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Nah dude, Naruto would max out the Speed stat.
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Nah dude, Naruto would max out the Speed stat.
TacticalFox88
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Hashi and Mads would for sure.
Winterfang
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I don't want to sound like a fanboy because Naruto is my favorite character but yeah. Also max out the strength, chakra, ninjutsu and stamina if there was one. Only lacking in Gen jutsu and intelligence.
I dunno know about that. Hashirama is questionable on genjutsu and intelligence in particular, I don't see him getting 5/5s in that. As for Madara, he seems more well rounded so I suppose he could.
TheRealTalker
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plus he lacks in taijutsu
My guesses for Naruto
Ninjutsu: 4 > 5
Taijutsu: 3.5 > 5
Genjutsu: 2 > 2.5
Intelligence: 3 > 3.5
Strength: 3.5 > 5
Speed: 3.5 > 5
Stamina: 5
Hand seals: 1.5 > 4.5
Total: 26 > 35.5
All in all, the same as Jiraiya.
To be fair, Naruto has some of the best chakra control feats in the entire series now that he has full control of Kurama, so he might have actually gotten 5/5 in that.
Are you serious?
Ninjutsu: 4 > 5
Taijutsu: 3.5 > 5
Genjutsu: 2 > 2.5
Intelligence: 3 > 3.5
Strength: 3.5 > 5
Speed: 3.5 > 5
Stamina: 5
Hand seals: 1.5 > 4.5
Total: 26 > 35.5
All in all, the same as Jiraiya.
To be fair, Naruto has some of the best chakra control feats in the entire series now that he has full control of Kurama, so he might have actually gotten 5/5 in that.
Are you serious?
Winterfang
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Frog Kata's bro.
Also hashirama has that ninjutsu that makes everything black right?
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Sage Madara or Kaguya might. Madara is more likely as Kaguya was pretty reliant on Black Zetsu for a lot of her thinking, which might hurt her intelligence score a bit. Also, she was crazy, where Madara was cold and calculating.
Welfare
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You serious? Frog Kata pushes him to 5/5
Brawndo Addict
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The alien thing wasn't a joke? I just thought that was a riff on stupid motivations/back stories that villains have. God damn it....
Winterfang
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I think relying on BZ was the smartest thing she did. She was sleeping for a thousand years, and didn't knew anything about the current world. Apparently from the data book it just said that she started to believe all the chakra in the world belong to her, so she wanted to take in all back from her own sons.
Kawazu Kumite was about using natural energy to enhance the range of your attacks. While Naruto is obviously a dangerous close combatant, and should have seen a noticeable bump on his Taijutsu rating, the rating itself, if I remember correctly, was based on form.
I wouldn't have expected him to have a 5 there just because of Kawazu Kumite. Stats didn't account for power-ups anyways.
I wouldn't have expected him to have a 5 there just because of Kawazu Kumite. Stats didn't account for power-ups anyways.
It's absolutely terrible. Should've been from another continent or somethin'.
[EDIT] - Wewps. Sorry for the double post.
zedreamcast
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I think you have to be either Neji, Lee, or Gai level to get a perfect 5
Do the stats reflect the characters' strongest modes? Surely Naruto would have scored higher than 26 in the latest stats considering the could 4Tails.
I don't Madara is as smart as some might think he is. He was a genius and prodigy, sure, but Sasuke's potential is even greater and I don't think either of them would score 5/5 intelligence.
Speaking of Sasuke's stats, I'd score him
Ninjutsu: 5 > 5
Taijutsu: 3.5 > 5
Genjutsu: 4 > 5
Intelligence: 3.5 > 4
Strength: 3.5 > 4
Speed: 4 > 5
Stamina: 3.5 > 5
Hand seals: 4 > 4
Total: 31.5 > 37
He'd get a higher score than Naruto imo considering he's got that genjutsu buff.
Then again, characters we've never even seen use genjutsu and aren't even the type scored well in that regard, so perhaps, given how he is now effectively immune to genjutsu, in most cases anyway, perhaps Naruto would score higher than a 2.5 as well.
Naruto wrecks all three.
Yes, including Eight Gates Gai.
Liquid_015
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After reading the last chapters,
Does Naruto lose his tailed beast abilities, and his sage of the six path mode as well?
Does Naruto lose his tailed beast abilities, and his sage of the six path mode as well?
I didn't realize people thought the alien thing was a manga joke?? I always took that pretty seriously although Naruto's reaction was comical. She's Kaguya, the moon princess. Ever since Naruto spoke to the sage, it was kinda obvious she wasn't from their world and her character was following mythology closer than I originally thought. As weird as it feels, Naruto uses all kinds of plots from Japanese mythology, so I'm not too stunned.
I'm not too sure on this. That fruit still bloomed on ninja earth right, unless the seed came from someplace else. Haven't read through all the databook yet.
I'm not too sure on this. That fruit still bloomed on ninja earth right, unless the seed came from someplace else. Haven't read through all the databook yet.
