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Weird question relating to the recent episode: Is it weird to have expected the Tantibus to be
an actual magic sheep
?
I mean it was in the title.
 
Weird question relating to the recent episode: Is it weird to have expected the Tantibus to be
an actual magic sheep
?
I mean it was in the title.

Well, it was kind of fluffy.
Though yeah, I was disappointed that Tantabus didn't get a substantive form for much of the episode, but it turning into a giant Nightmare Moon cloud was alright.
 

PaulloDEC

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This is such a wonderful show. I am so glad I took a chance on it back in January of 2013. It really is special, and I am going to miss it during the hiatus. But, I now also have something to look forward to, I am so excited about that Lena Hall song.

As for this episode, I loved it. This whole season has been wonderful. Can't wait to see the remaining 13 episodes.

At least we'll have some new Gravity Falls and Steven Universe during the break. That's how I'm making myself feel better about it anyway.

I think they could get away with it considering they've never done it before. Closest thing would be in "Lesson Zero", but that wasn't exactly a big threat for her to clean up.

In retrospect it does seem a shame that such an important event for Luna didn't include Celestia in any way. I hope if they attempt another story like this in the future they put the two together for it.

Oh man, I just remembered they got that horrid rainbow poofy EoF redesign. Also, they really made Luna more of a tragic character with having her whole dream of nightmares every night possibly since she turned good thing. At least now she wont which is grand. Also, considering Scootalo dream of big wings, wondering if the show is ever gonna address her ability to not fly well.
EoF? I assume you mean Rainbow Power, which yeah, still looks mostly ugh. I hope we don't get that in the finale.

I felt "Flight to the Finish" addressed Scootaloo not flying sufficiently well. A story involving her learning for sure that she can't fly would come off as a retread, and her learning that she can fly after all would feel like a cop out. I think the best way to handle her flightlessness in the future would be to give her a cutie mark involving something unrelated to flight (like her athleticism) and have her either not bring up her flying or mention that it doesn't matter whether or not she learns how to fly.

I was about to say the exact same thing. I feel like we've reached a point now where her ability to fly or not fly doesn't matter.
 
EoF? I assume you mean Rainbow Power, which yeah, still looks mostly ugh. I hope we don't get that in the finale.

I felt "Flight to the Finish" addressed Scootaloo not flying sufficiently well. A story involving her learning for sure that she can't fly would come off as a retread, and her learning that she can fly after all would feel like a cop out. I think the best way to handle her flightlessness in the future would be to give her a cutie mark involving something unrelated to flight (like her athleticism) and have her either not bring up her flying or mention that it doesn't matter whether or not she learns how to fly.

Yeah, forgot the EoF got turned into a giant crystal fortress tree thing. They really need to redesign that rainbow power thing where it isnt I dunno something not extremely poofy.

That'd be one neat way to address the whole thing that I'd be down with. It'd be cooler if it was scooter related, I mean her name is Scootaloo.

At least we'll have some new Gravity Falls and Steven Universe during the break. That's how I'm making myself feel better about it anyway.

I think you mean one to two episodes. Disney treats GF like it doesnt exist, what with the scheduling. SB next week seems to be an insane given the amount of spoilers out there from SDCC.
 

PaulloDEC

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I think you mean one to two episodes. Disney treats GF like it doesnt exist, what with the scheduling. SB next week seems to be an insane given the amount of spoilers out there from SDCC.

Well, I did say "some". They've stretched this season so thin at this point that any little scrap is cause for celebration.
 
I haven't watched Gravity Falls. Didn't Rob Renzetti go to Gravity Falls after Pony? I may have to give it a go. It's hard finding episodes for it though
 

brian577

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Lack of Celestia doesn't bother me. We've already gotten more of her in the first 13 episodes than we got all of last season.
 

DrForester

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Lack of Celestia doesn't bother me. We've already gotten more of her in the first 13 episodes than we got all of last season.

Still, she's the only member of the supporting cast without an episode to shine. We get a few CMC episodes a season. Luna has had a few episodes, plus involvement in a few more CMC episodes. Cadance actually gets to help save the day in two big episodes, granted it's after Twilight does all the work, but still it's something. Yes, she's gotten to do a bit more this season than S3 and S4's "deliver exposition and get defeated and captured", but she still constantly gets the short end of the stick, and recently is continuously portrayed as a weak, ineffective, and powerless ruler because she has absolutely no meaningful role in the crisis which affect Equestria. Instead of episode after episode telling and showing us what she CAN'T do, is it so wrong to want one episode that shows us what she CAN do?
 
