attack. I'll take an official translation over a Bakugo apologist's any day. Even All Might stated that was the case.
There is absolutely no way, in this world where petty purse snatchers can expect to get drop kicked by a 50ft woman, that Bakugo wouldn't already be considered the juvenile equivalent of a villain with how eager he is to use his immensely dangerous quirk on defenseless people. It completely breaks my suspension of disbelief every second he's on screen. He's as shittily written as Sasuke. Maybe even more so because Sasuke was tolerable and understandable for the first 25% of his story.
Bakugo is a shitty rival character, a shitty character in general. He could have been an okay villain.
You're taking what he's saying way too literally.
You're focused on the word "kill" when most of the time it's a clear exaggeration of what he actually meant.
I didn't saw him ask Midnight after his battle against Ururaka if she's really dead, or if he can get some additional hits on her unconscious body to make sure she's dead right? And that's even though he asked himself during that fight why she isn't "dead" yet.
Or his battle against Kirishima. You saw him yell out that he should die, and yet we saw no intent to actually kill him. Same with Tokoyami. Or that ball they had to throw in the first season. Are you going to tell me that he was actually trying to murder that ball?
Him saying "die" or "kill" is really an exaggeration, which fits to an exaggerated character like him.
Sure, there has been instances where there was no other way to interpret what he said, but only one of those moments was him actually be himself, and that was in episode one.
During his battle with Izuku, he went a little bit insane due to his superiority complex, and thinking and Izuku has been mocking him during all those years. He wanted to put Izuku back into place.
This may not excuse his behavior, but let's not ignore the circumstances of what happened just to prove a point.
Isaac Otherworld
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You completely misread what I was saying.
All of Bakugo's dialogue is belittling people, demanding that they stand down, telling them to not try and saying how much better he is than everyone. That's seriously 80% of his dialgue.
Todoroki basically throwing the fight is doing exactly Bakugo is demanding from everyone. It's nonsensical that he'd suddenly be upset about it.
What he says is completely different from his intent. Baku's an asshole, but he's an elitist asshole. Top of the class, great quirk and an overachiever, it makes sense that he doesn't want his goal (being number 1) to be marred by Shouta's daddy issues or upstaged by Deku's loss yet it is. We know that, he knows that and that's why he gets so pissed off.
He wants to be rightfully acknowledged as the best, not have it handed to him, otherwise what separates him from all the other 'trash'.
i took that from crunchyroll
if you want to throw around terms like 'bakugou apologist' then i can only conclude you're not here to argue in good faith but just want to throw around names and act superior to people since they don't subscribe to your One True Reading
Later in the episode he literally says he'll "kill" the germs on his teeth as he brushes. That's just how he talks. He's not literally thinking of murdering germs. Bakugo's all about dominating. Jesus...
I feel obligated to defend a gag character...
This is Japanese culture not being represented properly in the localization.
Bakugo is like the ultimate 不器用男 (bukiyou otoko). A man who is bad at expressing himself so he does it in ways that seem mean-spirited, uncaring, or cold even though he actually does. It's just he's just extremely bad at communicating it.
He was a bully as a kid, for sure, but that matured into something more complicated. His confidence and boisterousness is a front to hide his real inability to drop his tough-guy facade, and everyone understands this. No one takes what he says at face value--even Deku, who was a victim of his bullying.
Getting back to this episode, Bakugo is mad at Todoroki because he threw the match, not a single person in this show thinks JUST winning is all Bakugo wants. He just wants to prove himself, like everyone else. To Bakugo, Todoroki giving up is a betrayal, and Todoroki knows that too, but he had bigger things on his mind.
Bakugo and Deku differ in that Bakugo respects strength and a will to be the best, Deku cares about whether or not you reach your potential. It's like Deku raises all of those around him up with him, Bakugo stands from on top and says "get the fuck up here so I can smack you back down." In the end both are positions of respect, it's just their ways of expressing that are different. So even if Bakugo had known what was going on in Todoroki's head, he'd still be mad about the fact Todoroki stopped climbing the mountain.
The thing I like about Hero Academia is that the all the characters in this manga\anime are the stars of their OWN comic. They are strong in their own ways, on their own.
It's not Deku and friends, it's not Luffy and his nakama, or Goku and his weak ass groupies either. It's a show within the MHA universe, starring super heroes like Deku, Bakugo, Todoroki, Uraraka, All Might, Iida, etc.
