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Naruto Manga Thread (OT) - The End is here

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Ponn

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There is no way Naruto and Sakura are anything like brother and sister. He's been asking her out since they were kids, and she knows that he doesn't just love her, he is in love with her, it's what she tried to leverage to get him to stop chasing after Sasuke when Sai made it clear to her that she was also causing Naruto pain.

Given how closely NaruSaku mirrors MinaKushi, ObiRin and JirTsu, how can you even come to the conclusion that Naruto is "just playing" or that he "doesn't love her that way" - when, clearly, he does and it's been like that from the very start of the series?

Then why does each and every time it turns serious Naruto "goes after Sasuke" for her "because Sakura likes Sasuke" or he rebukes her when she is finally confessing? How many people end up with their winnie cooper? Maybe i'm drawing too much from real life but if a girl refuses you but you have to maintain a close relationship either you become close friends and maintain the relationship or you become a creeper thinking you can chip away and change the other person. I'd prefer to think of Naruto not as a creeper. I was in a similar situation to this coming out of high school and confessed many times to a girl who we still maintained a close relationship and she said she thought of me like the bro she never had and just didn't have those feelings. It was hard but I accepted that realizing even if she suddenly turned on a dime and went with me would it really be love or was I just someone to settle with and that wouldn't sit well with me at all.

Thats why since Naruto has time and again when it turned serious chose to stop playing around and let Sakura follow her heart that was him making that decision. He knows he doesn't want to be what Sakura settles for because that would end up being a pretty shitty relationship lacking any real affection and at some point become toxic. Now, since he rebuked her, he is free to stop being blinded by his infatuation and see the one who really wants him and deserves.

Sakura is closer to 16 than 18, and Kakashi is in his thirties. What is up with people shipping this creepy ass shit?

Once you go Sharingan you can't go back. Though I guess thats off the table now. Maybe there is a Sharingan equivalent to Viagra.


If I saw any bro/sis act like Naruto and Sakura I would be seriously fucking disturbed.

How so? They haven't done anything. You are trying to blow their relationship up into a sexualized one to try and jump right to a Naruto x Sakura victory. Bad form.
 
NarutoXSakura, NarutoXHinata, or NarutoxSakuraxHinata. I'd be fine with either just as long at Sakura and Sasuke don't get together. Seriously if Sakura goes running to Sasuke after all the shit he's pulled it would ruin the entire manga for me.

1. Abandoned her and her team and the Village.
2. Tried to kill her
3. Tried to kill Naruto
4. Vowed to Wipeout the leaf village and everyone in it. Including her parents.
5. Now wants to kill her teacher because reasons
6. Now is going to try and kill Naruto again.

Seriously, if Sasuke goes running to him after all is said and done then Kishimoto doesn't have any respect for her character or woman in general


P.S. Fuck Sasuke.
 
How so? They haven't done anything. You are trying to blow their relationship up into a sexualized one to try and jump right to a Naruto x Sakura victory. Bad form.

Naruto obviously has feelings for Sakura just as Hinata obviously has feelings for Naruto and Sakura has feelings for Sasuke. That is not up for debate and hasn't been since the chunin exams. The question everyone wants to know if how much those feelings are reciprocated and if a relationship can come of it.


Of course Sasuke X Brooding is the true end game.
 
NarutoXSakura, NarutoXHinata, or NarutoxSakuraxHinata. I'd be fine with either just as long at Sakura and Sasuke don't get together. Seriously if Sakura goes running to Sasuke after all the shit he's pulled it would ruin the entire manga for me.

1. Abandoned her and her team and the Village.
2. Tried to kill her
3. Tried to kill Naruto
4. Vowed to Wipeout the leaf village and everyone in it. Including her parents.
5. Now wants to kill her teacher because reasons
6. Now is going to try and kill Naruto again.

Seriously, if Sasuke goes running to him after all is said and done then Kishimoto doesn't have any respect for her character or woman in general


P.S. Fuck Sasuke.

1.what is she his daughter lol.....sasuke abandoned the village since he wanted to gain more power to fight Itachi.
2. Sakura tried to kill him
3. Naruto has tried to kill Sasuke
4. No longer wishes to do that. Quite the opposite now.
5. Overthrowing the kage leadership is not a bad shout seeing how corrupted some of them have been and their leadership has done nothing to prevent tragedies. The killing is insane I agree but its probably fuelled by Sasuke's revenge since you know.....it was a Hokage that ordered the murdering of the entire Uchiha clan.
6.Naruto is going to try and kill Sasuke again.
 