Still, she's the only member of the supporting cast without an episode to shine. We get a few CMC episodes a season. Luna has had a few episodes, plus involvement in a few more CMC episodes. Cadance actually gets to help save the day in two big episodes, granted it's after Twilight does all the work, but still it's something. Yes, she's gotten to do a bit more this season than S3 and S4's "deliver exposition and get defeated and captured", but she still constantly gets the short end of the stick, and recently is continuously portrayed as a weak, ineffective, and powerless ruler because she has absolutely no meaningful role in the crisis which affect Equestria. Instead of episode after episode telling and showing us what she CAN'T do, is it so wrong to want one episode that shows us what she CAN do?

Preach it brother
 
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Fluttershy's dream put through Google Deep Dream. You can't even see anyone anymore.

This custom figure from two months ago turned out to be surprisingly accurate, though missing the modified harness.

Big Mac's amazing transformation sequence, linked because of size. It is disappointing that they didn't emphasize the addition of his wings more, though. I didn't even notice them first time I watched until he started flying around after the transformation.

This episode's deleted scene is pretty good, though linking because dirty jokes and ponies.

There is a lot of new Luna art, but it's hard to distinguish the episode-based art from the usual Luna art, so I'm not too interested in showcasing that.

And lastly
Those two have some weird interests.
 

PaulloDEC

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An idle thought regarding the finale this year (includes some little bits we know mixed in with speculation, so be warned):

So there's some suggestion that the finale might centre around changing the past/creating an alternate present(s). Who remembers that pretty trading card that got leaked a while back? The card shows Celestia on a throne studded with the Elements of Harmony (in their Mane 6 era shapes); I wonder if this might be a scene from an alternate present/future? Maybe one where the destiny of the Mane 6 was derailed sometime after the first season premiere?

This episode's deleted scene is pretty good, though linking because dirty jokes and ponies.

And lastly

Those two have some weird interests.

These two are great. They're really cutting loose with the left-field Lyra/Bon Bon stuff this year.

You know, I wonder if the hiatus will end on October 10th, marking the 5th year anniversary of the show.

It'd suck if we had to wait that long, but it'd definitely create a nice sense of symmetry.
 
An idle thought regarding the finale this year (includes some little bits we know mixed in with speculation, so be warned):

So there's some suggestion that the finale might centre around changing the past/creating an alternate present(s). Who remembers that pretty trading card that got leaked a while back? The card shows Celestia on a throne studded with the Elements of Harmony (in their Mane 6 era shapes); I wonder if this might be a scene from an alternate present/future? Maybe one where the destiny of the Mane 6 was derailed sometime after the first season premiere?

I think it would be interesting if the finale went in this direction:
After Starlight resets the world, the story doesn't follow Twilight and the others rediscovering their destinies, but rather Starlight, who has taken Twilight's place but discovers that the new world is wrong. It would be even more interesting if Starlight's memories were reset too and she has to discover herself that she's the reason the world is this way, making it sort of like, uh, a certain magical girl movie.

As for Nightmare Star, I'm guessing that it's something like Celestia being forced to confront Nightmare Moon without the Elements of Harmony and deciding to absorb her negative energy into herself. I wasn't a fan of Sombra doing this in the Reflections comic arc, but at least with Nightmare Moon, there were already hints that it was a sort of separate thing from Luna. In this new timeline, Discord will escape as usual, but he won't actually do anything; he still has his memories of the original timeline, unlike everyone else.
 
So, was it just me, or did this episode feel like a follow-up episode to Slice of Life with the fanservice? Flutterbat, Alicorn Big Mac, Flithy Rich, Lyrabon, Beefspike etc?

Not that it was a bad episode, because I LOVED it. Like Amending Fences, Luna's dilemma felt very genuine and heartfelt. Felt really sweet the way things were resolved. Also, I'm not going to read any of that Comic Con stuff, I'll just go into the finale/new episodes as fresh as possible.
 

DrForester

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So, was it just me, or did this episode feel like a follow-up episode to Slice of Life with the fanservice? Flutterbat, Alicorn Big Mac, Flithy Rich, Lyrabon, Beefspike etc?

Not that it was a bad episode, because I LOVED it. Like Amending Fences, Luna's dilemma felt very genuine and heartfelt. Felt really sweet the way things were resolved. Also, I'm not going to read any of that Comic Con stuff, I'll just go into the finale/new episodes as fresh as possible.