Yeah definitely and what a perfect voice acting, I don't get the hate for the character.
Dedication Through Light
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How was it real, he was affected so much by midoriya that he wanted to openly get beat up and lose?
I would have preferred more Todoroki & dad momemts than him steeling himself to see his physically abusive mother, that didn't seem real.
Dedication Through Light
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...for-my-hero-academia-anime-2nd-season/.117638
Ugh we get LiSA for the 2nd halfs ed theme...i would have preferred ELISA instead. Hopefully she sings something of a similar theme and tone to Crossing Field.
Ugh we get LiSA for the 2nd halfs ed theme...i would have preferred ELISA instead. Hopefully she sings something of a similar theme and tone to Crossing Field.
Oh, so we're stans now huh
Bounceounce
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Can you elaborate?
Shouta
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On the other hand germs should die!
I like how the villains aren't some kiddy shit, you'd think heroes vs villains wow must be for 12 year olds but the villains in this anime really are villains, they don't joke around and actually want to kill the good guys.
Yep, you're in a slippery slope.
NHarmonic.
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Deku made him hesitate at what he was doing, and that explains how unbalanced Todoroki was when he faced bakugou. Or you wanted him to use full fire and ice, as in everything is okay now? i finally let go of years of grudges and all the shit i was carrying? lol.
Also, no info on new opening? I'm expecting something badass for this new arc.
This is exactly how I feel about him.
CornBurrito
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Have to disagree with the post saying that Bakugo is interesting because he subverts our expectations by not being a villain
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TokenEvilTeammate.
Bakugo is basically Shadow the Hedgehog that doesn't start out as a villain. Except he kind of does, since he basically is a bully to Deku early on in Deku's life.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TokenEvilTeammate.
Bakugo is basically Shadow the Hedgehog that doesn't start out as a villain. Except he kind of does, since he basically is a bully to Deku early on in Deku's life.
Poodlestrike
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Most token evil teammates in the genre are either only nominally evil or go through a fairly rapid reform, or else are outright villains that for some reason stick around. Bakugou's subversion is more in the how than the what - he's given actual psychological depth, but it isn't used as an excuse for his behavior. He's got an enormous ego, but also has the skills to mostly back it up. He loses to the main character but doesn't go through an enormous character change. Etc.
Dedication Through Light
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A scene immediately post tourney end with his dad seeking dialogue with him to inquire what happened and why he didnt use fire this time would have worked wonders, or even just more in that even at home
I think he could have still gone all out somewhat since his motivations at the start was to make it to the top, he didnt even go all out with his ice abilities imo. I would have wanted more of a struggle and many more words and emotions.
Trojita
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My favorite part of Endeavor is that he probably thinks he's a good dad 😂
I give him the power to be the best - he isn't happy
His mother hurts him, I put him - he's mad at me instead
I give him extra attention over his sibilings - he isn't happy
I come to see him at his sports event - he isn't happy
I give him the power to be the best - he isn't happy
His mother hurts him, I put him - he's mad at me instead
I give him extra attention over his sibilings - he isn't happy
I come to see him at his sports event - he isn't happy
Trojita
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There is aloooooooooooot of Yaoi shipping within My Hero Arcademia....Most feature Bakugo.
If he tells someone to screw themselves, would you interpret that as him actually asking them to have sex with themselves?
Honestly, this is just basic human behavior. He's intentionally abrasive to everyone around him so he says generic demeaning stuff, but what has always defined his motive is that he wants to win. And win legitimately.
He saw that Todoroki was capable of more than the fight he gave him, so he doesn't feel he actually won. It doesn't make him virtuous except in the sense that he wants to achieve victory in a fair way. He won't be happy if it's just given to him.
I get the yaoi and the Fujoshi connection.
I just can't understand why it centers on Bakugo.
In every way that kid is an obnoxious cunt.
He just happens to be a hero as well.
I mean it is sort of funny that by every right he should be a villain but isn't.
But you wouldn't want to be in the same room as the guy for more than a couple of seconds.
I just can't understand why it centers on Bakugo.
In every way that kid is an obnoxious cunt.
He just happens to be a hero as well.
I mean it is sort of funny that by every right he should be a villain but isn't.
But you wouldn't want to be in the same room as the guy for more than a couple of seconds.
Shipping never makes sense...never.
Dedication Through Light
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But midoriya won in the poll that ended by the time this tourney arc ended.