Not going to lie.... Danzo aside Konoha's top brass has a extremely shady past (while the two last Hokages, 3rd and 5th ignore everything)

they pulled a lot of nasty shit in order to keep peace.... I guess Sasuke said screw them
Just because things seem cheerry between other factions in Konoha doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees

The Hidden Rock village got screwed over by Konoha so many times, plus the Rain Village

Towns destroyed people murdered and looted just so Konoha shinobis could live a better life

Plus they have a dedicated torture squad
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Not going to lie.... Danzo aside Konoha's top brass has a extremely shady past (while the two last Hokages, 3rd and 5th ignore everything)

they pulled a lot of nasty shit in order to keep peace.... I guess Sasuke said screw them
Just because things seem cheerry between other factions in Konoha doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees

The Hidden Rock village got screwed over by Konoha so many times, plus the Rain Village

Towns destroyed people murdered and looted just so Konoha shinobis could live a better life

Plus they have a dedicated torture squad

Enhanced interrogation unit, thank you very much
 

EhoaVash

Member
fuck I forgot new chapter doesn't come out on Wednesdays anymore ..now my day is ruined :(

also NaruHina is like Kushina x minato <.<

shit balances out. Naruto is like kushina ( hot tempered, etc ), Minato (calm, quiet ) is like Hinata :p

if it was naruto x sakura ..it would of been ..two kushinas ( two hot headed people who get angry easily ) <.<
 
All the other Villages are corrupt too
Sasuke idea maybe extreme but having these guy be still in power (with the exception of Gara) is ludicrous
Sure they changed... and the Kages are working together now but the Ninja world does need reform
instead of killing them fire them out of their positions.... high goverment officials too
rework each villages governments... connect them to one main power and reassign people to new positions


Edit: Oh but those two old coots in Konoha that sat with Danzo need jail time stat

Third Hokage (if he was still alive) is a criminal too... allowing genocide WTF
 
The kages don't care of anything other than the well being of their village which is why I do not oppose the over rule the kage system part. Sasuke just takes it too far with the killing. Thats not necessary. I can see the hypocrisy though:

Village murders an entire clan. Lone survivor of clan wants to enact revenge and kill the leaders. Is treated like a criminal.

Terrorist group murders lots of civilians in the village. Now lets say said boy wants revenge and kills the leaders of the terrorist group. You can bet your as that he won't be treated like a criminal.....more like a hero.
 
1.what is she his daughter lol.....sasuke abandoned the village since he wanted to gain more power to fight Itachi.
Yes he betrayed his team and his friends.
2. Sakura tried to kill him
And couldn't do it, and this was after he threaten to kill her and after he tried to kill Karin.
3. Naruto has tried to kill Sasuke
When was this? Because even after Shituke put a Chidori through his chest at the valley of the end Naruto was still trying to bring him back alive.
4. No longer wishes to do that. Quite the opposite now.
Doesn't matter because the threat was real at the time.
5. Overthrowing the kage leadership is not a bad shout seeing how corrupted some of them have been and their leadership has done nothing to prevent tragedies. The killing is insane I agree but its probably fuelled by Sasuke's revenge since you know.....it was a Hokage that ordered the murdering of the entire Uchiha clan.
Danzo ordered the Uchiha's killed because they were trying to overthrow the village and that would have brought down the entire country of fire. But that has fuck all to do with wanting to kill the current Kage. You know the one that saved Sasuke's life or Gara for that fact.

6.Naruto is going to try and kill Sasuke again.

Remains to be seen Naruto hasn't wanted to kill anyone even pain after he killed Jiraiya.

The point is Sasuke is a completely shitty person and Sakura has no business still being in love with him.
 

Yado

Member
fuck I forgot new chapter doesn't come out on Wednesdays anymore ..now my day is ruined :(

also NaruHina is like Kushina x minato <.<

shit balances out. Naruto is like kushina ( hot tempered, etc ), Minato (calm, quiet ) is like Hinata :p

if it was naruto x sakura ..it would of been ..two kushinas ( two hot headed people who get angry easily ) <.<

I've seen more inclinations that Naruto and Sakura are supposed to mirror his father and Kushina than Naruto and Hinata. At this point Naruhina supporters are overlooking the receipts and filling in the blanks with fantasies. Naruto has never shown any romantic interest in Hinata. Whenever he's asked, or whenever he's thinking about it, it's always been Sakura. It's ok to want things, but let's not overlook the facts.