I don't think it's as much a followup to Slice of Life, as a continuation of a running theme this season.

The Cutie Map
Slice of Life
Amending Fences
Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep

There's one running theme here. Other ponies exist. There's more to the world than the bubble around Twilight. I actually liked last week when her old friends laughed and (in a very nice way) told her that she's just not that important. This episode does it again by treating the other ponies as characters, and not just props in the background. I like it. Makes the world seem bigger.
 
I don't think it's as much a followup to Slice of Life, as a continuation of a running theme this season.

The Cutie Map
Slice of Life
Amending Fences
Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep

There's one running theme here. Other ponies exist. There's more to the world than the bubble around Twilight. I actually liked last week when her old friends laughed and (in a very nice way) told her that she's just not that important. This episode does it again by treating the other ponies as characters, and not just props in the background. I like it. Makes the world seem bigger.

Yes, this is something I wish the show had done sooner. I felt there has been a lot of great potential with other ponies, but the show until now has always just focused on the Mane 6. What I like so much about this season is that the mane 6 have had to rely on others to save the day. It's about bringing everypony together, not just a few.
 
I think it would be interesting if the finale went in this direction:
After Starlight resets the world, the story doesn't follow Twilight and the others rediscovering their destinies, but rather Starlight, who has taken Twilight's place but discovers that the new world is wrong. It would be even more interesting if Starlight's memories were reset too and she has to discover herself that she's the reason the world is this way, making it sort of like, uh, a certain magical girl movie.

As for Nightmare Star, I'm guessing that it's something like Celestia being forced to confront Nightmare Moon without the Elements of Harmony and deciding to absorb her negative energy into herself. I wasn't a fan of Sombra doing this in the Reflections comic arc, but at least with Nightmare Moon, there were already hints that it was a sort of separate thing from Luna. In this new timeline, Discord will escape as usual, but he won't actually do anything; he still has his memories of the original timeline, unlike everyone else.

I like this, very much.
 

draetenth

Member
I don't think it's as much a followup to Slice of Life, as a continuation of a running theme this season.

The Cutie Map
Slice of Life
Amending Fences
Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep

There's one running theme here. Other ponies exist. There's more to the world than the bubble around Twilight. I actually liked last week when her old friends laughed and (in a very nice way) told her that she's just not that important. This episode does it again by treating the other ponies as characters, and not just props in the background. I like it. Makes the world seem bigger.

Yes, this is something I wish the show had done sooner. I felt there has been a lot of great potential with other ponies, but the show until now has always just focused on the Mane 6. What I like so much about this season is that the mane 6 have had to rely on others to save the day. It's about bringing everypony together, not just a few.

^ Pretty much agree with you two.
 

You know, I was planning on bringing up this connection, but I forgot.

Anyway, there's a supposed list of episode descriptions for the second half of the season going around. Doc posted about it on the Round Stable, but he didn't include the second post. Link, major spoilers if true. "The One Where Pinkie Knows" is not listed.

The rumored episode descriptions are likely fake. There are a couple of odd small things, but here are two major details that don't make sense. We already know that "Hearthbreakers", which is presumably the Christmas special, is supposed to be about Pinkie and her family and will specifically include Maud. Unless Pinkie's family is directing the play, which seems unlikely, things don't add up.

The description of the finale in the second image seems very unlikely.
There are a couple of issues with Sunset Shimmer being a princess in the alternate reality. First, why the hell would Rainbow's Rainboom affect Sunset in any way? Second, it would be very odd to bring Sunset into the show like this; the show has been making sure that you don't need to watch the Equestria Girls movies to understand what is going on, and Sunset being introduced in the show this way would be completely meaningless to someone who didn't watch them. Third, giving time to Twilight interacting with this Alternate Sunset would be a major distraction from a story where she would presumably have to re-befriend her friends and stop Starlight. And speaking of which, fourth, if Starlight is going through the effort of rewriting reality, why the hell would she not put herself in a position of power instead of just bringing in another Princess of Friendship? And lastly, there still being a Princess of Friendship implies that the world largely turned out fine even without Twilight and the others saving the day, which breaks an important trope of alternate reality stories for seemingly not much gain.

On a news note, Lena Hall tweeted about her song being shown as SDCC, but referred to it as "One of [her] songs in MLP:FIM". So yeah, her episode will probably have multiple songs from her.
 
More than the figure I posted above, it turns out Princess Big Mac is very close to this Pixelkitties art from 2013. The headdress similarity still goes to the figurine, though.

