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Naruto Manga Thread (OT) - The End is here

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Frog-fu

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Madara would have waxed Gai if he was actually serious, but he wasn't. He was goading Gai constantly throughout that fight to show him more and more. He was tripping on his own god complex and wanted to test his limits, how much he could take.

Naruto would have been a match for him if he went all out and would probably beat him. I'm not so sure about Sasuke, but one can assume he'd stand a decent chance.
 
SolVanderlyn

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Gai and Lee's fights are less about who wins and more about being as flat-out awesome as possible.

Lee vs. Gaara. Who do you remember being the star of that fight? It wasn't Gaara. Even if he did win. Same with Kimimaro.

I do think Gai gave Madara a run for his money though. If Dai could beat all seven swordsman as a no-talent genin then the eight gates are serious business. And Gai was a top level shinobi to begin with. (Obviously below kage level, but still very skilled)
 
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Pegosaurus

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Frog-fu said:
Madara would have waxed Gai if he was actually serious, but he wasn't. He was goading Gai constantly throughout that fight to show him more and more. He was tripping on his own god complex and wanted to test his limits, how much he could take.

Naruto would have been a match for him if he went all out and would probably beat him. I'm not so sure about Sasuke, but one can assume he'd stand a decent chance.
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i think that madara actually recognized gai's strength

his attacks were brutal and did lots of damage
 
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Envelope

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SolVanderlyn said:
Gai and Lee's fights are less about who wins and more about being as flat-out awesome as possible.

Lee vs. Gaara. Who do you remember being the star of that fight? It wasn't Gaara. Even if he did win. Same with Kimimaro.

I do think Gai gave Madara a run for his money though. If Dai could beat all seven swordsman as a no-talent genin then the eight gates are serious business. And Gai was a top level shinobi to begin with. (Obviously below kage level, but still very skilled)
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Gai and Lee are the secret best characters of Naruto, everything they do is awesome
 
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Psycho_Mantis

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Frog-fu said:
Madara would have waxed Gai if he was actually serious, but he wasn't. He was goading Gai constantly throughout that fight to show him more and more. He was tripping on his own god complex and wanted to test his limits, how much he could take.

Naruto would have been a match for him if he went all out and would probably beat him. I'm not so sure about Sasuke, but one can assume he'd stand a decent chance.
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lol Naruto would not have stood a chance with Madara alone. Niether would of Sasuke.

They won because they teamed up.

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Gai and Lee are the secret best characters of Naruto, everything they do is awesome
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Gai and Lee have the best fighting style in Naruto. Taijutsu to the max.
 
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The Silver

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I really do think it's likely that a big reason for Kaguya coming out of nowhere is because Kishi made Madara too damn strong and needed to get rid of him.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

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rrc1594 said:
1v1 Madara would wipe the floor with who ever it is.
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Exactly.

Speaking of OP, wouldn't want to mess with this family:

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I'm still curious if Bolt has the nine tails in him and if he possesses the byakugan.
 
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Frog-fu

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Pegosaurus said:
i think that madara actually recognized gai's strength

his attacks were brutal and did lots of damage
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Madara acknowledged Gai as the strongest taijutsu user he has ever encountered, but if you read back over the fight he kept goading Gai to show him more and he was laughing when he wasn't reacting in shock.

Psycho_Mantis said:
lol Naruto would not have stood a chance with Madara alone. Niether would of Sasuke.

They won because they teamed up.
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Kaguya was much stronger than Madara and Naruto was more than holding his own against her.

Without chakra exhaustion nerf and going all out, he would've been able to put down Madara. It'd be extremely difficult, but doable.
 
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Pein

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Madara's lucky gai didn't kill him, if he wasn't shook by gai he wouldn't have tried to run and block the evening elephant. He really didn't wan't his body caved in by the night gai either.
 
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Frog-fu

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This is not a man fearing for his life. Madara was having a ball testing his limits.
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He wanted more and more. In the end, he was still laughing after Gai was all burnt out (no pun intended).

Gai was nothing but a glorified stopgap to keep Mads busy.
 
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Winterfang

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Frog-fu said:
This is not a man fearing for his life. Madara was having a ball testing his limits.
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He wanted more and more. In the end, he was still laughing after Gai was all burnt out (no pun intended).

Gai was nothing but a glorified stopgap to keep Mads busy.
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Gai was just used to show that Madara could be defeated. Before the Ashura/Indra stuff it was impossible for use to imagine Madara losing since he was 3 tiers above anyone else.
 
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Sai

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I also agree that Madara was just enjoying himself against Guy.

Plus, Guy wouldn't have been able to get as far as he did without the help of Kakashi, Minato, Lee, and Gaara; their efforts opened up a hole in Madara's defense of Gudōdama, and took most of what he had away from him. If it wasn't for that, Guy would have been obliterated before he even had the chance to use Night Guy.