Yes, if NaruSaku happened it would be poor writing, but Naruto has been riddled with poor writing throughout the years, so why not? Sakura suddenly falling for Naruto is just as bad as Naruto suddenly falling for Hinata.
 

Namikaze1

Member
I keep seeing people here and on other forums mention Hinata is like Minato.

Please, for the love that is ramen, answer me how the hell she is like him?!


Anyway, we all know the one true pairing:

Naruto x Ramen

Don't you dare get between a man and his food!
 
Naruto has never shown any romantic interest in Hinata.

To be fair, Naruto is one oblivious mother fucker. He didn't even know Hinata was in love with him. Of course it didn't help that all Hinata did was hide behind trees.

The ironic thing is that Naruto was so attention starved as a kid and wanted anyone to acknowledge him. If Hinata would have just talked to him. NarutoXHinata would be canon now.
 
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Dat Shikaku
 

Frog-fu

Banned
Then why does each and every time it turns serious Naruto "goes after Sasuke" for her "because Sakura likes Sasuke" or he rebukes her when she is finally confessing? How many people end up with their winnie cooper? Maybe i'm drawing too much from real life but if a girl refuses you but you have to maintain a close relationship either you become close friends and maintain the relationship or you become a creeper thinking you can chip away and change the other person. I'd prefer to think of Naruto not as a creeper. I was in a similar situation to this coming out of high school and confessed many times to a girl who we still maintained a close relationship and she said she thought of me like the bro she never had and just didn't have those feelings. It was hard but I accepted that realizing even if she suddenly turned on a dime and went with me would it really be love or was I just someone to settle with and that wouldn't sit well with me at all.

Thats why since Naruto has time and again when it turned serious chose to stop playing around and let Sakura follow her heart that was him making that decision. He knows he doesn't want to be what Sakura settles for because that would end up being a pretty shitty relationship lacking any real affection and at some point become toxic. Now, since he rebuked her, he is free to stop being blinded by his infatuation and see the one who really wants him and deserves.

The false confession really irritates me not because it happened but because people try to turn it into something it's nothing, they make it out to be selfish and make Sakura look like the bad guy, like she is purposefully manipulating Naruto for her own selfish goal, when in truth - in obvious truth - it was an entirely selfless act, an attempt at making Naruto happy. Naruto rejected Sakura for one very clear reason: he knew.

I've said it before, and it's pretty evident, that NaruSaku closely resembles JirTsu in a lot of ways, especially the element of unrequited love, however with Naruto being the hero and succeeding where others have failed, he actually stands a good chance at getting the girl in the end, and the thing about that is that Naruto doesn't want to change Sakura, he's not trying to wear her down (though he did used to ask her out all the time), he just wants her to be happy regardless of who it is. I'm confident in the end Sakura will choose Naruto.
 
Add to this: What if Naruto DIDN'T reject her?

People act like Sakura doesn't want to be in a relationship with him, but had her plan succeeded in the best case scenario then A)Sasuke would be dead, and B)Naruto would be her Boyfriend.

She went in with the idea that Naruto would accept it.

Meaning the idea of being with Naruto has DEFINITELY crossed her mind.

This isn't a bro/sis relationship by ANY stretch of the imagination.
 
Yes he betrayed his team and his friends.

And couldn't do it, and this was after he threaten to kill her and after he tried to kill Karin.

When was this? Because even after Shituke put a Chidori through his chest at the valley of the end Naruto was still trying to bring him back alive.

Doesn't matter because the threat was real at the time.

Danzo ordered the Uchiha's killed because they were trying to overthrow the village and that would have brought down the entire country of fire. But that has fuck all to do with wanting to kill the current Kage. You know the one that saved Sasuke's life or Gara for that fact.



Remains to be seen Naruto hasn't wanted to kill anyone even pain after he killed Jiraiya.

The point is Sasuke is a completely shitty person and Sakura has no business still being in love with him.

More like he just left the village to pursue his own goal.....why is that such a big thing, well its not but villages make it seem like it is and brand people as traitors to prevent it from happening.

It doesn't matter if she couldn't do it. Do you think Sasuke knew that when she approached behind his back with a kunai?

Lmao that went out the window as soon as Naruto succumbed to the nine tails fox. Both of them were going to kill each other.

There was little threat just words from a clearly deluded Sasuke.