With giant Derpy, one of Kimi Sparkle's predictions came through! Kind of, she only said Derpy's legs would get longer.

Speaking of Derpy, perfect comic

Somehow I was surprised by this being made

These things aren't appreciated enough

The first gif is still neat, and the second gif is an underrated part of the episode.
Still not sure why they decided to include Filthy Rich of all characters in this episode.

Miller on Celestia not appearing in this episode, and he makes for another crew member saying they need a Celestia episode.

And I just realized that Tank is suddenly back.
 

DrForester

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The way he talks about it, I wonder if Celestia was in the original script. Either way, good that a staff member knows it's overdue.
 
The way he talks about it, I wonder if Celestia was in the original script. Either way, good that a staff member knows it's overdue.

I feel like that's a possibility. I don't think they could have fit her in at all unless this was actually a two parter though. The ending already seemed slightly abrupt as it is, so I can't imagine how it would have been if Celestia had shown up.
Although it is a bit sad/telling that nobody at all dreamt of Celestia, not even Pinkie Pie. Meaning she wouldn't even have been in the dream world.
 

DrForester

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I feel like that's a possibility. I don't think they could have fit her in at all unless this was actually a two parter though. The ending already seemed slightly abrupt as it is, so I can't imagine how it would have been if Celestia had shown up.
Although it is a bit sad/telling that nobody at all dreamt of Celestia, not even Pinkie Pie. Meaning she wouldn't even have been in the dream world.


Well, we didn't see a lot of ponies in Pinkie Pie's dream that did show up. Celestia could have popped up with everyone else.

As for Luna, Celestia not being in her dream suggests that Luna has absolutely no doubt in her mind that Celestia has forgiven her. The two have far more interactions with each other since they live in Canterlot, they've totally reconciled.
 

DrForester

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New poster for season 5. Characters that haven't been revealed yet are hidden behind silhouettes but there are definitely spoilers.
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2015/07/new-season-5-poster-pops-up-with-hidden.html#more

I'm not even going to worry about spoilers.

Those are once again the G3 Cutie Marks for Sweetie Belle and Scootaloo. I don't know why people keep bringing those up. I give the show staff credit that they're not going to copy and paste the CMC Cutie Marks.
 

Tritroid

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New poster for season 5. Characters that haven't been revealed yet are hidden behind silhouettes but there are definitely spoilers.
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2015/07/new-season-5-poster-pops-up-with-hidden.html#more

Ok so huge speculation here...but...

Is it me, or does that look like Starlight Glimmer is hidden behind silhouette almost as if she's a part of the Mane 6 lineup?

I don't see Starlight anywhere else in the poster, so what if the only reason they're hiding her is because they're going to try to make her the 7th element? Whoever it is is RIGHT THERE in line with the other 6, and Twilight is looking directly at her.

I don't think it'd be totally out of the question for her to be the 7th; she's a unicorn, so that brings back the 2-of-each-type dynamic, and the entire season has revolved around her 'lesson' in a way. What if the map is actually for the sole purpose of FINDING the 7th element?

Not to mention, that 'leak' earlier talked about Sunset Shimmer coming in as the princess of friendship in an alternate timeline. If they end up making Starlight Glimmer (similar names, by the way) the 7th element, I could see why they'd bring in Sunset Shimmer as a way of letting the fans know that she's staying solely with the EQ movies, since a lot of fans have been asking for her to come in as the 7th element herself. BUT, they'd be drawing a huge parallel with Starlight Glimmer going from villain, to part of the manes, just like Sunset Shimmer did.

I know it sounds a little crazy, but seriously why else would she be a silhouette?
 
I won't put too much stock into the cutie marks, like Doc said, but the fact that the CMC are silhouettes definitely possibly could mean something. I'm kind of surprised that there apparently aren't anymore large monsters in the season. Also, Starlight Glimmer is absent, so there may be something about her design that happens in the season finale. EDIT: Didn't consider the fact that Twilight is looking at someone right next to her. Interesting.

Or the entire thing could mean nothing, who knows.
 

DrForester

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What I expect from finale...

Starlight changes history, and sees how bad things are. She works to change what she's done. Get the Mane 6 together, and go back in time again to try and change history back to it's correct state.
 

draetenth

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Eh, I don't think there is enough there to even speculate, but then again I've never been good at picking out the hidden meaning in things.
 