I don't think his power was necessarily confined to his right hand or the mark.
Ditto. I always had my suspicions when it came to the moon after the Sage of the Six Paths was expounded upon, and when Kaguya first mention I had my suspicions, which were strengthened when Hagoromo said his mother came from a distant land or whatever it was that he said.
Naruto has actually sparked my interest in Japanese mythology. I've read up a bit here and on Shintoism and other folklore. Because of that I (and most people that looked this up) knew Izanami was coming. I actually thought Itachi's crow was going to contain that power.
Eh, I doubt his Taijutsu or speed would be rated that much higher.
Stamina too, actually. The way he's been using his dōryoku since acquiring the Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan could be attributed more to acclimation, than more chakra to waste.
If you're referring to the loss of his right arm, his power wasn't necessarily tied to that. The sun and moon seals that Hagoromo gave to Naruto and Sasuke apparently contained his Rikudō no Yo & In no Chikara, to be used for the express purpose of initiating his Rikudō Chibaku Tensei.
While the ability may have been awakened by Hagoromo, just like Sasuke's Rinnegan required the chakra of both Indra and Asura, the prerequisites for Naruto's Rikudō Senjutsu had already been established by having the chakra of all the Bijū within him.
The fourth Data Book points out that the Shinjū, which bore the chakra fruit that Kaguya had eaten, was born from all the blood that was being spilled by humanity, because of the constant conflict.
While this doesn't rule out the possibility of their being other sources of chakra, the immense chakra that caused Kaguya to be known as something of a Goddess was gained from that chakra fruit.
Even Kishimoto himself admits that he should have planned things out better.
Kaguya and the others could have simply been tied to the mythology they were based on with Chibaku Tensei; having the "Rabbit Princess" sealed in the moon they created, then having their descendants migrate to that moon with the chakra inherited by Kaguya's two sons to guard over what was sealed there.
Coming from another continent, on earth, would have been more sensible. But space? Gives rise to too many questions I'm pretty confident Kishimoto will never answer.
Ninjas and Aliens... I just don't like the mixture, sorry.
Kaguya and the others could have simply been tied to the mythology they were based on with Chibaku Tensei; having the "Rabbit Princess" sealed in the moon they created, then having their descendants migrate to that moon with the chakra inherited by Kaguya's two sons to guard over what was sealed there.
Coming from another continent, on earth, would have been more sensible. But space? Gives rise to too many questions I'm pretty confident Kishimoto will never answer.
Ninjas and Aliens... I just don't like the mixture, sorry.
Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if we got a part 3. Not saying it will concretely happen, but I don't see why there's any reason to concretely say that it won't. If SJ or Pierrot sees money in it, they'll do it no matter how bad it might turn out, whether Kishi is behind it or not. There's potential for more storytelling whether we move forward or back. People say, if it follows Naruto and co again, who is left for Naruto to fight when he's so strong. Now that we have aliens confirmed, there's no limits. Not saying I want this, but I would not be surprised. Naruto still has money earning potential.
The Silver
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I never doubtted they were aliens, my prediction of the anti-spiral space bunny empire is coming true I tell ya.
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Winterfang
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Sage Mode Naruto would fucking destroy Neji in a Taijutsu battle.
TheRealTalker
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the frog technique adds power yes but if he doesn't know high end fighting combos and counters he can likely get beaten by someone with better Taijutsu skills in a hand to hand fight
Edit: I would say people who have some skill based Taijutsu are perfect fives compared to Naruto's Frog Sage stuff which might be a 4
Edit 2: Just give them power like Guys 8th gate and you'd see them destroying Naruto in hand to hand combat seeing as they know things like counters and dodges plus skillful hand attacks
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Still irked that these same living embodiments of hatred and mass destruction became tamable pets. Naruto being best bros with "Kurama" outdoes any "he was the coolest guy" stuff. It trivialized what the tailed beasts were set up to be.
That's actually a good question. Does anyone know?
I'll give Sakura's stats ago since why the hell not.
Ninjutsu: 3 > 5
Taijutsu: 3 > 5
Genjutsu: 3.5 > 3.5
Intelligence: 4 > 5
Strength: 3 > 5
Speed: 3 > 4
Stamina: 4 > 4.5
Hand seals: 4 > 5
Tota: 26 > 37
That puts her 2 points above Tsunade.
After checking out a bunch of stats from other characters that have never been seen using genjutsu or are even really the type to but have broken out of them or are presumably capable of doing so have 3/5. Naruto has been taught to break out of genjutsu, however, the one time he tried to do so, it was up against Itachi, who is a top tier genjutsu user. I think a 3/5 is a fair, especially now he's gotten full control of his chakra.
Also, given Naruto's feats, I think a 5/5 out of 5/5 score is valid for his hand seals.
My new stats for Naruto
Ninjutsu: 4 > 5
Taijutsu: 3.5 > 5
Genjutsu: 2 > 3
Intelligence: 3 > 3.5
Strength: 3.5 > 5
Speed: 3.5 > 5
Stamina: 5
Hand seals: 1.5 > 5
Total: 26 > 37
This puts the new deadlock members all 37, which I think is a decent estimate.