It wasn't just Danzo. The 3rd Hokage agreed and genocide is simply the most despicable solution to such a problem Even the Leaf know this hence it was kept a secret. Do you think people would still respect Sarutobi if they realised he condoned the mass murder of dozens of innocent children, women and men.

Actions speak louder than words. Naruto's techniques can easily kill. Rasenshuriken for instance.
 

Sai

Member
The fatc that she's sadden by Sasuke's lack of care just shows that she still cares for him. Oh and several chapters later she's shouting for Sasuke and wanting Naruto to find him and then this happens:

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o_o Is the online reader I'm using not referring to the correct chapter? I'm talking about the one that precedes it, Kakashi's commentary on what their former dreams were compared to what they are now.

[EDIT] - Nope, I guess it wasn't. The Chapter I'm referring to was indeed 675.

I'll just save everyone the trouble and link to the page:

 
^^
Yeah they matured... Sakura feelings for Sasuke is more complex now then before when she was just a fangirl for him

it doesn't mean she doesn't still love the guy since there are two other chapter post that one that makes it quite clear
 

Sai

Member
I also presented that possibility, said that it could have changed into something more than mere infatuation.

But the other possibility, that being her feelings have waned, was one that many more seemed to take from that page—myself included.

That's the last I'll be saying about anything pairing-related until we actually see something conclusive. Romance is handled terribly in this manga.
 

Frog-fu

Banned
Add to this: What if Naruto DIDN'T reject her?

People act like Sakura doesn't want to be in a relationship with him, but had her plan succeeded in the best case scenario then A)Sasuke would be dead, and B)Naruto would be her Boyfriend.

She went in with the idea that Naruto would accept it.

Meaning the idea of being with Naruto has DEFINITELY crossed her mind.

This isn't a bro/sis relationship by ANY stretch of the imagination.

I think the idea of dating Naruto must have been crossed Sakura's mind a number of times over the course of the series. The signs were definitely there, but I think Kishimoto kept drawing out the manga longer than intended. For example, as far back as 297 Yamato alluded to Sakura having stronger feelings than she might have realised.
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Of course Naruto woke up the next second, but if Kishi wasn't hinting at something more than just platonic love, then why the tease, right?

Sai was also pretty clear on how much Sakura cared for Naruto, going as far as to point out that she never addressed him with a suffix because they're familiar and noted in 289 - before Yamato's allusions - that Sakura was very gentle when it came to Naruto.

Though not canon, Road to Ninja, which was written by Kishimoto, was pretty much an anthem to NaruSaku and rife with parallels to MinaKushi.
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Like I'm supposed to observe all this and come to the conclusion that NaruSaku is not a very likely pairing to happen, but instead that they're like brother and sister? C'mon man.
 
Add to this: What if Naruto DIDN'T reject her?

People act like Sakura doesn't want to be in a relationship with him, but had her plan succeeded in the best case scenario then A)Sasuke would be dead, and B)Naruto would be her Boyfriend.

She went in with the idea that Naruto would accept it.

Meaning the idea of being with Naruto has DEFINITELY crossed her mind.

This isn't a bro/sis relationship by ANY stretch of the imagination.

No you're misinterpreting the scene.

Sakura couldn't bear the pain of seeing Sasuke being treated like a criminal, seeing how many criminal acts he has committed and her friends all wanting to kill him. She also couldn't bear the pain seeing naruto risk and waste his life going after Sasuke. Foolishly she thinks that Naruto is doing this all because of her promise. So in an attempt to "right" things she declares she no longer has feeling towards Sasuke and loves Naruto.

Note how he accuses her of lying to herself. He knows Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke and that her confession isn't genuine. She knows this as well but is lying to stop Naruto from his endless pursuit which she feels guilty for. Naruto cuts the bs and pretty much says that her vow is not the main reason he is still looking for Sasuke. We all know Naruto consider's Sasuke to be his brother.

Heck we get confirmation that Sakura is still in love with Sasuke in 540 explicitly shown.

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o_o Is the online reader I'm using not referring to the correct chapter? I'm talking about the one that precedes it, Kakashi's commentary on what their former dreams were compared to what they are now.

[EDIT] - Nope, I guess it wasn't. The Chapter I'm referring to was indeed 675.

I'll just save everyone the trouble and link to the page:

Her feelings have most likely changed. In fact I would say Kakashi is years late with the analysis. At the beginning it more of a fan girl thing however its clearly developed into love. Even Kakshi kind of see's this saying that she still has feelings for him but its different to how it was at the beginning of the series (aka the fangirl).
 