Detail from the season 5 poster:
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Is that a baby carriage on top? I remember the panic over that Princess Skyla toy released between season 2 and 3, which turned out to mean nothing, and when people were posting fake season 3 premiere images of Cadance with a baby. If the image means what it might mean, then I half expect the crew to name their child Skyla specifically because of the previous fan panic. And for Skyla to come from the future for an episode as a complete badass Trunks style (and hopefully not Chibi-Usa / Rini style).

Also, the ones next to Maud are the rest of the Pie family, minus the mother apparently. Worth noting because I spent a while thinking the one with the hat was Mare-Do-Well.

There's also an entire other group of ponies on an upper floor, notably all with hats.

Also, I suppose I'm justified in posting this here instead of community because it's based on the most recent episode.
 

PaulloDEC

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Detail from the season 5 poster:
Is that a baby carriage on top? I remember the panic over that Princess Skyla toy released between season 2 and 3, which turned out to mean nothing, and when people were posting fake season 3 premiere images of Cadance with a baby. If the image means what it might mean, then I half expect the crew to name their child Skyla specifically because of the previous fan panic. And for Skyla to come from the future for an episode as a complete badass Trunks style (and hopefully not Chibi-Usa / Rini style).

Also, the ones next to Maud are the rest of the Pie family, minus the mother apparently. Worth noting because I spent a while thinking the one with the hat was Mare-Do-Well.

There's also an entire other group of ponies on an upper floor, notably all with hats.

Interesting!
Could definitely be a baby carriage on the cake, especially with the colour scheme of the cake itself (blue and pink obviously, plus yellow, which tends to be the gender-neutral colour for babies).
 

UberTag

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Interesting!
Could definitely be a baby carriage on the cake, especially with the colour scheme of the cake itself (blue and pink obviously, plus yellow, which tends to be the gender-neutral colour for babies).
I look to the inevitable episode where Twilight has to deal with the responsibility of being an aunt and looking after a newborn. She'll inevitably try and overwhelm the kid in books before they've even learned how to read.
 
I look to the inevitable episode where Twilight has to deal with the responsibility of being an aunt and looking after a newborn. She'll inevitably try and overwhelm the kid in books before they've even learned how to read.

Baby Cakes already did the "overwhelmed foalsitter" plot.
 
Episode 14 airing September 12th!

Episode: Canterlot Boutique
Synopsis:

Rarity's dream of owning a boutique in Canterlot finally comes true, but it comes at a price Rarity may not be willing to pay.
 
The show is coming back on September 12!
Canterlot Boutique
Rarity's dream of owning a boutique in Canterlot finally comes true, but it comes at a price Rarity may not be willing to pay.

Also trimmed the opening post.
EDIT: That's what I get for trimming the opening post before posting this.

I thought the description sounded like the one in the supposed leaked list of episode descriptions, but no, this actually contracts that. The official description says Rarity has her own shop, while the rumor said she'd be working for someone else.
 
And that does it, the leak is officially fake. We're back, everyone!*

*in one month, at about the same time Steven Universe comes back, at that.

Still odd that we're getting two Rarity episodes in a row, but eh. Hoping Rarity Investigates is noir-themed.
 
Ooooo. This hiatus ended up not being too bad. Really thought they were going to wait until October to start showing new episodes. And we not only get one Rarity episode, but two in a row? Rarity episodes always seem to be the best.
 

McNum

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And that does it, the leak is officially fake. We're back, everyone!*

*in one month, at about the same time Steven Universe comes back, at that.

Still odd that we're getting two Rarity episodes in a row, but eh. Hoping Rarity Investigates is noir-themed.
Rarity doing noir-style monologues while investigating would be the best. Complete with over-dramatic phrasing and strained metaphors. It would be glorious.
 
Like I mentioned in the Community topic, since Equestria Girls: Friendship Games will be airing right in the middle of new season 5 episodes, it only seems fair that Equestria Girls discussion should be in the OT instead of Community. I'm generalizing this to all official media, including the IDW comics, and I've updated the thread rules as such.

So, here's the third Friendship Games short, about Lyra and Bon Bon. Didn't like it. It was really weird and the weirdness was more, well, weird than funny. I recall that when the Spanish version leaked, someone on another forum wondered if the peacock vs. owl thing made more sense with a translation, and no, it doesn't. I didn't like the dialogue either. Only really noteworthy thing is that the iris out is in the shape of a heart.
 

Jay RaR

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Yeah that Lyrabon short was more weird than funny.

Although it makes me wonder if there'll be more Lyrabon moments in future MLP episodes or in Season 6.
 
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