That said, I wish Kishimoto had Guy go against Madara before he became the Jūbi's Jinchūriki. Even if Madara was just enjoying himself, even if it was a self-sacrificing maneuver, having Guy go that far—touching the boundaries of what would essentially be the Narutoverse's equivalent to "godhood" with a technique that all humans have the capacity to learn—served to heavily dampen the hype for Rikudō Sennin's power that had been built up until Obito's defeat.

... Also somewhat vindicated all the years of insta-win claims regarding Lee, and Guy with the Hachimon, which bothered me a bit. :p

Anyways, watching Guy dismantling Madara's Kanzentai Susanoō would have been much more enjoyable. Even then, Madara was an entity whose power stood above the Gokage; with Hachimon's complete release providing the power that also exceeds that, it would've been a better match-up.

Winterfang said:
I can't see Naruto putting the ninetails inside his own son.
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Me neither. Not under these peaceful circumstances, anyways. I don't think he'd have to worry about them being ostracized due to his own efforts as the Kyūbi Jinchūriki, and the acceptance he gained from his peers as one. Plus, unlike him, they'd still have family to look out for them.

I could see him passing Kurama onto Bolt or Himawawri to maintain the status quo regarding the Bijū's meeting place, and they'd be the two best candidates due to them being Naruto's progeny, and inheriting the Uzumaki's strong chakra.

But, Naruto's still pretty young and will likely continue to live a long, prosperous life so long as this peaceful era continues. If not his kids, maybe his grandchildren, once he's reached a fine old age.
 
OmegaDL50

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Fj0823 said:
Everyone is wasted with that kind of teacher, I mean what does she even do? Fuck Asuma?
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It's odd that as a Sensei, Kurenai was supposed be the villages premier Genjutsu specialist, and yet none of the members of her team specialized in this, so exactly what did she offer to pass down to her students other then the concept of team work?

Shino had his own Aburame clan bug techniques so Kurenai couldn't teach him how to use this other then people in his clan, same applies to Kiba which fighting style seems to be an antithesis to the Genjutsu user, with him being mainly strong taijutsu in tandem with his Inuzuka dog attacks, and Hinata being a Hyuga with likely the best chakra control on her team, she probably could have taken best advantage of what Kurenai had to offer, and yet based on what we've seen from Hinata's own skill set, this doesn't seem to be the case at all.

Hell I could see the practicality of Hinata of putting opponents in a Genjutsu daze to dull their senses, and then go in and shut their chakra network down with a few well placed Jyuken strikes.

It's kind of wasted potential, when you think about it.
 
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Sai

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It's not like Asuma had much to offer his students either, with their specialized Hiden Ninjutsu. Kakashi and Guy were the only Jōnin instructors who possessed abilities that complimented those of their students, and directly passed on their signature techniques to.

And, unsurprisingly, that was a large part of the reason they held such a tight reign on their positions as the two strongest teams.
 
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Joni

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The Jounin Teachers are there to learn their students essential stuff like teamwork and how to work as a ninja. They will never be able to learn someone clan techniques. It is why Gai and Kakashi made such an impact on Rock Lee and Sasuke. They taught them their 'clan' techniques. Neji didn't learn anything special from Gai, neither did TenTen. They couldn't open the gates and we never saw what else they learned. Kakashi did the same. He gave Sasuke the best lessons, what did Sakura and Naruto learn? They learned teamwork, they learned walking on trees and Naruto learned what his affinity was.
 
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DJwest said:
I'm sorry but no member of the Gokage could have fought like Gai did against Madara. He is very much Kage level imo.
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By Kakashi's own admission, Gai was on par with him. He even admitted Gai with the Evening Elephant could have easily defeated him, despite the move being a one-hit-kill final gambit. (I'll need to refer to a specific Manga chapter to provide confirmation for this)

Kakashi admitting Gai's fairly equal skill level with his own and becoming Hokage himself, kind of paints a clear picture what level Gai was at.

Putting things into even more perspective, Madara single handedly took down the Gokage (Tsunade, Onoki, Gaara, Terumi, and Ai) all at the same time and barely received a scratch.

Yet Gai did bone shattering damage unto Madara, damage Madara recovered from, but still damage nonetheless.

I don't think we need to question Gai's skill level.
 
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Sai

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Er... Basing Guy's "level" on techniques that leave him incapacitated at best immediately after, just doesn't seem right... :p

Kakashi did indeed say that Guy surpassed him, but that was when he released all of the Hachimon.

Setsuna said:
Whats stopping gai from performing the 8th gate with a shadow clone
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The amount of chakra? Wish we could have seen a Kage Bunshin using any of the Hachimon; it should be possible since it creates a perfect, tangible copy of the user.
 
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Joni

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We always knew by activating the gates someone can achieve a power greater than that of the kages. He needed to open all eight to use Evening Elephant and Night Guy, so yes, it can kill Kakashi. It could kill any kage.