I think the idea of dating Naruto must have been crossed Sakura's mind a number of times over the course of the series. The signs were definitely there, but I think Kishimoto kept drawing out the manga longer than intended. For example, as far back as 297 Yamato alluded to Sakura having stronger feelings than she might have realised.
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Of course Naruto woke up the next second, but if Kishi wasn't hinting at something more than just platonic love, then why the tease, right?

Sai was also pretty clear on how much Sakura cared for Naruto, going as far as to point out that she never addressed him with a suffix because they're familiar and noted in 289 - before Yamato's allusions - that Sakura was very gentle when it came to Naruto.

Though not canon, Road to Ninja, which was written by Kishimoto, was pretty much an anthem to NaruSaku and rife with parallels to MinaKushi.
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Like I'm supposed to observe all this and come to the conclusion that NaruSaku is not a very likely pairing to happen, but instead that they're like brother and sister? C'mon man.
Yeah cause Yamato knew Sakura so well after knowing her for 3 days he doesnt even know her whole past with Sasuke and how she felt and still feels about him, also dont bring RTN into this its the most non canon thing ever that doesnt even fit into the timeline of the manga or anime its more fanfiction then anything.

Also when you say Naruto has shown absolutely no interest in Hinata

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its nor normal to hold someones hand in Japan unless theyre really important to you.
also lets not forget the amount of times Narutos hasnt believed in Sakuras abilites and doubted her and the amount of times hes believed in Hinata and shown to really count on her.
Also lets not forget that the first person he ever willingly showed his vulnerable side to anyone was when he was talking to Hinata on the day of the chunin exam finals.
 
Yeah cause Yamato knew Sakura so well after knowing her for 3 days he doesnt even know her whole past with Sasuke and how she felt and still feels about him, also dont bring RTN into this its the most non canon thing ever that doesnt even fit into the timeline of the manga or anime its more fanfiction then anything.

Also when you say Naruto has shown absolutely no interest in Hinata

hinata-and-naruto-hold-hands.jpg

its nor normal to hold someones hand in Japan unless theyre really important to you.
also lets not forget the amount of times Narutos hasnt believed in Sakuras abilites and doubted her and the amount of times hes believed in Hinata and shown to really count on her.
Also lets not forget that the first person he ever willingly showed his vulnerable side to anyone was when he was talking to Hinata on the day of the chunin exam finals.

He only held her hand so he could transfer chakra to her.

What happens LITERALLY the next chapter? He let's go and starts distributing it to everyone, with zero fucks given about Hinata.

Then his father shows up, asks who his girlfriend was. Who was that? Did he say Hinata?

Nope. Not at all. He didn't even ALLUDE to her. Outright came out and said Sakura was his girlfriend, which she didn't deny, but scolded him anyhow. Minato then compared her to Kushina DIRECTLY. You know, his WIFE. Aka a romantic partner whom he had a kid with.

This isn't rocket science.

Hinata has been friend zoned hard.
 

Yado

Member
Yeah cause Yamato knew Sakura so well after knowing her for 3 days he doesnt even know her whole past with Sasuke and how she felt and still feels about him, also dont bring RTN into this its the most non canon thing ever that doesnt even fit into the timeline of the manga or anime its more fanfiction then anything.

Also when you say Naruto has shown absolutely no interest in Hinata

hinata-and-naruto-hold-hands.jpg

its nor normal to hold someones hand in Japan unless theyre really important to you.
also lets not forget the amount of times Narutos hasnt believed in Sakuras abilites and doubted her and the amount of times hes believed in Hinata and shown to really count on her.
Also lets not forget that the first person he ever willingly showed his vulnerable side to anyone was when he was talking to Hinata on the day of the chunin exam finals.

Ok if that meant something, why didn't he tell his dad Hinata was his girlfriend, or indicate that he liked her when his father asked? That happened shortly after this pivotal moment didn't it?

Do you really think Minato saying that Sakura reminds him of Kushina means nothing? lol

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damn you tactical lol
 
Ok if that meant something, why didn't he tell his dad Hinata was his girlfriend, or indicate that he liked her when his father asked? That happened shortly after this pivotal moment didn't it?

Do you really think Minato saying that Sakura reminds him of Kushina means nothing? lol

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damn you tactical lol

What does Minato's reference have to do with Naruto's choice?