Sasuke has kept up with the likes of A, Kabuto, Obito, Madara and Naruto in physical confrontations. I think the 5/5 is well warranted.
Ninjutsu: 3 > 5
Taijutsu: 3 > 5
Genjutsu: 3.5 > 3.5
Intelligence: 4 > 5
Strength: 3 > 5
Speed: 3 > 4
Stamina: 4 > 4.5
Hand seals: 4 > 5
Tota: 26 > 37
That puts her 2 points above Tsunade.
After checking out a bunch of stats from other characters that have never been seen using genjutsu or are even really the type to but have broken out of them or are presumably capable of doing so have 3/5. Naruto has been taught to break out of genjutsu, however, the one time he tried to do so, it was up against Itachi, who is a top tier genjutsu user. I think a 3/5 is a fair, especially now he's gotten full control of his chakra.
Also, given Naruto's feats, I think a 5/5 out of 5/5 score is valid for his hand seals.
My new stats for Naruto
Ninjutsu: 4 > 5
Taijutsu: 3.5 > 5
Genjutsu: 2 > 3
Intelligence: 3 > 3.5
Strength: 3.5 > 5
Speed: 3.5 > 5
Stamina: 5
Hand seals: 1.5 > 5
Total: 26 > 37
This puts the new deadlock members all 37, which I think is a decent estimate.
Sasuke has kept up with the likes of A, Kabuto, Obito, Madara and Naruto in physical confrontations. I think the 5/5 is well warranted.
Winterfang
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Frog Katas isn't just raw power. Is a taijutsu battle style that takes perfect advantage of Sage's Mode increases sense and power.
Is kind of a dodge and strike type of taijutsu.
Here's a video of the fight style in action in a different battle- Hit pause after 17 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzCUrrWvwMs
You are severely underestimating Naruto's taijutsu.
I don't think they do on account of Naruto and his jinchūriki modes. I also think the stats might reflect on the characters individually, rather than being part of a universal gauge.
TheRealTalker
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I just don't think it is a perfect 5 like some people said
your 3.5 sounds plausible
Also I think Sakura's Strength should be higher in your stats
okay I was wrong in saying it is strength but I still stand that other focused Taijustsu styles like the gentle fists and the gates are better in skill
also that vid gave me a headache with all the flashing amv in the end ;P
It was 3.5 before. While I don't find 5 to be entirely believable either, after learning Kawzu Kumite and acquiring all that experience, I wouldn't expect it to stay at 3.5.
TheRealTalker
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Winterfang
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I did had a pause warning. I just couldn't find a gif sorry.
Before.
3rd Data Book covered Part 2 up 'til the Chapter in which Sasuke awakened his Mangekyō Sharingan402.
TheRealTalker
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yeah this is sadly one of the problems with such books early on
seeing as things get topped later in the series which would likely either wonk the rankings or just make a majority of people up there in the perfect 5 score where we wouldn't know how they'd compare to other perfect 5s
TheRealTalker
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all of which are not taijutsu Specialist
granted Naruto knows how to fight
granted Naruto knows how to fight
Taijutsu may not have been Itachi's specialty, but he was rated 5 in that area right along with his Ninjutsu and Genjutsu. Dude had no weak areas besides his stamina, and that could have only been as low as it was due to the illness he supposedly had.
That said, I don't know what to expect from Nagato's Taijutsu abilities, particularly those used through a puppet of his. And Naruto was using Kyūbi Chakra Mode while doing little more than defending as he was speaking to Itachi, manipulated and possibly hindered in a number of ways by Kabuto's control over him, about Sasuke and the Uchiha clan.
Yeah, the chakra itself was made from all that malevolence, but the Biju were made through Rikudo Sennin's Banbutsusozo with the most benevolent of intentions.
I wish they actually had been created from nothing more than humanity's malice. That may have been Kishimoto's intention before introducing all of this Rikudo stuff.
Neither are
Hiruzen (5)
Tsunade (5)
Jiraiya (4.5)
Kakashi (4.5)
Itachi (4.5)
Asuma (4.5)
The stats are inherently confusing because we don't know much about the scoring criteria. We don't know if it's reflective of the character's own potential or whether Kishi gauges them all by the same measure.
Naruto wasn't actually fighting seriously, he was speaking to Itachi. If he was serious, he would have run laps around Itachi.
-Pyromaniac-
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Everyone should be rated using the itachi scale. Aka everyone sucks.
TheRealTalker
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:/
Sooooooo confusing
Any way on another topic..... will we ever know what those temple/castle situated in every Kaguya dimension where for?
Sooooooo confusing
Any way on another topic..... will we ever know what those temple/castle situated in every Kaguya dimension where for?
The Silver
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alien recon stations
Unknown One
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Naruto should be decent in Taijutsu, he just went hand to hand with Sharingan Sasuke.
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