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I am also curious about Naruto's skill level post-war future when he is Hokage.

I mean when he was 17 he was an absolute monster being able to take down Kaguya with Sasuke's help.

What the hell is he like in his 30's, sure he'd probably settle down somewhat, but just imagine the techniques he perfected and possibly learned in the interim when he could chill raising a family and becoming Hokage.

It makes you wonder.
 
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Joni

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OmegaDL50 said:
I am also curious about Naruto's skill level post-war future when he is Hokage.

I mean when he was 17 he was an absolute monster being able to take down Kaguya with Sasuke's help.

What the hell is he like in his 30's, sure he'd probably settle down somewhat, but just imagine the techniques he perfected and possibly learned in the interim when he could chill raising a family and becoming Hokage.

It makes you wonder.
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It is why there is peace. Naruto threatened to visit the first guy to wage war.
 
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Sai

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Both Naruto and Sasuke should be on a practically untouchable plataeu right now.

Well, until Lee decides to kill himself... :p
 
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Sai

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Who, besides Naruto, do you think could possibly tango with Sasuke's Kanzentai Susanoō, and the mastered Rikudō no Jutsu of his Rinnegan?

Naruto was, and will likely remain comfortably above Sasuke. But, Sasuke shouldn't be trailing too far behind due to the ridiculous nature of his dōryoku.
 
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TacticalFox88

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Sai said:
Who, besides Naruto, do you think could possibly tango with Sasuke's Kanzentai Susanoō, and the mastered Rikudō no Jutsu of his Rinnegan?

Naruto was, and will likely remain comfortably above Sasuke. But, Sasuke shouldn't be trailing too far behind due to the ridiculous nature of his dōryoku.
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No one.

It's not even up for debate, unless you want to bring the Sage or Kaguya into the conversation.
 
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Heroman

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Sai said:
Who, besides Naruto, do you think could possibly tango with Sasuke's Kanzentai Susanoō, and the mastered Rikudō no Jutsu of his Rinnegan?

Naruto was, and will likely remain comfortably above Sasuke. But, Sasuke shouldn't be trailing too far behind due to the ridiculous nature of his dōryoku.
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Kages could and some ninjas, During war he was weak as fuck and even after he got his power up he still weak.
 
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Sai

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C'mon, guy. The same Kage that cowered before Madara's Kanzentai Susanoō? Sasuke only appeared "weak" when he was compared to Naruto and Kaguya, when he could hardly do anything but cast Genjutsu and Amenotejikara through his Rinnegan.

What happened after he became even a little more comfortable with his Rinnegan? Used Chibaku Tensei on a scale that far eclipsed what we saw from Nagato, and with much more leisure. Used that technique to handle the chakra of the Bijū he captured with such a degree of skill, that his ability to do so was being compared to Hagoromo's.

After all those years, he should have completely mastered his Rinnegan's Rikudō no Jutsu, and using Chidori and Enton through his Kanzentai Susanoō should be the least of what it's capable of at that point—not to mention the Bijū-rivaling, mountain-dicing power it possessed to begin with.

Like I said, unless somebody like Lee's 100% prepared to sacrifice themselves with the complete release of the Hachimon, nobody but Naruto should be able to pose much of a threat to Sasuke.
 
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Sai

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TacticalFox88 said:
It's amazing how powerful I thought Juubito was.

Now he's a fucking scrub.

:lol
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Compared to who? Kaguya? Hagoromo? Madara? Naruto? Sasuke?

Even if he was the weakest, Obito still had the best showing as a Jūbi Jinchūriki; he seemed to make the best use of his Gudōdama.
 
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The Leviathan

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Sai said:
Compared to who? Kaguya? Hagoromo? Madara? Naruto? Sasuke?

Even if he was the weakest, Obito still had the best showing as a Jūbi Jinchūriki; he seemed to make the best use of his Gudōdama.
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You make a fair point,but Obito was defeated by words and literally stood there while his power was pulled out of him.

What the actually fuck man! That was weak sauce and he automatically went down on the great villain list for me. Now I know you could say Pein was defeated by words as well,but it wasn't the same as Obito. I mean who pulls off all these crimes and gruesome atrocities over those years to have a change of heart in the middle of war? LITERALLY just stood there with his thumb in his ass lol.
 
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Heroman

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The Leviathan said:
You make a fair point,but Obito was defeated by words and literally stood there while his power was pulled out of him.

What the actually fuck man! That was weak sauce and he automatically went down on the great villain list for me. Now I know you could say Pein was defeated by words as well,but it wasn't the same as Obito. I mean who pulls off all these crimes and gruesome atrocities over those years to have a change of heart in the middle of war? LITERALLY just stood there with his thumb in his ass lol.
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This Obito we are talking about a man who cause a ninja war because of some crush he had when he was young died.
 
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360pages

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To be fair obito's best gimmick before he got the ten-tails was impressive. However once he lost that advantage he was below Kakashi.
 
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