Look at what Naruto says:

But mom told me to find a woman like her, and ....uh,er...well....Anyway, I haven't done everything she told to me to do, but....I've been trying hard to do it all.

I think its pretty obvious whats trying to be said here.
 
He only held her hand so he could transfer chakra to her.

What happens LITERALLY the next chapter? He let's go and starts distributing it to everyone, with zero fucks given about Hinata.

Then his father shows up, asks who his girlfriend was. Who was that? Did he say Hinata?

Nope. Not at all. He didn't even ALLUDE to her. Outright came out and said Sakura was his girlfriend, which she didn't deny, but scolded him anyhow. Minato then compared her to Kushina DIRECTLY. You know, his WIFE. Aka a romantic partner whom he had a kid with.

This isn't rocket science.

Hinata has been friend zoned hard.

If you had payed attention you would have noticed in that chapter that the people transferring chakra to everyone else were shadow clones and naruto didnt leave hinatas side for a while until the giant bird attack.
Also it wasnt just chakara transfer because he held her hand before he had the chakra cloak on and he said "its because "youve been by my side this whole time"
Also that dumb girlfriend thing was a joke, naruto was just messing with Sakura he even swears later never to joke around with her again.
Also Naruto still doesnt know if hes fully in love with Hinata yet but he does have feelings For her he just doesnt fully get them. Again when hes listing off the things that Kushina told him to do the one that he said "well not eveything is going like she said." Was when he started about finding a girl like her.
 

Frog-fu

Banned
Yeah cause Yamato knew Sakura so well after knowing her for 3 days he doesnt even know her whole past with Sasuke and how she felt and still feels about him, also dont bring RTN into this its the most non canon thing ever that doesnt even fit into the timeline of the manga or anime its more fanfiction then anything.

3 days is plenty, especially in a manga where the past 4-5 years now has been spent over less time than that in the manga. All I'm saying is that, in retrospect, one could imagine that was supposed to be one of the more definitive signs back when Kishimoto presumably had no intention of writing close to 700 chapters.

RTN was penned by Kishimoto himself, it's therefore perfectly valid to consider it insofar as where the author himself may stand. To say it is worth absolutely nothing is disingenuous.

Also when you say Naruto has shown absolutely no interest in Hinata

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its nor normal to hold someones hand in Japan unless theyre really important to you.

What interest does Naruto show in Hinata by holding her hands, because it's surely not more than platonic considering this took place in 615, and in 631 this happened.
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It's also not common, I imagine, to embrace someone in public.
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Just look at the reactions, even Kakashi was surprised she did that.

also lets not forget the amount of times Narutos hasnt believed in Sakuras abilites and doubted her and the amount of times hes believed in Hinata and shown to really count on her.

No one encourages Sakura more than Naruto. Especially when others, like Sasuke recently, put her down, Naruto sticks up for her every time and never fails to compliment her when she does something he thinks is genuinely amazing.

Also lets not forget that the first person he ever willingly showed his vulnerable side to anyone was when he was talking to Hinata on the day of the chunin exam finals.

Eh, what? Naruto barely knew Hinata back at the Ch&#363;nin Exams, even know he doesn't know her that well. It's even stated a number of times in the manga that Naruto first opened up to Iruka, then Team 7 and then everyone else. Naruto has always been pretty unabashed to show his emotions, even when he's vulnerable, and did so a number of times before the Ch&#363;nin Exams even began.
 
RTN was penned by Kishimoto himself, it's therefore perfectly valid to consider it insofar as where the author himself may stand. To say it is worth absolutely nothing is disingenuous.

No its not.

Its simple. RTN is not canon and so what happens in it has no bearing in what happens in the actual series. Things were purposely changed and leeway was given due to the very fact that its not canon.

Referring to the manga is the best way to see the authors intentions on where the series is heading or has treaded.
 

Ponn

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He only held her hand so he could transfer chakra to her.

What happens LITERALLY the next chapter? He let's go and starts distributing it to everyone, with zero fucks given about Hinata.

Then his father shows up, asks who his girlfriend was. Who was that? Did he say Hinata?

Nope. Not at all. He didn't even ALLUDE to her. Outright came out and said Sakura was his girlfriend, which she didn't deny, but scolded him anyhow. Minato then compared her to Kushina DIRECTLY. You know, his WIFE. Aka a romantic partner whom he had a kid with.

This isn't rocket science.

Hinata has been friend zoned hard.

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He did not hold anyone else's hand like her's to transfer chakra. It was meant to be an affectionate moment and you know it.

Also there are two different moments people are talking about in regards to Minato. The first one was done in a very joking manner and Sakura nailed him for mentioning it. Naruto is not stupid and knew this would get a rise out of her. The second time when he was being sincere and serious he mentioned that not everything was the same, specifically in regards to someone he met in comparison to Minato/Kushina.

What interest does Naruto show in Hinata by holding her hands, because it's surely not more than platonic considering this took place in 615, and in 631 this happened.


It's also not common, I imagine, to embrace someone in public.

There is a definite more romantic insinuation between holding someone's hand in public and giving someone a hug. At least in the U.S. I can't speak for other countries.
 
3 days is plenty, especially in a manga where the past 4-5 years now has been spent over less time than that in the manga. All I'm saying is that, in retrospect, one could imagine that was supposed to be one of the more definitive signs back when Kishimoto presumably had no intention of writing close to 700 chapters.

RTN was penned by Kishimoto himself, it's therefore perfectly valid to consider it insofar as where the author himself may stand. To say it is worth absolutely nothing is disingenuous.
but when he knew nothing about her feelings for sasuke is what bothers me with that, he doesnt know team 7s past.
Also kishimoto barely did anything for RTN other then art and the basic plot he didnt write the whole thing.



What interest does Naruto show in Hinata by holding her hands, because it's surely not more than platonic considering this took place in 615, and in 631 this happened.
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Just look at the reactions, even Kakashi was surprised she did that.
When naruto is saying things like. "Thank you hinata. Its because youve been by my side this whole time." and sakura hugging him was cause he just saved their whole village from being killed. I think that deserves a hug.

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No one encourages Sakura more than Naruto. Especially when others, like Sasuke recently, put her down, Naruto sticks up for her every time and never fails to compliment her when she does something he thinks is genuinely amazing.[/quote]
No naruto is usually shown freaking out when Sakura does something impressive. Also remember that sakura was about to scold naruto for getting angry at tsunade when he found out Jiraya had died. Hell the only two people that tried to cheer naruto up after that were Shikamaru and Iruka. Also after the pain fight when narutos upset about tsunade being in a coma naruto doesnt even think about sakura being upset about it and doesnt try to cheer her up, she even gets annoyed about that when shes trying to cheer him up.


Eh, what? Naruto barely knew Hinata back at the Ch&#363;nin Exams, even know he doesn't know her that well. It's even stated a number of times in the manga that Naruto first opened up to Iruka, then Team 7 and then everyone else. Naruto has always been pretty unabashed to show his emotions, even when he's vulnerable, and did so a number of times before the Ch&#363;nin Exams even began.
Show me one scene where Naruto willing tell someone "I may appear strong to you but thats just because I act tough because im frustrated with failing all the time." He was literally shaking in his boots before his fight with Neji and the person who brought him out of his funk was Hinata.
 
Also there are two different moments people are talking about in regards to Minato. The first one was done in a very joking manner and Sakura nailed him for mentioning it. Naruto is not stupid and knew this would get a rise out of her. The second time when he was being sincere and serious he mentioned that not everything was the same, specifically in regards to someone he met in comparison to Minato/Kushina.

Exactly. The former was clearly a joke while the latter was from his heart.
 
I'm pretty interested in seeing sakuras reaction to this fight. Hope we get something next chapter. If only we got a double because they skipped a week. That would be the bomb.
 
I can't help but think it'll be Hinata just purely because Kishimoto recently tried to bring attention to the irrelevant Byakugan with Kaguya and Rikudou's brother. As if it's just a setup for yet another parallel after Naruto becomes Ninja jesus and brings peace to the world.

And the last color spread had Sakura riding on a horse with Sasuke. Naruto was solo. You can scrutinize any moment in the manga all you want but he's clearly linking those two together.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Ok if that meant something, why didn't he tell his dad Hinata was his girlfriend, or indicate that he liked her when his father asked? That happened shortly after this pivotal moment didn't it?

Do you really think Minato saying that Sakura reminds him of Kushina means nothing? lol

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damn you tactical lol

That's not at all how the scene went.

Minato arrives on the battlefield and chats with Naruto, who's being healed by Sakura.

"She your girlfriend or something?"

Naruto: "Mmm..... I guess you could say that/something like that" (This is not portrayed in a serious manner at all).

It wasn't a serious exchange.
 
That's not at all how the scene went.

Minato arrives on the battlefield and chats with Naruto, who's being healed by Sakura.

"She your girlfriend or something?"

Naruto: "Mmm..... I guess you could say that/something like that" (This is not portrayed in a serious manner at all).

It wasn't a serious exchange.
Yet minato took it serious. Sorry you aren't going to try and downplay it simply because it doesn't fit with your view. This is straight up denial.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Yet minato took it serious. Sorry you aren't going to try and downplay it simply because it doesn't fit with your view. This is straight up denial.

Or he just understands that they're close, maybe/maybe not romantically. And that Sakura is gentle, but also freakishly strong/hot-tempered.

Or do you honestly think the leader of a village doesn't have the interpersonal skills to detect sarcasm?

Seriously, you're reading waay too much into this.
 

Sai

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This is why they put y'all in Community.

They knew. :I

I wonder how much new unexplained nonsense Sasuke's going to pull out of his backside tomorrow, and how much it'll piss off the readers.
 
Put me down for NaruSaku.

It couldn't be more clear. The parallels are about as subtle as a sledgehammer to head. To touch on Naruto's goodbye to Minato and his "But mom told me to find a woman just like her.. I haven't done everything she said.." comment, I always interpreted that as his cover for Sakura getting pissed at Naruto labeling her as his girlfriend earlier. It's more of a "things aren't quite working out yet", comment.


Also, LeeTen.
 
This is why they put y'all in Community.

They knew. :I

I wonder how much new unexplained nonsense Sasuke's going to pull out of his backside tomorrow, and how much it'll piss off the readers.

He better. He hasn't been using the rinnegan techniques at all.

Put me down for NaruSaku.

It couldn't be more clear. The parallels are about as subtle as a sledgehammer to head. To touch on Naruto's goodbye to Minato and his "But mom told me to find a woman just like her.. I haven't done everything she said.." comment, I always interpreted that as his cover for Sakura getting pissed at Naruto labeling her as his girlfriend earlier. It's more of a "things aren't quite working out yet", comment.


Also, LeeTen.

You missed a line.

But mom told me to find a woman like her, and ....uh,er...well....Anyway, I haven't done everything she told to me to do, but....I've been trying hard to do it all.

Naruto admits defeat.
 

Frog-fu

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There is a definite more romantic insinuation between holding someone's hand in public and giving someone a hug. At least in the U.S. I can't speak for other countries.

It's about as romantic as NaruSaku is a bro/sis relationship.

The hug was quit obviously emotionally charged. Sakura was of course thanking him for saving the village, that's not in contention at all, but I think the fact Naruto showed up just as she needed him to factored into that.

but when he knew nothing about her feelings for sasuke is what bothers me with that, he doesnt know team 7s past.
Also kishimoto barely did anything for RTN other then art and the basic plot he didnt write the whole thing.

It's possible the love triangle was meant to be change in the sense that Naruto had feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke at the same time, something which is distinctly possible where the manga is now.

Kishimoto wrote the entire story, that was the big draw to that film, and even wrote a manga special for it.

When naruto is saying things like. "Thank you hinata. Its because youve been by my side this whole time." and sakura hugging him was cause he just saved their whole village from being killed. I think that deserves a hug.

Naruto acknowledged Hinata had always supported him. That doesn't mean he loves or is obligated to, it means he appreciates her for doing so.

Sakura hugging Naruto was very out of character and it showed judging from the reactions.

No naruto is usually shown freaking out when Sakura does something impressive. Also remember that sakura was about to scold naruto for getting angry at tsunade when he found out Jiraya had died. Hell the only two people that tried to cheer naruto up after that were Shikamaru and Iruka. Also after the pain fight when narutos upset about tsunade being in a coma naruto doesnt even think about sakura being upset about it and doesnt try to cheer her up, she even gets annoyed about that when shes trying to cheer him up.

Sakura scolded Naruto for blaming Tsunade because what he said was hurtful. What else was she supposed to do? Tsunade is her teacher, and she let Naruto go because Tsunade told her to leave him be for a while. Sakura did see him off and gave him words of encouragement when he left to train with the toads though.

As for cheering her up, it was actually nice to see Sakura try to cheer Naruto up for once since he's usually the one to try and cheer her up.

Show me one scene where Naruto willing tell someone "I may appear strong to you but thats just because I act tough because im frustrated with failing all the time." He was literally shaking in his boots before his fight with Neji and the person who brought him out of his funk was Hinata.

We can both play this game where we ask for specific scenes only one side of the argument can produce, so let's not.
 
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